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Old January 20th, 2006, 08:32 PM   #121
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It will be only 10m on alpha - But built on much higher ground. And will appear roughly the same height as HCT from St.andrews
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Old January 21st, 2006, 11:37 AM   #122
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Hands up - I like

It will make a great filler in the skyline for when our larger proposals finally arrive
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Old January 21st, 2006, 11:55 AM   #123
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whoops. I meant the rotunda. The new one's about the same height as alpha

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Old January 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM   #124
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Would love opinions on which shops will populate the Galleries ? I'm guessing for a scheme of this size to be a success it will need at least 1 major department store plus a number of other high st names. I'm trying to hink of high st names that aren't already represented elsewhere in the city and I'm struggling.

In terms of dept stores the only 2 I can think of are John Lewis and Harvey Nicks anyone have any thoughts ?
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 06:39 PM   #125
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We already have Harvy Nicks!
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 06:46 PM   #126
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hammer, we already have a harvy nicks and as the report states there will be one dpartments store....yes prob john lewis, last major chain not in the city...
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 07:02 PM   #127
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The Harvey Nicks we have isn't a department store, it's classified as a 'boutique outlet' whatever one of those is.
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 07:13 PM   #128
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Harrods??

Macys??

Poundland Megastore??

The possibilities are endless...
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 07:19 PM   #129
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well from what is seen of harvey nichs, thats a s good as it gets unles su live uin london lol

would b interesting to see whos interested in it........
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 07:57 PM   #130
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will this get approved though, thats the big question on everyones lips
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 07:57 PM   #131
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Yes hammerb24, our HN isn't one of their fully-fledged department stores with restaurant,(sadly), alike the ones in the capital, in Leeds and in M'cr for example. They were struggling with floor availability at the units at the front of the Mailbox, where they wanted their Birmingham store to be, and apparently agreed on the site on the left linking to further space opposite on the right, by way of a new covered walk-bridge linking the two, which was never part of the original design for the Mailbox frontage. There was some rumour ages back that if new space became available either below(ARmani store) or behind, then a HN restaurant might be added, together with extra selling space. I think this however might be less likely.
HN's , however, could set a new precedent in MG by having a second store in the city, perhaps, coupled with the obvious availability of lots more space.
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 08:10 PM   #132
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Harvey Nicks are already in the perfect position - Once Orion and HCT are liveable not to mention Orion 2, AC and The Cube the only thing I can see them doing is expanding within the Mailbox.

They've got potentially thousands of rich customers on thier doorstep

I think we shall see a big chain located here considering its proximity to Selfridges and the Bullring
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 10:14 AM   #133
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An interesting side effect on the CAA limit is that, no matter where towers are sited in the city centre (such as HCT and MG), if they build up to or close to the CAA limit, they will appear to reach the same level. If MG is built at the height mentioned, then from any angle it will appear nearly as tall as HCT (due to the topography). This, IMO, will add to the density of our skyline in a big way.

Back to the shops, well I have heard a vicious rumour that John Lewis are considering a store, and the shops that will be targetted are home & lifestyle rather than just fashion.

Some may remember a while back I did a lot of winking after the BBC report of city centre Ikeas, alas no-one put 2 and 2 together... This is just a bet though, not based on anything concrete.

My money is on stuff like: John Lewis, Habitat, Laura Ashley, Ikea Central, supermarket, ski/holiday shop - that kind of thing.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 10:55 AM   #134
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Harrods??
Macys??
Poundland Megastore??
The possibilities are endless...
Well we have Aston Uni, UCE and MBC close by ..... it's a big opportunity for Poundland!
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 10:59 AM   #135
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Back to the shops, well I have heard a vicious rumour that John Lewis are considering a store, and the shops that will be targetted are home & lifestyle rather than just fashion.
Please, please, please, please let it be more than just fashion. Birmingham is so overloaded with fashion stores at the moment it's starting to get embarrassing. We really need to branch out.
My girlfriend reckons a department store isn't a department store unless it has a furniture department - otherwise, I guess, it's just a 'boutique outlet'.
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Your girlfriend is very perceptive and dead right Steve. A Department Store should be akin to Grace Brothers - HoF have got it right and Selfridges and Debenhams are there more or less. Furniture, food, clothes, electrical and sundries - a real one-stop shop.

I think there is space for more designer shops in Brum there will be another 1 or 2 High St names that will want to come here, and we need more independent boutiques, specialist shops etc, but they will happen in the fullness of time. We need to offer the full range and lifestyle and leisure are what we are missing most.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 12:26 PM   #137
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Would love opinions on which shops will populate the Galleries ? I'm guessing for a scheme of this size to be a success it will need at least 1 major department store plus a number of other high st names. I'm trying to hink of high st names that aren't already represented elsewhere in the city and I'm struggling.

In terms of dept stores the only 2 I can think of are John Lewis and Harvey Nicks anyone have any thoughts ?
Not a deparment store I know, but I'd be suprised if WHSmith don't move out of their spot in the big top. I used to work there, and there is tons of space in there which WHS is paying rent for, but doesn't use. The shopfloor, warehouse, offices and stuff literally take up about half of the space they occupy. They looked at BullRing the rent was too expensive.
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the only thing about whsmiths is that 3 years ago they totally refurbished the place so i think they will be staying put for a while yet.

in terms of shops, i truly hope that there is not going to be yet another supermarket here...ther is due to be one in city park gate and there is already a tescos across the street. living in newcastle where there is now food shops in the city centre, i appreciate the need to food shops being right at the heart fo the city but i cant hlp but be a little dissapointed every time tesco takes all the prime slots in the city.

however, bio makes a good point

...look at our skyline and see the impact HCT has on our skyline......MG will have the exact same impact.....give and take on perspective!
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An interesting side effect on the CAA limit is that, no matter where towers are sited in the city centre (such as HCT and MG), if they build up to or close to the CAA limit, they will appear to reach the same level. If MG is built at the height mentioned, then from any angle it will appear nearly as tall as HCT (due to the topography). This, IMO, will add to the density of our skyline in a big way.
The down side is that the skyline itself will look flat - all the buildings will rise to a set level. While this may aid density it will appear too uniform with no pinancles. A good skyline generally has a dense cluster with a few peaks rising above. We'll be lucky to get those peaks given the timidity displayed in most Brum proposals. Ultimately the ruling will hinder rather than enhance what we'll get...
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 03:15 PM   #140
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umm not true AC and BST will be our pinnacles, were not gonna have a skyline over night

Regarding the shops i rekon it'll be john lewis and ikea has ikea are now gonna concentrate on stores in the city centre and whsmith will not be going anywhere there in the perfect location
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