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Old June 15th, 2007, 03:44 PM   #61
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I don't see the problem with having a Chinese, Gay, Asian, Irish or whatever quarter.

It is not creating a ghetto, it is describing a place.
Exactly. Well said. It also creates interest and tourists. Anyway did you ever think that a lot of gay people actually want a 'gay' quarter?
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Old June 15th, 2007, 04:42 PM   #62
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Well, just done some checking out after being prompted by another forumer, and can confirm the C/03531/07/FUL apartment block is that corner, but goes around the Big Issue building
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Old June 15th, 2007, 04:46 PM   #63
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Then maybe Broad Street should be changed to the Entertainment & Heterosexual Quarter??!!

I think it is ridiculous that 'gender' or 'sexual orientation' should be included in titles of city areas.
Without citing my entire Masters thesis, space is heteronormative. That is predominately conceived of a heterosexual and often without thinking of it as such. For example two men holding hands generally doesnt happen outside of less heteronormative space because of 'threat of homosexuality or 'the other' to that space.

Gay villages or scenes tend to spring up spontaneously in areas of deprivation and waste buildings where heteronormativity is weak and an identity of homosexualtiy can be created. Thats why Brum's gay village exists where it does. It is also a case of safety with a 'safety in numbers element' which allows the space to homonormative.

The thread title reflects the area that includes entertainment centre of arcadian and buzzing regeneration spot of Hurst Street and therefore also adjoining roads. The planning app was best here as its in its local area as opposed to Digbeth which people would associated more readlily with Irish Quarter. If you wanted to be really pedantic you would create a Nechells thread but most people wouldnt conceive of that unless thinking in planning wards where this area all Nechells rather than ladywood.

As for gay quarter, there is nothing wrong with that. Problem if anything is that the boundaries are porous so its a fusion of entertainment-arcadian quarter/chinese quarter/ gay quarter. It also labels an identity as much as Irish quarter. Difference does exist and a village can help to foster an identity or create a space for a community. I wouldnt want to have a gay ghetto as there is already heterophobia in the gay community and that wont help gaining gay rights.

anyway, thats my penny's worth.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 09:10 PM   #64
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It did always strike me as slightly ironic that the gay quarter (well it's not really large enough to be a quarter) is in amongst garages and so on - surely one of the most straight industries around.

I fear we won't see any proper changes to the area until a BID is formed. It seems previous partnerships just fall apart whether it be because of egos or competition or what, which doesn't fill me with optimism. That said they seem to be working together - well for fairy lights. Hmm.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 09:52 PM   #65
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I don't see the problem with having a Chinese, Gay, Asian, Irish or whatever quarter.

It is not creating a ghetto, it is describing a place.
You might have a problem with a Chinese gay Asian Irish quarter though. There cant be many of those guys around.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:18 PM   #66
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You might have a problem with a Chinese gay Asian Irish quarter though. There cant be many of those guys around.
ha ha, you've just described the mixture of me and my partner
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:26 PM   #67
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ha ha, you've just described the mixture of me and my partner
Outstanding! You still cant have a quarter though - that's just greedy. Maybe a sixteenth. Maybe.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 11:25 PM   #68
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Somebody can't count.. there are more than 4 quarters to Brum. We need to rename a few places as there are too many...

Jewellery Quarter
Gun Quarter
Convention Quarter
Irish Quarter
Chinese/Gay/Markets Quarter

anymore i've forgotten about?
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Old June 15th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #69
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I guess at a push you could include the 'learning quarter' or whatever it's going to be in Eastside. When it actually exists.
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Outstanding! You still cant have a quarter though - that's just greedy. Maybe a sixteenth. Maybe.
lol,

i wander, are there any english quarters abroad ?

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Maaaybe... where there's big concentrations of ex-pats I'd speculate.
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Old June 16th, 2007, 01:33 AM   #72
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Old June 16th, 2007, 01:59 AM   #73
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Really like the size of the windows in the new Latitude development, compared to, say, something like the far smaller versions in the Orion building. The Bromsgrove street/Hurst street route is going to be a very important new artery for the city once this and other buildings have been completed.
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Somebody can't count.. there are more than 4 quarters to Brum. We need to rename a few places as there are too many...

Jewellery Quarter
Gun Quarter
Convention Quarter
Irish Quarter
Chinese/Gay/Markets Quarter

anymore i've forgotten about?
Lol. its true. Despite quarter imply one of four parts Birmingham has over 5 'quarters'.

On the gay village being amongst garages and those being very 'macho'.
Its not so much the industry as the neglect. Plus being gay doesnt mean you can't be macho too. I like to think of sexuality as a gradient from black to white and even then labels don't do justice to variety of practices and views out there. Sadly we are so easily labelled: white, black, gay, straight, single, partnered.
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nothing to do with 25%

http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/quartiers
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Don't forget there's the Technology quarter by Aston Science Park, Learning quarter MBC and Aston Uni etc etc, and the Media Quarter nearer the Custard Factory.

You could argue that there's a market quarter too - but I haven't actually heard that used yet.
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Business Quarter?

Did I put this picture in this thread? Don't think I did.
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Maybe not here but QUARTER can imply one of four if you want to be pedantic

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quarter
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On the planning app for corner of Bristol St and Essex Street, it seems they have updated website. Sadly no pictures but a traffic report. Makes it a bit clearer where it is too.

6-12 Bristol Street / 31-38 Essex Street, Corner of, Nechells, Birmingham, B5


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2.1.1 The proposed development site is located within Birmingham city centre is bounded on four sides by Essex Street to the North, a private access and a proposed mixed use development to the East, commercial and retail interests to the South and Bristol Street to the West. The site is close to one of the main retail and leisure centres of Birmingham and the area is generally a mix of residential, retail and commercial interests.

2.1.2 The proposed development site is currently occupied by a prestige car showroom, redundant warehouse/storage units and miscellaneous commercial properties of which the majority are unoccupied. The prestige car showroom has pedestrian access from Essex Street, with vehicular access gained via a private access. The warehouse/storage units have vehicular and pedestrian access from Essex Street with the former being via a simple dropped kerb arrangement. The remaining commercial properties fro$nting Essex Street all have pedestrian access, but no vehicular access.
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next door to i-land isn't it?
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