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Old December 1st, 2015, 11:31 AM   #1
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Whiteleys £1bn redevelopment | Bayswater | Demo


Whiteleys Redevelopment
Bayswater
W2


Official website: http://whiteleysdevelopment.co.uk/

Planning application: Westminster 15/10072/FULL



Development Facts

Developer: Warrior Group | Meyer Bergman

Architect: Foster + Partners

Total floorspace: 79,334m²

Residential units: 103



















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Old December 1st, 2015, 12:19 PM   #2
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Really got my fingers crossed that they get this right, shopping in London is actually pretty fantastic and this needs to be a leader in the high end shopping sector. Its got the bones for a truly upmarket experience, lets hope they spend the money and do it justice.
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Old December 1st, 2015, 01:41 PM   #3
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Love it! Looks like they will make the front look better and change the ugly backside to look great also.
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are there any pictures of the current site available?
btw this project looks really promising, I hope it gets a thumbs up...
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Old December 1st, 2015, 03:30 PM   #5
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are there any pictures of the current site available?
btw this project looks really promising, I hope it gets a thumbs up...
You can browse photos of Whiteleys here.
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Old December 1st, 2015, 04:05 PM   #6
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I feel old.

I remember being a little kid going to the original Whitleys, and I remember them converting into a mall - which felt disappointing from day 1. The character was ripped out enough it felt like why did they bother.

This feels like an improvement - both in terms of as a building and in terms of urban realm.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 10:23 PM   #8
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Queensway is shabby? What world is that writer living in?
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Queensway is a relatively shabby street. I lived there for a decade and only moved out last year. Many of the surrounding streets are very grand, and Bayswater is generally an expensive area, but the southern end of Queensway has quite a few tatty tourist souvenir shops, and the northern end has charity shops and pound shops. Whiteleys has faded hugely since Westfield opened. Part of the problem is the planners insistence on retail. Imo they should allow most if not all the shops on the street to convert to restaurant use, somewhat like Charlotte Street in Fitzrovia.
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Heritage bodies put boot into Foster's Whiteleys scheme
Bdonline.co.uk
24th March 2016

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Plan involves turning west London shopping centre into luxury flats

Heritage groups including Historic England, Save Britain’s Heritage and the Victorian Society are objecting to plans by Foster & Partners to turn the Whiteleys shopping centre in west London into block of luxury flats.

The scheme is due before planners at Westminster council on Tuesday with the council due to rule on whether Whiteleys can be demolished leaving only its stucco façades in Queensway and Porchester Gardens standing.

Historic England has lodged an objection to the plan, particularly the loss of the building’s landmark domes while the Victorian Society has also objected, citing “unjustified harm” to the building, which dates from 1863.
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I like the design, I am also not keen on London being turned into a giant open air museum- especially for fairly average buildings such as what is on this site currently.
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I am quite amazed the building was built in 1863, I'm no architectural historian but would have thought it would haven been much later, closer to edwardian times
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Can't comment too much on th architectural plans as I haven't seen the detail but this scheme is for yet more luxury flats - presumably for foreign buyers.

Why do we let developers do this? Who does it help? I'd prefer either a development with at least some affordable component or for Whiteleys to remain a place which Londoners can use as an amenity (shopping etc) - or even offices which can contribute to society through job creation.
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The proposed scheme includes retail and restaurant space.
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Can't comment too much on th architectural plans as I haven't seen the detail but this scheme is for yet more luxury flats - presumably for foreign buyers.

Why do we let developers do this? Who does it help? I'd prefer either a development with at least some affordable component or for Whiteleys to remain a place which Londoners can use as an amenity (shopping etc) - or even offices which can contribute to society through job creation.
"Luxury" is just a word developers put in front of flats to try and disguise the fact they are just flats- it doesn't really mean anything. As for who it helps, everybody if we build enough, every new apartment adds to supply. Contrary to Guardian propaganda stories London actually has incredibly low housing vacancy rates- just 1.7% of total housing stock.
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"Luxury" is just a word developers put in front of flats to try and disguise the fact they are just flats- it doesn't really mean anything. As for who it helps, everybody if we build enough, every new apartment adds to supply. Contrary to Guardian propaganda stories London actually has incredibly low housing vacancy rates- just 1.7% of total housing stock.
in london, it means they are going to be extremely expensive.
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in london, it means they are going to be extremely expensive.
Although the term "Luxury Flats" is increasingly been thrown around by left wing types , just like those on the right use the term "immigration". Nothing more than Dog whistle politics.
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I am quite amazed the building was built in 1863, I'm no architectural historian but would have thought it would haven been much later, closer to edwardian times
The current building is Edwardian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteleys

I remember the first renovation of this department store - well intentioned and expensive, but unsuccessful as the ground floor routes within the building did not lead anywhere. This proposal, at least superficially, appears better considered. The facades and street presence are great.
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in london, it means they are going to be extremely expensive.
They ar only expensive because their aren't enough of them, in part because of endless campaigns against development.
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They ar only expensive because their aren't enough of them, in part because of endless campaigns against development.
These are developers who intend to developer these for luxury flats. You would need to build thousands of homes cheaply very quickly to achieve what you would like to happen.
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