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View Poll Results: What's your opinion of this building?
Love it! Superb design, perfect height and location. 287 29.23%
Like it. Good design, and the height seems reasonable for this location. 351 35.74%
Good design, but it needs to be taller. 191 19.45%
Good design, but it needs to be shorter. 30 3.05%
Hate it! Awful design, unsuitable height and location. 123 12.53%
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Old May 7th, 2014, 06:39 PM   #2041
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Do we really care about the woes of the millionaires and billionaires that have money to throw at these apartments? It's not like anyone is going to be economically coerced into living here!
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Old May 8th, 2014, 09:56 AM   #2042
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Nope. But it's remarkable that 1) the market clearly values high ceilings, and homes with them consistently command a premium in terms of price; 2) no new-build residential developments have high ceilings, not even those aimed at the extremely wealthy. Proof, if anyone needs any, of just how dysfunctional the UK's housing market is.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 10:16 AM   #2043
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I suppose taller ceilings mean either a taller building (blocked due to sightlines), and sell each apartment for more money to make up the cost. Or, fewer apartments with higher ceilings. But financially, the sums probably mean that they'll make more money with more apartments rather than fewer apartments with some better features such as taller ceilings.

I personally wouldn't be too concerned. The millionaires buying these apartments do it through choice and these are the people who set the market rate because they're willing to pay huge money for them - heigh ceilings or not!
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Old May 8th, 2014, 10:21 AM   #2044
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Nope. But it's remarkable that 1) the market clearly values high ceilings, and homes with them consistently command a premium in terms of price; 2) no new-build residential developments have high ceilings, not even those aimed at the extremely wealthy. Proof, if anyone needs any, of just how dysfunctional the UK's housing market is.
Not at all, the developer has simply calculated they can make more money by squeezing more flats into the tower by having as low ceilings as they can get away with ( what 8ft or something ? ). The same as every other developer does.
High ceilings certainly command a premium but getting more flats into a space will always bring more profit.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 10:22 AM   #2045
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I think we typed at the same time storeys!!!!
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Old May 8th, 2014, 01:59 PM   #2046
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Cladding looks great. Wish this is what they used on the Shard.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 04:00 PM   #2047
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Students of Notre Dame have buried a time capsule today at One Blackfriars:

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Old May 11th, 2014, 10:36 PM   #2048
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I'm wondering if the drone I saw a while ago was here to take panoramic photos of the view you'll get from the tower? There's a 360 pano on the site http://www.oneblackfriars.co.uk/index.cfm?articleID=159 and the PBS episode on One 57 in New York shows a drone being used for this purpose there.
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Old May 12th, 2014, 12:39 AM   #2049
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how long ago was 'a while'? you could probably date it from the state of the tate extension
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:51 AM   #2050
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Too early to see anything spectacular but just imagine how it will look from this angle
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Old July 14th, 2014, 08:36 AM   #2052
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Apologies for bumping this but this 'building' seems to be taking an inordinate amount of time to emerge. Is it stalled or is there an archaeological dig or something? If not, it shouldn't take so long (18 months) to dig a big hole!

If stalled, perhaps we should have a separate thread for stalled projects. I can think of two major schemes to debut!!!
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Old July 14th, 2014, 09:42 AM   #2053
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Apologies for bumping this but this 'building' seems to be taking an inordinate amount of time to emerge. Is it stalled or is there an archaeological dig or something? If not, it shouldn't take so long (18 months) to dig a big hole!

If stalled, perhaps we should have a separate thread for stalled projects. I can think of two major schemes to debut!!!
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Approximate timescales provided from Laing O'Rourke

• 6th or 13th January – piling commences for approximately 5 months. Piling depths range from 30 to 55 metres.
• Breaking works continue to end of January, but gradually moving further away from the Blackfriars Road elevation.
• Sub-structure works complete in March 2015.
• Super-structure tender 2014.
• Super structure works commence early 2015.
It's not scheduled to rise until 2015.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 12:03 PM   #2054
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Thanks Core Rising but perhaps this shouldn't have been placed in 'Under Construction' if it is yet a further 8 months away from any visible signs. Talk about slowness - think ESB (18 months for completion in 1930!!)
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Old July 14th, 2014, 03:27 PM   #2055
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Thanks Core Rising but perhaps this shouldn't have been placed in 'Under Construction' if it is yet a further 8 months away from any visible signs. Talk about slowness - think ESB (18 months for completion in 1930!!)
It is 'under construction', just mainly below ground level at the moment.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 01:54 PM   #2056
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A great looking building it will be awseome on the skyline- just a shame the flats will be so unaffordable as per usual. For the rich only - ho hum...
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Old July 17th, 2014, 01:34 AM   #2057
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Well it's pretty unrealistic to expect super-luxury flats in this sort of location to be affordable.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 08:41 AM   #2058
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Thanks Core Rising but perhaps this shouldn't have been placed in 'Under Construction' if it is yet a further 8 months away from any visible signs. Talk about slowness - think ESB (18 months for completion in 1930!!)
Well, to build a 160m tower in highly saturated London Clay on the Thames bank isn't easy - the geotechnics themselves must be a nightmare. Having studied Civil Engineering I think its remarkable that such a tower is even possible, let alone financially viable. I doubt ESB would have encountered even half the geotechnics troubles this project is taking head-on.
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I pass this site semi-regularly and it's certainly a hive of activity.
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Old September 16th, 2014, 04:13 PM   #2060
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Here's my new One Blackfriars Road HD diagram:

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