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Old November 17th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #61
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Anyone aware of the lifespan of the dome? I cant imagine it being a hugely long lasting structure, werent there were holes appearing before O2 took it over?
I dont really like this development, from what ive seen of the renders half the buildings look like something from teletuby land. There are a few that stand out.. but thats not saying much. Would any of you actually want to live there? (forgetting the views of course!)
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The roof has a lifespan of 25 years but obviously will be replaced before then.

I see the Peninsula becoming quite a lively place in a decade or so. It will be interesting because it will become throughly mixed use; more so than Canary Wharf. As long as they put in the right facilities i don't see why it wouldn't thrive. People only consider it a dead place at the moment because there isn't a lot there, the same was said about Canary Wharf fifteen years ago.
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Old November 17th, 2008, 07:06 PM   #63
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Pilling on the Ravensbourne College and earth works on the western residential site (SW of the O²) were underway this weekend.
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I see the Peninsula becoming quite a lively place in a decade or so. It will be interesting because it will become throughly mixed use; more so than Canary Wharf. As long as they put in the right facilities i don't see why it wouldn't thrive. People only consider it a dead place at the moment because there isn't a lot there, the same was said about Canary Wharf fifteen years ago.
exactly; i would want to live here and watch it all grow around me.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 01:05 AM   #65
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fair enough, thats a pretty good reason.. would be interesting to see a cityhub develop around yourself. dont think i would enjoy the architectural environment personally, but yea, i can see your reasons.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 02:07 PM   #66
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IF only it had a phyiscal linke, bridge or foot tunnel to Wood Wharf, Canay Wharf or anywhere on the North Bank.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 10:21 AM   #67
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Finally U/C & theres a couple of pics of the patterned cladding.
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Ravensbourne sets a pattern

28 November 2008

Construction work has begun on Foreign Office Architects’ £50 million Ravensbourne College of Design & Commun-ication, on the Greenwich peninsula in London.

The building, near the 02 centre, has a striking facade made of anodised aluminium based on a non-repetitive mathematical pattern.

FOA principal Alejandro Zaero-Polo said: “The architecture is designed to capitalise on Ravensbourne’s roots in the arts and crafts tradition, characterised by the floral motifs which appear on wallpapers and claddings.

“When we started the project, the O2 centre hadn’t started being refurbished — it was a kind of desert. Now it’s an interesting urban environment. The idea is that the college acts as a magnet for industry.”

he project, which cleared planning in September last year, will create 14,200sq m of floor space for the college, plus commercial retail space.

It will have a flexible underground area with studios and workshops. The scheme has been awarded Breeam “excellent” status for its green roof, solar hot water and biomass boiler.

It will accommodate 1,500 students, and is due to be completed in 2009.

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Old November 28th, 2008, 11:56 AM   #68
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I think there's great potential for this area. As more and more buildings go up and the housing starts to come online there will be a great community. I've been to a fair few events at the Dome now but a couple of weekends ago we were leaving on a Saturday night after watching Monkey and the 'class' or lack of it of the people going out for the night in the Dome was shocking. Ferral doesn't quite describe it!

Love the Ravensbourne renders btw...looks great!
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Old November 28th, 2008, 07:16 PM   #69
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Finally U/C & theres a couple of pics of the patterned cladding.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 10:19 PM   #70
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Bit of info from Quintains recent results.....

Greenwich Peninsula
Construction of the first commercial buildings at Greenwich Peninsula continues on time and budget, with the completion of Transport for London’s (“TfL”) new office scheduled for April 2009. Ravensbourne College has also begun construction of their new facility adjacent to TfL’s office and The O2. The College will relocate to the Peninsula in September 2010, bringing early animation to the scheme. With 1,500 people starting work in TfL’s new office next summer and 1,500 students based on the Peninsula from 2010, marketing of the retail units, comprising 21,000 sq ft within the buildings under
construction, will soon begin.

Further to the announcement in June that detailed planning consent has been achieved for 153 more homes, the first apartments at Peninsula Quays received detailed planning consent in October 2008. The total number of homes now consented at Greenwich Peninsula is 1,291, with 229 apartments currently under construction by Bellway.

Discussions with AEG during the period resulted in their agreement to extend the lease on The O2 to 100 years in return for variations regarding their proposed hotel scheme on the North West of the Peninsula. After 16 months of operation, The O2 has attracted in excess of 10 million visitors and generated annual rent of £1.6m for Quintain and our joint venture partner, Lend Lease (Europe).
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Old December 4th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #71
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So according to that statement 229 apartments are U/C - is this true and if so where are they? Anybody got any links?
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Old December 4th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #72
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Im pretty sure its the Bellway site just to the NE of the Millennium village, although recent pictures suggested there was not a lof of work on site . I think its the Stock Woolstencroft building posted earlier in the thread.

