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Old January 17th, 2007, 11:31 AM   #121
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Looks like plans are well under way for an "iconic office building" as revealed in The Birmingham Post this morning.
What does that say then?
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Not a lot unfortunately.

However, with just about everyone having an opinion on this site (as one of the most sensitive in the city) I can't imagine that BL will propose something crap.

It will be interesting to see what comes of it...
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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:16 PM   #123
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this will have to be one of the highest quality office blocks in the city, even better than the one next to it, which is an excellent example of good design imo!
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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:36 PM   #124
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Council House, 125 Colmore Row & NatWest Tower.

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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:43 PM   #125
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I can remember being in a conversation with the head of planning for the city centre when Labour were in council and he really slated Nat West Tower, refering to it as a big brown ugly building and on ethat should go, at the time I dissagreed but after a long rethink, it adds little to the skyline and is unatractive from street level so I am looking forward to this going!!! providing the new building looks like the rendering, this part of the city and on to Colmore Row edging out towards the Jewellery Quarter has the highest quality of regeneration and NEW architecture in the city and up there with the best in Britain IMO.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:47 PM   #126
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well EK we might as well forget the first rendering for the site, that has long gone!
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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:52 PM   #127
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I think a predominantly glass & steel structure for this site is wrong, & think a building of stone / sandstone would be more in keeping with the site. As for the height of a building to replace the NatWest Tower, I'm not sure. I'd like to see a computerised image from Victoria Square showing a 30 storey office building.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 02:36 PM   #128
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well EK we might as well forget the first rendering for the site, that has long gone!
shame... not sure a tall building here is right location? Paradise area maybe but not here IMO
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Old January 17th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #129
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I kind of agree, but also think "well, Natwest was there so why not another"?

For the £25m they've paid, plus probably another £50m to rebuild it, it is likely to be big and top notch!
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Old January 17th, 2007, 03:55 PM   #130
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Well HCT cost £50 million but the quality wasn't too brilliant.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 05:00 PM   #131
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I kind of agree, but also think "well, Natwest was there so why not another"?

For the £25m they've paid, plus probably another £50m to rebuild it, it is likely to be big and top notch!
Well if it is going to be big, what about some kind of nod to Neo Gothic Brum encompassed in the design? I wouldn't care about the height.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 05:54 PM   #132
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im not to piccy about height as long as its over around 40/50m. also, as long as it isnt made from transparent glass to give that see through image, (not that i dont like it, its just simply the wrong place) im not too fussed either.
so as some1 said earlier, a stone kind of look such as the one next door but with an origional design and a bit more height.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 06:08 PM   #133
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Well if it is going to be big, what about some kind of nod to Neo Gothic Brum encompassed in the design? I wouldn't care about the height.
That's getting my juices flowing (as it were!).

I think it is going to have to have a tower to be viable, but:

- a street-level section, maybe 5 storeys high, could be incorporated, with the tower stepped back.

- lots of points/triangles (I am thinking along the lines of Hudson Bay at the Central TV studios)

- detailed/layered facades.

Maybe British Land are also after the TSB building behind it? They could do something a bit mroe substantial and keep the tower away from Colmore Row then.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 06:37 PM   #134
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I am used to post on the London forum. I do not believe I ever post on the Birmingham forum.

Today British Land (Leadenhall Building: 224m; Willis Building: 125m, Broadgate Tower: 165m) has announced what I believe is the most fantastic news ever for Birmingham skyscrapers enthusiasts. It also made the headline of Property Week.

British Land has today announced the decision to build an iconic skyscraper in this prime location of Birmingham. Height is unknown.
Expect something tall and top quality.

Here is the full story:http://www.britishland.com/pressrelease170107.htm

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Prime Birmingham City Office Development Secured
17/01/2007


British Land is expanding its provincial development portfolio with the addition of the former Nat West building in Colmore Row, Birmingham.

This prime city office site, located in the heart of Birmingham, was sold with vacant possession by Omega Land for £25 million.

British Land has appointed the architects Hamiltons to work with it to design a new high quality signature office building on what is widely believed to be the best office development site in central Birmingham.

Robert Samuel, Director of British Land Developments, said: “We have an established portfolio of development sites in the Midlands including Blythe Valley Business Park, Solihull and New Century Park, Coventry. We are pleased to have acquired this prime City centre site and are looking forward to working with Birmingham City Council and the local community to develop an iconic and attractive addition to Birmingham’s office skyline.”

Councillor Ken Hardeman, Cabinet Member for Regeneration, Birmingham City Council, said: "Whatever form it takes, I am sure that the scheme will be of the highest quality to reflect our aspirations for this prominent site in the heart of our civic and commercial area. I look forward to working with British Land to deliver a landmark scheme which will enhance Birmingham's reputation as a global city."

Enjoy. Birmingham's future is bright.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 07:30 PM   #135
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Enjoy. Birmingham's future is bright.
Thanks for the post, it should be top quality

I'll be sad to see the Natwest tower go, yes it's ugly, yes the floorplates are too small, yes it's been empty for a while, yes the street level is poor, but it is an iconic shape. Still, it's progress innit?
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Uh oh. What words did I just see in the news article: landmark, iconic. Oh we're doomed !


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this does sound very promising and i think the constant reference to "skyline" is something we should be aware of!

i wait with baited breathe!
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Old January 17th, 2007, 07:58 PM   #138
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No No No, this is not the place for an iconic tower. It needs to be something thats nice enough when viewed on its own but doesn't steal focus from the historic architecture when seen from those areas.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #139
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But just imagine if they cleaned it, or even painted it the same cream colour as the the two Council House, that new one
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No No No, this is not the place for an iconic tower. It needs to be something thats nice enough when viewed on its own but doesn't steal focus from the historic architecture when seen from those areas.
yes, but can you not see that through smart design, you can have both... the great thing od stepping building back from the street front... similar to it now.... there is not reason why you cant have a nice 5 storey podium that fits in with the surrounding, and then step it back, and have a great glass, and mixed stone tower rising another 20/30 storeys!
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