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Old December 30th, 2010, 02:46 PM   #121
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No wonder, the membranes collapse!
take a look at the retractable roof: the membranes ar much "smaller", or supperted with sub-constructions! the fixed roof has HUGE membranes, which means more surface, which collects more snow/weight. but without sufficiently support...

can't they replace the membranes with metal trapezoid-sheets, like at the tt-arena in istanbul?! that must be possible. as far as i know, membranes aren't much more light, but less solid.
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Old December 31st, 2010, 09:57 PM   #122
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Old January 1st, 2011, 06:18 AM   #123
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After the snow melts away, how is the roof of the Veltins Arena going to be fixed?
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Old January 1st, 2011, 10:49 AM   #124
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Das stadion ist wohl ein witz!

Auch wenn ich Schalke-fan und im Besitz einer Dauerkarte bin, muss ich dir zum Teil recht geben!
Es steht fest, dass die an Weihnachten niedergegangenen Schneemengen Rekord seit Beginn der Wetteraufzeichnungen sind. Das Dach wurde statisch aufgrund der nach den Erfahrungen möglichen Schneemengen plus Sicherheitszuschlag konstruiert und gebaut. Allerdings ist die Veltins-Arena nicht das einzige Stadion, welches diese Membran als Dachbespannung benutzt, deshalb wird man forschen müssen, warum es ausgerechnet hier passiert ist. (Wenn man sich die Bilder oben anschaut, sieht man, dass die Planen mit größerer Spannweite eingerissen sind, die Tortenstücke in den Ecken sowie das fahrbare Dach mit engerer Dachkonstruktion sind nicht betroffen!)

Grundsätzlich stellt sich die Frage, ob man nicht besser ein stinknormales Stadio ohne Cabriodach gebaut hätte, welches mit einer Dachhaut aus Metall ausgekommen wäre. Mir hätte das völlig gereicht!

Es würde mich nicht wundern, wenn man grundsätzlich über diese dachkonstruktion nachdenken und anschließend etwas völlig neues draufmachen müsste!
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Old January 1st, 2011, 10:52 AM   #125
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It seems German engineering is not as gründlich as it used to be.
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Old January 1st, 2011, 11:11 AM   #126
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It seems German engineering is not as gründlich as it used to be.

The construction was manged by the dutch company HBM!!!
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Old January 1st, 2011, 11:19 AM   #127
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After the snow melts away, how is the roof of the Veltins Arena going to be fixed?
No informations about this! I guess, they will fix it with new membranes (from the US). For the future they have to remove the snow in time!

Aswell the space between the two membranes can be heated.


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Old January 1st, 2011, 08:32 PM   #128
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Old January 11th, 2011, 02:21 AM   #129
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to anyone questioning why there are double the exits in the smaller upper tier - it is a matter of safety! and due to german/european law people must be able to exit an area within a certain time frame. people in the lower tier can use the playing surface as a means of escape in the event of an emergency, those in the upper tier can not!
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Old January 11th, 2011, 12:38 PM   #130
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i'm sorry but seeing this i can't consider anymore velstins arena as Top technological arena!
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Old January 11th, 2011, 09:10 PM   #131
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The construction was manged by the dutch company HBM!!!
You should know by now you cannot trust the Dutch

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Old January 17th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #133
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i'm sorry but seeing this i can't consider anymore velstins arena as Top technological arena!
After you been there you realize it is even a little outdated. The wall between field and tiers i too high, the acoustic and atmosphere is like a gym. The roof construction should be changed as well. The pitch can be pulled outside, but the quality is still bad.

I ve been to all stadiums of bundesliga in the past years, that is the one I dont like the most, although it looks nice on photo.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:40 AM   #134
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After you been there you realize it is even a little outdated. The wall between field and tiers i too high, the acoustic and atmosphere is like a gym. .

You're a moron, werkself! The wall between the pitch and the stands is 3,15 m, the pitch is about 1,50 m!
I've taken this pictures at the Champions League Final 2004, I don't like this wall aswell, but it is no problem for the spectators in the stadium:




I personally loved the atmosphere in this "gym" at this wonderful match:


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The roof construction should be changed as well. The pitch can be pulled outside, but the quality is still bad
You're right, Schalke has to think about new and stronger membrans!
The pitch is in a top condition, they changed it just a few months ago.
btw, the old pitch was the original WC pitch from 2006!

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Stay away next time, we won't miss you!
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Old January 17th, 2011, 08:21 PM   #135
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I personally loved the atmosphere in this "gym" at this wonderful match:
aaarrggghh!

I was in Germany that day watching Hamburg beat Mainz 1-0. Thanks to problems with the trains from the centre, I got to the stadium entrance just as the only goal of the game was scored. Somehow I just knew it would be the only goal too.

Bad enough, if it wasn't for the scoreboard flashing up yet another goal from that damn match every 5-10 minutes.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 12:48 AM   #136
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You're a moron, werkself! The wall between the pitch and the stands is 3,15 m, the pitch is about 1,50 m!
Tbf I agree that it's too high, should be ground level (with no fences of course)...
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Tbf I agree that it's too high, should be ground level (with no fences of course)...

I don't like this wall, but it is no problem for the spechtators in the stadium:
I took this picture (CL final 2004) from the bottom row:



At least Schalke does not need any ugly fences
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Old January 18th, 2011, 01:20 PM   #138
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Very beautiful this stadium.Nice and very good work
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Old February 5th, 2011, 03:25 PM   #139
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has the roff benn fixed?
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Old February 7th, 2011, 07:51 AM   #140
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has the roff benn fixed?
Not yet, it will be fixed at the end of winter (march).
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