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Old June 2nd, 2018, 02:24 AM   #21
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Old June 2nd, 2018, 09:31 AM   #22
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Ati Eastern bypass? Dualling?
I suspect the Eastern Bypass they are referring to here is not the one we all know. They may be referring to Easter Bypass Slip Road, off Airport North (I saw works on this section recently)
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Old June 2nd, 2018, 09:50 AM   #23
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Several things that encourage me about this regeneration project:

1. The president is communicating that he is taking this seriously (considering we are not approaching an election).

2. For the first time (as far as I know), someone has specifically mentioned the middle class. I guess we are beginning to matter.

3. Giving these small roads to the three big Chinese companies in Kenya helps with speed and quality. More importantly though, it sends a message to our local contractors. (I imagine some powerful people tried to push back but got the message that someone more powerful is getting impatient with their shoddy performance).

By the way, Jogoo rd is also being repaired and some sections being re-carpeted, plus beautification.
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Old June 4th, 2018, 08:28 AM   #24
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3. Make/enact and pass a Nairobi county By-law (or national government law) that allows private entities (corporations, individuals, property owners, schools, NGOs) to adopt and fix entire streets around their premises or even beyond instead of waiting decades for the county, KURA and even Kenha to do the job. Allowing them to rename the streets after themselves - complete with nice street signs - will be an adequate incentive for these groups; for marketing (or ego) purposes. Corporates would really love this in terms of their CSR and hundreds if not thousands of small feeder roads and even larger roads will be tarmacked/cabrod in no time.
I have often wondered why private companies aren't allowed to do this? The govt is usually broke or dysfunctional to undertake such repairs so they should allow private companies to chip in as long as quality is maintained. Hii serikali yetu jameni lol! Its like that crazy ex who treats you like crap but won't let you go date someone else!
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Old June 4th, 2018, 08:55 AM   #25
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I know upperhill, there's a company now doing adopt a trashcan. It will be emptying trashcans multiple times a day in a street that you sponsor. That's a start.
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Old June 4th, 2018, 02:33 PM   #26
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I know upperhill, there's a company now doing adopt a trashcan. It will be emptying trashcans multiple times a day in a street that you sponsor. That's a start.
Im thinking someone should start adopt a street. We can have them use street furniture for corporate adverts as they maintain road surfaces and pavements. Amost every road in the major 3 CBDs has huge companies and multinationals that can pay for street level rejuvenation if coordinated well.

That will leave estate roads and other minor roads to KULA and county government.
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Old June 12th, 2018, 01:58 PM   #27
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Ongoing road rehabilitation projects in Eastlands














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Nairobi City County Government engineers in conjunction with the Nairobi regeneration team led by engineers from Kenya Urban Roads Authority (KURA) are currently rehabilitating Moi Drive in Umoja estate, Embakasi West Constituency.

The 4km road will be recarpeted and once complete the road will have a pedestrian footpath and a redesigned drainage system.
This regeneration is by KURA. The quality is wanting, Sidewalks don't seem to have even come up in the discussion. And I thought Eastlands had a ton of people on foot!! Again, what do I know!
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Old June 12th, 2018, 05:08 PM   #28
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What kills most roads in Nairobi and in Kenya in general is poor drainage. If they could get the forceful storm water channeled the right way to the right places our roads and paths would last way longer than they currently do.
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Old June 12th, 2018, 08:10 PM   #29
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Surely why can’t they build it like this? This is a road being constructed in a township in SA and you can see the level of skill and perfection. Even though the road is going through a township quality will be superb and the road will last several seasons.
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Old June 12th, 2018, 09:10 PM   #30
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For a minute I thought that was Nairobi. I was just beginning to say 'halleluja....", then my eyes glanced at your comments
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Old June 12th, 2018, 09:56 PM   #31
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New Wakulima Market which is under construction along Kangundo road. Once complete, the New Wakulima Market will host more than 3,000 hawkers who will be relocated from Nairobiís CBD and other markets














Not Exactly/directly part of Regeneration but wasn't sure where to post it. Source
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Old June 13th, 2018, 10:10 AM   #32
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Comparing the pics in post #27 and #29. Sad. Just Sad.