Im also assuming the Patel Taylor tower is the 30 storey tower Quintain reports has recently got planning permission.

The last paragraph mentioning the AEG lease sounds interesting as its seems like they are working on the hotel scheme. Hopefully they progress with the Rogers tower and it ties in with AEG supposedly announcing early next year their plans for the next steps in developing the dome site.
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Old December 4th, 2008, 06:21 PM   #73
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Im pretty sure its the Bellway site just to the NE of the Millennium village, although recent pictures suggested there was not a lof of work on site . I think its the Stock Woolstencroft building posted earlier in the thread.

Im also assuming the Patel Taylor tower is the 30 storey tower Quintain reports has recently got planning permission.

The last paragraph mentioning the AEG lease sounds interesting as its seems like they are working on the hotel scheme. Hopefully they progress with the Rogers tower and it ties in with AEG supposedly announcing early next year their plans for the next steps in developing the dome site.

two weeks ago, there was some activity just SW of the O2...they were levelling the ground and bringing those kind of cables...

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Old December 6th, 2008, 07:02 PM   #74
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There is a reference to 229 homes U/C by Bellway at Peninsula Riverside on the English Partnerships site - however this was last updated April 2008. I therefore assume that if they ever actually started on site they have not got very far. The site should be somewhere near the above photo though ie south of the dome.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 11:17 AM   #75
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http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/n...nt_stalls.html


Speaking at the Thames Gateway Forum in London's Excel Centre on 27 November, Andrew Storey, joint chief executive for the Greenwich Peninsula, admitted none of the projects on the drawing board for Greenwich Peninsula, the massive regeneration scheme around the O2 (formerly the Millennium Dome), would begin on site until values begin to climb back up.

'House prices are now 20 per cent below where they were [when permission was granted in 2007], so we need to wait until they return to what they were before we can go ahead,' says Storey of the project, which is backed by Quintain and Lend Lease.

According to UK house price growth predictions by property agent Jones Lang LaSalle, a return to 2007 levels will take five years. 'And that,' warns Storey, 'assumes a recovery will start this time next year.'

As a result, the Terry Farrell-masterplanned Greenwich Peninsula could see nearly half a decade of inactivity. Numerous projects could be stalled, including a 305-home development by Flacq at Peninsula Central; a residential scheme by CF Møller; another by Patel Taylor Architects at Peninsula Quays; and a 207-home project with 40 per cent sustainable homes by Jestico + Whiles at Peninsula Parkside.

Jestico + Whiles director Heinz Richardson says the delays are 'not a surprise in the context of the current climate'. Even schemes already under construction, it has emerged, are not immune. Storey admits that work on Stock Woolstencroft's 229-apartment scheme for Bellway Homes next to the River Thames 'has paused due to market conditions'.
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so he wants to wait until we have the peak of another boom and are approaching a bust... the whole thing is nuts.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 05:38 PM   #77
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There are soo greedy...I guess they'll be forced to sell flats again to increase revenue...sitting on acquired land for the next ascending phase in the cycle to happen may prove even more "painfull" than selling at a 30% discount.
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yeah, so much for this being a government led project to provide much needed vital housing for london (!) it's all about developers making money isn't it. wasn't the land given to them at a discount in return for large amounts of affordable housing being built? didn't the developers then sit on it for years and years until property prices and their profits could reach a peak? actually, if someone has some available links that go back in time about this and the way the land was divided and when it was expected to be developed can they post them here. should be interesting to compare the bullshit with the reality.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 06:14 PM   #79
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yeah, so much for this being a government led project to provide much needed vital housing for london (!) it's all about developers making money isn't it.
I've said it before this is an example of total ineptitude by various government departments and greedy developers. The peninsula has had all the remedial work and infrastructure in place since 1999 and following the massive housing boom & shortages f-all was built except very slowly phased ( and increasingly expensive) plots of the millennium village. Now they finally got round to getting planning permission the private developers don't want to build anything in the current climate.

At this rate come 2012 and the worlds eyes are on the dome they will see the grand regeneration project of the last millennium as nicely laid out roads and a bit of greenery with boarded up plots of land flanking Millennium Way.

Thank god Ken signed up TFL for the office component & the Ravensbourne college sticking with its plans to move.
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so who are the various govt depts and developers we can hold responsible. that's the info i'm after
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