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Old October 10th, 2006, 01:31 PM   #61
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A mild form of "pigging heck"?
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Old October 10th, 2006, 01:38 PM   #62
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I should've guessed it was a spelling mistake!!!! I thought I was being accused of buggering up the Skyscraper News Website!!!!
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Old October 10th, 2006, 11:25 PM   #63
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nope..... its just your naggin which i protest against

and flamin heck is what i meant!
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Piggin' heck this web site is slow, And Piggin' heck is what I meant!
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Flamin' hack is what happens when journalists meet their maker

Anyway, I tried posting this before but will have another go:

Counting the floors, I count 4 double-height sections (3 at base, 1 at top) and 39 normal floors. This makes 45 floors above ground.

Using the rule that 1 resi floor = 3m, I think this is going to be 135m tall

Now, all we need to know is whether this is a vision, or whether there may be a bit more substance to it....

We know Glenn Howells are definitely doing this building, but whether this is the final article or not remains to be establised does it not?
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Old October 11th, 2006, 12:12 PM   #66
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It will look fantastic as you approach town from the Lancaster Circus flyover ..... talking of which, there could be another tower of equal height built at Lancaster Circus too!!! Great times ahead for Birmingham!!!
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I know someone working in Lloyd House and he has not been told of anything happening there so I doubt there is going to be demolition on that site but mroe a clean and/ or clad.

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Well there facts given seems to be very precise so I believe that was a lot going on behind the scenes here. I think this has been going on for quite a while... And I hope it wont be much longer until this baby rises.
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Old October 11th, 2006, 08:04 PM   #68
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Flamin' hack is what happens when journalists meet their maker

Anyway, I tried posting this before but will have another go:

Counting the floors, I count 4 double-height sections (3 at base, 1 at top) and 39 normal floors. This makes 45 floors above ground.

Using the rule that 1 resi floor = 3m, I think this is going to be 135m tall

Now, all we need to know is whether this is a vision, or whether there may be a bit more substance to it....

We know Glenn Howells are definitely doing this building, but whether this is the final article or not remains to be establised does it not?
well i know this is optermistic but im sorta hoping that with GH being on this resi element for @least the last 6 months, they have got past the visionary stage. i mean this has outline and stuff and the 1st phase is due to start.... thoughts?!?!?
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Old October 11th, 2006, 08:48 PM   #69
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I agree. As I said in my last comment, I think there has been alot behind the scenes which we do not know about.
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Old October 16th, 2006, 12:23 PM   #70
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There was an advertisement by Ballymore for this scheme in last weeks Estates Gazette showing the lowest floors of a basic model.

It was touting for an hotel operator, and saying the hotel had 120 (180?) rooms, gym, spa, conference & banqueting facilities, restaurants, bar/cafe's etc etc. And it is pitched at becoming 'the best hotel in Birmingham'.

I have heard that it will be an operator that is new to Birmingham, and if it is to be the best I can only think of Shangri-La, Four Seasons, Sheraton or someone like the Savoy/Dorchester.

Any others?
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Savoy & Dorchester???? As much as I love the city, I can't see them opening up a 5 star hotel next to a 'down & out' hostel in Snow Hill!!!

"Best in Brum" probably means on a par with the likes of Malmaison & Hotel du Vin ..... very nice, but not quite up there with the Dorchester!
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Well, they are competing with Hyatt Regency, Radisson, Malmaison, Hotel Du Vin & Marriott so it has got to be a 5* to get "the best in Brum".
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Well my bet is on something like a Hilton. However im very impressed with this scheme already, it certainly is moving fast. Construction next year?
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There isn't a 5 star hotel in central Birmingham, so it may just be a very good 4 star hotel chain that they attract to this site. I'm not sure this is a "5 star" site any way, it is on the periphery of the central area. Now if a hotel group were to aqcuire the Grand Hotel site, I could see that being converted into a 5 star hotel.
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Now if a hotel group were to aqcuire the Grand Hotel site, I could see that being converted into a 5 star hotel.
Here! Here! Shocking waste of one of the best sites in the city.

What on earth are Hortons Estates (is it them) messing about at. It seems to fly in the face of their approach with the rest of the city.

Anyway, back to the subject in hand, perhaps they could move the thistle hotel from that monstrosity 100 yds away. Not "best in Brum" admittedly, but it would free up their current spot opposite St Chads so that it could be replaced with something that isn't an affront to humanity!!!
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There isn't a 5 star hotel in central Birmingham, so it may just be a very good 4 star hotel chain that they attract to this site. I'm not sure this is a "5 star" site any way, it is on the periphery of the central area. Now if a hotel group were to aqcuire the Grand Hotel site, I could see that being converted into a 5 star hotel.
That's my point - all the other ones I mentioned are 4*, so this one has to be a 5* in order to be the best.

As for the Thistle - I have a *feeling* it will move before many years are past.

This is mere speculation, but the hotel in BST would be a good Thistle.
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Doesn't the star rating now go higher, something like 7*?
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That's my point - all the other ones I mentioned are 4*, so this one has to be a 5* in order to be the best.

As for the Thistle - I have a *feeling* it will move before many years are past.

This is mere speculation, but the hotel in BST would be a good Thistle.

There is an almighty great jump from a 4 star to a 5 star hotel, believe me!
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Well, the Hyatt has been borderline for ages and are trying for 5 - they improved the restaurant (down gone down a bit) but that is why they are spending all the money on a new foyer, refurbs and the spa (and bar!). I think they will get their 5 shortly...
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Doesn't the star rating now go higher, something like 7*?
Thats a different rating I think. The international ratings only go to 5. The Burj Al Arab claims to be a 7* but they are really just an awesomely good 5*. Do you know of any 6*?
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