I am willing to bet that inclusive of the cabro side walks, the south african cost per km could be lower than kura's.
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Old June 13th, 2018, 12:23 PM   #33
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You can see surely that we bring mediocrity on ourselves. What exactly is stopping the roads contractors from building proper side walks when building the main road? They just want us to walk on mud and get dirty. We must refuse this crazy ideology being forced on us by the govt.
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Old June 13th, 2018, 01:36 PM   #34
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From Sonko's post, I saw them I think it was on Lumumba Drive go from this here






To this here in a couple of days










Wish they had done this first to stabalize the base like the Chinese are doing on another Road in Eastlands. To a layman like me looks like the second method will last a little bit longer than just masking the potholes like they did above on Lumumba Drive








Also check foot traffic on Lumumba. People are walking on the road because the sidewalk has been chocked by vendors. Unless they are waiting for Wakulima Market, would have been a perfect time to clear the sidewalk
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Old June 13th, 2018, 03:03 PM   #35
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This is exactly the problem of electing a populist.Sonko is preocupied with delivering new roads in 2 days to please the masses instead of doing these roads properly. We are now sacrificing the longterm with our shorterm craze and is the reason why we dont make significant progress as a nation despite spending a tonne of cash..Doesnt take a genius to figure that most of these roads are just receiving cosmetic fixes. How can one just pour biutimen on a and call it a day? Total waste of cash
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Old June 13th, 2018, 06:28 PM   #36
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But who can monitor these guys to ensure they do the right thing, supervising engineers are just there in pursuit of their selfish interest. There is no one to protect wananchi from all these shoddy work
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You can see surely that we bring mediocrity on ourselves. What exactly is stopping the roads contractors from building proper side walks when building the main road? They just want us to walk on mud and get dirty. We must refuse this crazy ideology being forced on us by the govt.
Until Eastlands and other areas of Nairobi have proper drainage systems installed, one cannot place a sidewalk with curb inlets unless your planning on digging up the sidewalks again to integrate the residential drainage with that flowing under the road.

Those flats in those areas were built without such infrastructure in consideration.

Those houses in SA are built by the government. They are Extremely basic and by no means a model that GoK should pursue, yet they are integrated into the water system, hence the sidewalks.
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Old June 13th, 2018, 08:57 PM   #38
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[QUOTE=Foxbat101;149389719]Until Eastlands and other areas of Nairobi have proper drainage systems installed, one cannot place a sidewalk with curb inlets unless your planning on digging up the sidewalks again to integrate the residential drainage with that flowing under the road.

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Until Eastlands and other areas of Nairobi have proper drainage systems installed, one cannot place a sidewalk with curb inlets unless your planning on digging up the sidewalks again to integrate the residential drainage with that flowing under the road.

Those flats in those areas were built without such infrastructure in consideration.

Those houses in SA are built by the government. They are Extremely basic and by no means a model that GoK should pursue, yet they are integrated into the water system, hence the sidewalks.


Wee wacha za ovyo bana!! Even with those who build houses in areas with no electricity coverage plan ahead and put in the wiring for the day they finally get connected. In this case, put in cabro pavements and drainage along them and work on proving solution to the end point of said drainage. Now the county government and KURA work so hard on the bitumen part and neglect the other portions only to come back to finish up later? Do it right the first time. No need in providing two tenders for the same works.
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Old June 20th, 2018, 11:29 AM   #40
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You can see surely that we bring mediocrity on ourselves. What exactly is stopping the roads contractors from building proper side walks when building the main road? They just want us to walk on mud and get dirty. We must refuse this crazy ideology being forced on us by the govt.
The people who allocate the budgets, have cars. Why would they care about sidewalks?
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