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Old December 12th, 2006, 09:17 PM   #1
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Could'nt find the original thread. Should be some news on this soon.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 09:17 PM   #2
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Should there? The design competition has not been long going.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 09:26 PM   #3
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The projects valuation is circa. £150m - Site has been confirmed for the current car park between the ICC and Baskerville House. Mr Chinn was present
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Old December 12th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #4
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The projects valuation is circa. £150m - Site has been confirmed for the current car park between the ICC and Baskerville House. Mr Chinn was present
You mean the Rep and Baskerville House because if what you say is true, the Rep will go. I wish part of the design was to demolish the tower blocks behind it (Sorry Smiley and Butterfield!) because they really do blight the skyline more than anything.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 09:57 PM   #5
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You mean the Rep and Baskerville House because if what you say is true, the Rep will go. I wish part of the design was to demolish the tower blocks behind it (Sorry Smiley and Butterfield!) because they really do blight the skyline more than anything.
The Rep will go? To be relocated? If so, where?

If this is true then we could have a building that harks back to original designs for this area - something with some civic presence that stretches the entire length of Centenary Square!
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Old December 12th, 2006, 11:59 PM   #6
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I agree with Erebus555, those tower blocks should go and the Library should edge onto the Canal, with a huge double storey balcony over looking the waterway.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 12:21 AM   #7
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We all still talking about this?
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Old December 13th, 2006, 12:28 AM   #8
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Its moving again. £150m on a Library is big bucks. The council have done alot of work over recent months. Got some worthwhile names on board.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 12:36 AM   #9
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The Rep is a great building, it would be tragic if it were destroyed.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 12:39 AM   #10
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Riiiight. So, Lrd Rogers' project did not go ahead because they didn't have enough money, and now they are coming out with £150m. BCC really wanted to scrap Labour's idea, reminds me of 'weapons of mass destruction' being a diversion having no money.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 12:43 AM   #11
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SimLim was being a little vague - he means the carpark area only between the ICC and Baskerville - in other words the carpark next to the REP. I'd like to see it diagonally linked by a bridge to the site created by the demo of the extg multi storey carpark behind BH.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 01:32 AM   #12
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I'd rather they just kept as it is than either squeeze it into the crappy carpark space or even worse demolish the rep
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Old December 13th, 2006, 09:49 AM   #13
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Don't worry the rep wont be demolished., great on the inside, not so great on the outside x
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The Rep is a great building, it would be tragic if it were destroyed.
The REP aint going nowhere!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 10:17 AM   #15
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Isn't it funny how things snowball?

From what I know:
- the library is earmarked for the space between the Rep & Baskerville House
- it will be the lending and reference library, with a separate archives and family history library elsewhere
- Capita Percy Thomas, designers of the ICC & NIA, and more recently the Welsh National Centre (name?) in Cardiff (the one with the big copper lettering on the front) are appointed architects.
- the council are seeking to keep the archive library close to the main library if they can
- cost will be £100-150m, compared to the Rogers' £280-350m

I am not happy about the loss of the Rogers Library (as a piece of architecture) nor the blow to Eastside with the loss of such an important culutural facility, BUT Eastside has receovered and City Park Gate has restored my architectural desires

I STILL think it is a stupid, schoolboy mistake to separate the two libraries. The only way I could be appeased would be if the archive section were moved to BMAG, and we had a nice new modern art gallery instead. I hope Mr Whitby is reading this!

But, I concede defeat on the whole library issue We just have to make sure the new design is more along the lines of the Welsh Centre and not the ICC!
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Wales Millennium Centre .... groovy name!

Mind you, it trips off the tongue a little easier than "Canolfan Mileniwm Cymru"!!!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 11:24 AM   #17
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The Future Library thread was here https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...9#post10047199

I have completely lost interest in this and I'm unsure what to think about CPT being appointed. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #18
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How can you lose interest in a £150m new build at the heart of Birminghams main public square which will become an attraction in its own right?

This stalled. Its back on its feet and much better organised then the original project. They've got a site which in all honesty is perfect. ICC, Rep, Baskerville, NIA, Paradise Circus, Broad Street. think about future development. This area is going to be the heart and soul of the city, a world class library will add to it.

Yes the Rogers library was superb. Probably the best of any library projects in Europe but it had many problems. Eastside has recovered with some fantastic projects. Give this chance. Im not a fan of Whitby but his done good with this one.
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How can you lose interest in a £150m new build at the heart of Birminghams main public square which will become an attraction in its own right?

This stalled. Its back on its feet and much better organised then the original project. They've got a site which in all honesty is perfect. ICC, Rep, Baskerville, NIA, Paradise Circus, Broad Street. think about future development. This area is going to be the heart and soul of the city, a world class library will add to it.

Yes the Rogers library was superb. Probably the best of any library projects in Europe but it had many problems. Eastside has recovered with some fantastic projects. Give this chance. Im not a fan of Whitby but his done good with this one.

Well, who's lost interest in a £1/2billion project on the other side of the road then, eh??
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I havent lost interest. Its just pointless talking about the same thing over and over again.

Not to mention posting pictures of skyscrapers from other cities. I dont want a copy of a tower built 10 years ago in a foreign land.
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