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Old June 23rd, 2011, 07:29 AM   #21
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Definitely. I think it'd be easier for overseas business to identify with.
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Of course!! The name is also the wrong description. The real West Midlands would be Worcestershire, Herefordshire and Shropshire. We are central and the urban sprawl is a collection of boroughs where Birmingham is the dominant city. Any other area in the UK or in any other country would never dream of being so accommodating and trying not to offend the adjacent boroughs. Solihull is an unofficial SE suburb, Walsall a N suburb while the rest of the Black Country being NW suburbs of a Greater Birmingham - get over it and then we can all move on under one simple name.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 09:20 AM   #23
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To be honest, I think of it as greater birmingham anyway. The west mids to me is a region, not a city, like the north west or south east. I think they've branded brum and the urban area as the 'west midlands conurbation area' to appease everyone but it's just not very marketable. In my opinion, I think they'll eventually go with greater brum, makes sense.
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Any other area in the UK or in any other country would never dream of being so accommodating and trying not to offend the adjacent boroughs.
Merseyside, Humberside,West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Tyne and Wear.

The only one that dosn't* is well, I think we all know where.


*well not that Liverpool, Hull, Birmingham, Shffield or Newcastle had much say in it.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:27 PM   #25
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Has anyone ever thought that a lot of people who live 10 miles away simply don't want to be associated with the Birmingham name? Not only is it a different city but it isn't always the most fashionable or attractive name to be associated with.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:30 PM   #26
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Has anyone ever thought that a lot of people who live 10 miles away simply don't want to be associated with the Birmingham name? Not only is it a different city but it isn't always the most fashionable or attractive name to be associated with.
You're right. The area should be called Greater Gornals.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #27
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Well, you say that but people do choose to move to this area to get away from the big cities and would probably prefer the above name.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 03:02 PM   #28
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You're right. The area should be called Greater Gornals.
Lower Gornal, Upper Gornal and Outer Gornal...
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Old June 24th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #29
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Lower Gornal, Upper Gornal and Outer Gornal...
What about Inner Gornal, Greater Gornal, Lesser Gornal, Middle Gornal, ******s-and-Peas-by-Gornal?
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Gornalhul, Gornal Coldfield, Gornaley, Gornalsall, Gornalhampton, Gornalston, Gornalville, Gornalford, Gornal Barr... the possibilities are endless!
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Old June 24th, 2011, 03:35 PM   #31
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They are indeed: Gornalborne, Gornalwick, Gornalwell, Gornal Heath, Gornalbrook, Gornalton, Gornal Oaks, Little Gornal, Gornalfield, Gornal Norton, Gornal Hall, Gornal Green, Gornal Bank, Gornalwood...
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Old June 24th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #32
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Gornalwood...
There's already a Gornalwood/Gornal Wood - it's where the legendary Crooked House is.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #33
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Well, you say that but people do choose to move to this area to get away from the big cities and would probably prefer the above name.
If people are moving to the Black Country where Lower Gornal is, they are moving to an area that has a name as equally poorly perceived as Birmingham!
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Old June 24th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #34
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If people are moving to the Black Country where Lower Gornal is, they are moving to an area that has a name as equally poorly perceived as Birmingham!
True. I'm not keen on the name "The Black Country" as an official title, other than for historical reasons, as it's rather misleading these days when there's not much industry around and half the Black Country is actually green now. At least "The Potteries" sounds... cute, or something.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 05:53 PM   #35
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There's already a Gornalwood/Gornal Wood - it's where the legendary Crooked House is.
Oh well, didn't know that, only really heard of Gornal and Lower Gornal.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #36
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Has anyone ever thought that a lot of people who live 10 miles away simply don't want to be associated with the Birmingham name? Not only is it a different city but it isn't always the most fashionable or attractive name to be associated with.


And being called the West Midlands is fashionable and attractive ??????
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Old June 25th, 2011, 12:37 PM   #37
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The Black Country is the urban sprawl of Western Birmingham - to say you live in Dudley, Butters, is fine but don't you feel like you're some product of a 1970s experiment when you have to add "the West Midlands" to your address?? The name is meaningless and disparaging and also gives someone from Wolverhampton a vague crappy identity as someone from Knowle at the complete opposite end of the conurbation. Don't you see?? It doesn't mean anything!!!! And of course the regional West Midlands could be anywhere between Ross on Wye to Rugby to Stoke!!! Yet by using something like Greater Birmingham / Birmingham City Region it gives you an identity to a particular part of the UK.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 12:43 PM   #38
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Nobody in Greater Manchester consiously thinks or says that they are from Greater Manchester.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 02:21 PM   #39
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And being called the West Midlands is fashionable and attractive ??????
It's fine for the name of the region but not for a supposed county.


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The Black Country is the urban sprawl of Western Birmingham - to say you live in Dudley, Butters, is fine but don't you feel like you're some product of a 1970s experiment when you have to add "the West Midlands" to your address?? The name is meaningless and disparaging and also gives someone from Wolverhampton a vague crappy identity as someone from Knowle at the complete opposite end of the conurbation. Don't you see?? It doesn't mean anything!!!! And of course the regional West Midlands could be anywhere between Ross on Wye to Rugby to Stoke!!! Yet by using something like Greater Birmingham / Birmingham City Region it gives you an identity to a particular part of the UK.
We lost any identity in 1974 when our towns were taken out of the traditional counties and grouped together under one strange fake "county" name. I have absolutely nothing against Birmingham as my local big city but I'd just prefer a separate identity - believe it or not, there's more to our area than just Birmingham and as I already said it doesn't always strike up the nicest image - which isn't great when you're not even from that city. Maybe once Birmingham itself gets a better reputation its neighbours won't mind being associated with it quite so much.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 05:20 PM   #40
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We lost any identity in 1974 when our towns were taken out of the traditional counties and grouped together under one strange fake "county" name. I have absolutely nothing against Birmingham as my local big city but I'd just prefer a separate identity - believe it or not, there's more to our area than just Birmingham and as I already said it doesn't always strike up the nicest image - which isn't great when you're not even from that city. Maybe once Birmingham itself gets a better reputation its neighbours won't mind being associated with it quite so much.[/QUOTE]






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