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Old March 24th, 2006, 05:12 PM   #81
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I wonder why it wasn't mentioned at yesterday's presentation.Distancing?
From a clinical view it deflects wonderfully the rage created at Wednesday's NEC decision .Coincidence?
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Old March 24th, 2006, 05:13 PM   #82
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It really would be a bit Vegas-sy if we had a supercasino down the road from this blooming thing
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Old March 24th, 2006, 05:51 PM   #83
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well i dont know what you gyus have been looking at but this ste is not on low ground at all

yes, granted it is not on the ridge that the council are encouraging towers......but the height on the land on the plot is 108m AOD.......meaning anything over 134m tall (BST height) can be built unchecked by the CAA...however, this will probably cause eyebrows to be raised!
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Old March 24th, 2006, 06:09 PM   #84
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This is quite an exciting prospect for Brum,but why not make it taller? The top of the spire is at 175m I assume making the main structure approximately the same or smaller than the BT tower... not good enough ....and won't the caa stick the mutts in at some point, if this starts construction this year I will come to Brum and show my arse on top of the selfridges bridge!Probably end up another farce like the Arena Central.I want this to happen but have my doubts. BTW if the caa do stick their mutts in the developers my decide to build it in Manc and double the height
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Old March 24th, 2006, 06:51 PM   #85
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I have a horrible feeling that once these plans are submitted in May the CAA will stick the boot it with objections and bog the whole process down to a long crawl.

Its a shame someone doesn't shove the Pinnacle Tower up CAA's arse and tell 'em to feck off out of Dodge!
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Old March 24th, 2006, 07:42 PM   #86
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er! guys, hello! this is ghastly!

If Birmingham wants a world class skyline, plonking a building that looks like its been extracted from some dodgy chinese theme park, in the middle of the city is NOT the way to go about it!
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Old March 24th, 2006, 08:01 PM   #87
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er! guys, hello! this is ghastly!

If Birmingham wants a world class skyline, plonking a building that looks like its been extracted from some dodgy chinese theme park, in the middle of the city is NOT the way to go about it!
I have to agree the idea is cheep and tacky and design wise it looks like a tall version of the tower at the fort shopping park, total shit.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 08:40 PM   #88
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I wonder why it wasn't mentioned at yesterday's presentation.Distancing?
From a clinical view it deflects wonderfully the rage created at Wednesday's NEC decision .Coincidence?
Not forgetting that there are to be local elections in May.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 08:49 PM   #89
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I love the idea,,but it looks very similar to the BT tower.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:05 PM   #90
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I love the idea,,but it looks very similar to the BT tower.
No.. not really! This one is far tackier, but it is better than nothing. This could turn into a selfridges type building that might be liked now, but in a few years people will look back and shake their heads. I can't see how the theme park could be that amazing, i think people will go up the tower for the views and the experience.
On Midlands Today they stated the building could begin construction before the end of 2006, and if it's approved, it will hopefully spark off a series of tall proposals for Brum, just like the approval of Heron Tower set off a chain of new towers propsed in London.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:21 PM   #91
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You gullible bunch of imbeciles! Check the time of month! It's an early April Fools joke obviously.

Jesus...they really take you all for mugs don't they?

Well, I'm not falling for such an obvious ruse, even if you lot have!

Do you HONESTLY think that this proposal is supposed to be taken seriously?
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:30 PM   #92
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It's no beauty but its fun and interesting and publicity grabbing and the public will get a lot more enjoyment from it than any glassy corporate effort of which one can find anywhere (almost). Think of all these people who will experience height for themselves, gotta be good skyscraper PR for Brum!
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:30 PM   #93
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You gullible bunch of imbeciles! Check the time of month! It's an early April Fools joke obviously.

Jesus...they really take you all for mugs don't they?

Well, I'm not falling for such an obvious ruse, even if you lot have!

Do you HONESTLY think that this proposal is supposed to be taken seriously?
Errm......

If it was an April fools day joke, surely it would have been announced on..... April Fools day?

And getting Birmingham Post & Mail AND the BBC in on it.

Thats the mother of all wind ups don't you think?

My gut feeling now is that its either for real, or its a false proposal to try to help get rid of/raise the CAA limit so ACT and BST can finally be built to their full height.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:33 PM   #94
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or its a false proposal to try to help get rid of/raise the CAA limit so ACT and BST can finally be built to their full height.
There must be a bit of that in their reasoning.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:43 PM   #95
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Errm......

If it was an April fools day joke, surely it would have been announced on..... April Fools day?

And getting Birmingham Post & Mail AND the BBC in on it.

Thats the mother of all wind ups don't you think?

My gut feeling now is that its either for real, or its a false proposal to try to help get rid of/raise the CAA limit so ACT and BST can finally be built to their full height.

Not necessarily - some of the more elaborate April Fools hoaxes don't need to be pulled on the actual day! There ARE such things as April Fools jokes coming a week early and yes, the TV and media get in on it too and rise to the occasion in style - for many years now the Wirral Globe (free weekly newspaper published in Merseyside serving Wallasey, Birkenhead and Bebington areas) habitually come up with fake news stories designed to hoodwink the public - a whole week early, thus using the timescale to disguise the fact that it was all a hoax. One notorious story was published a few years back during the last week of March which announced that whole areas of housing in Moreton had to be potentially evacuated as a result of the erosion of nearby Leasowe Embankment leading to breaching by the Irish Sea, thus resulting in flooding. This caused quite a lot of alarm until it was revealed as a hoax on April 1st. Another elaborate "hoax" story that was also published a week early went on about a proposal to build two new underground Merseyrail stations to serve Birkenhead shopping precinct direct and the old Priory - people fell for this one despite the fact that in order to do this the existing lines would have had to be diverted off their current courses thus would have been rather unfeasible!

So if they could do it, then what is stopping this Brum story being designed to create the same stir?
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:54 PM   #96
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Errm......

If it was an April fools day joke, surely it would have been announced on..... April Fools day?

And getting Birmingham Post & Mail AND the BBC in on it.

Thats the mother of all wind ups don't you think?

My gut feeling now is that its either for real, or its a false proposal to try to help get rid of/raise the CAA limit so ACT and BST can finally be built to their full height.
Didn't the P&M and the BBC cover the library and NSS proposals ?.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:54 PM   #97
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D'ya know Martin I think you're right. I thought there was something fishy about this.I mean approval being submitted in a few months and construction starting later in the year.... no way. Like I said earlier, I will bear my arse outside of selfridges if this happens.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 10:37 PM   #98
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Didn't the P&M and the BBC cover the library and NSS proposals ?.
yes they did......but arent they REAL PROPOSALS?

if i had just seen the website or if i had just heard this from one source then i too would think it too much of a wind up. but this has been unveiled on the same day through ALL local press ....its very organised...

i like the idea...and for once this might not be the prettiest but this is something that will get the public behind skyscrapers...... and shows the city off that its not afraid to try new things.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #99
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I am waiting and watching...
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Old March 24th, 2006, 11:32 PM   #100
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Come on - face it - this is NOT real. It's just a bloomin' clever hoax get you all salivating. Can't believe so many of you are falling for it. So it's 175m? A tad coincidental considering AC was approved by Prezza at that height but absolutely no other Brum proposals exist in the pipeline planned to that same threshold.

Not a case of smelling a rat, but the whole ******* colony!
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