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Old July 27th, 2019, 05:34 AM   #1441
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Old August 1st, 2019, 07:04 PM   #1442
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Singapore seems 50/50. Half jaw-dropping gorgeous, half Disney (still can't like the ocean liner in the sky lol).

Prediction -most futuristic city circa 2090 - Phoenix. Rising at last.
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Old August 7th, 2019, 10:55 PM   #1443
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Singapore is NOT Dubai or Disney. Please visit before labeling it at face value.

Don't forget Singapore is also riddled with old architecture, that forms the fabric of the city. Having visited a couple of years back I have to say the way
they mix old and new is very, very futuristic. Seriously impressive city, and contrary to stereotype it's definitely not sterile, and the people are very wayward
- just witness the amount of smokers lighting up around EVERY no smoking $1000 fine sign, the fashions, the food, the friendliness, the 24hr nightlife, markets,
religions, cultural mix, the start ups, the creativity, the sheer loudness of the people, this history and culture everywhere.


Singapore remains the most impressive city Ive visited, along with Paris and Vienna.












































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Old August 7th, 2019, 11:43 PM   #1444
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Singapore looks hands down the most futuristic and stunningly beautiful.
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Old August 7th, 2019, 11:43 PM   #1445
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It's not all just this, though SG does that amazingly too:



























To see how Singaporeans meld these heritage buildings with the luxury see here:

https://www.google.com/search?client...sY&ved=&uact=5

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Old August 8th, 2019, 12:34 PM   #1446
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That's almost futuristic in my book. It's not so much of modern skyscrapers and transportation modes or spaghetti like highways but a balanced holistic development that benefit everyone and address history, culture, environment, future growth and livability. I guess Singapore is almost there.
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Old August 9th, 2019, 10:05 AM   #1447
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Singapore is pretty much what you get with high education and low crime despite not having any resources, pretty much getting to become a perfect society in getting the balance right - for example getting the populace to behave in its anti-social tendencies while liberating it. You may be fined for littering or smuggling in chewing gum, but you also get to stagger home drunk at 4am, wearing a mini-skirt through the abject poorest district with complete safety every night. Driving a car may be effectively barred from you ($50,000 start-up in taxes), but you get cheap, reliable and inordinately accessible public transport, clean air and the best health in the world instead. It's that kind of trade-off.

worlds second highest wages at $90K
worlds best education system
worlds most efficient healthcare and longest life expectancy
1/5 of floorspace in certified Green buildings

This is the 'positive freedom' camp ('forced to be free' as opposed to be 'free to be free') - but not so much authoritarian or overtly engineered into marxism. This is due to it being balanced out by grass roots capitalism, and not so much the other way such as the feudalist, billionaire generating capitalism culminating everywhere else. Here much more people get a piece of the pie, rather than the 1% - one can compare the results in no-holds-barred city states like Hong Kong and NYC. Singapore now has 1/5 of its population as milllionaires and rising, and it shows in the way it's building everything.

Both sides benefit each other - its social protection and socialist policies (notably investment in education and poverty eradication) generate every higher incomes.



Perfect society? Maybe. But a gentle reminder, to get to this stage you have to endure generations of poverty, entire careers of hard labour etc, but without the temptations/ positive alleviation that crime can bring to otherwise fruitless lives. To instate this, it helps if you have a confucian society that is self-disciplined and adheres to social harmony, and that puts others before the self (which of course results in a whole new raft of social problems too).

The final fly on the pie is the fact Singapore is not like other nations. It's not enough that you have a hardworking, law abiding populace and invest in the people - you will still end up poor (as many Third World countries, who support the world's largest state investments in education, have found).

Singapore is lucky enough to be placed slap bang centre of the world's most strategic and largest trade route. Oh and it's a tax haven. All that money and investment that's built this gloryland is sucked from the surrounding region that would otherwise have benefited hundreds of millions of its poor - a giant parasite to SE Asia, similar to how Switzerland has functioned on Europe, and now the world.

In short, visit the place, enjoy that society, the freedom and the wonders it's built. But don't admire it. The world is a very similar to a pyramid scheme, SG just very luckily, very cannily, happens to be on top.

In terms of the future, SG may well be it, but we need a vast ocean of the underclass to draw from to build this summit. I'm hoping it will be technology and robots that provide this graft, clammering under the grate, rather than the ubiquitous billions of the indentured Global South.

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Old August 11th, 2019, 01:06 PM   #1448
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Singapore is what you get in fully authoritarian state, say it how it is.
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Old August 11th, 2019, 11:28 PM   #1449
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Singapore is authoritarian right (right in terms of economics), on par with a US under Hilary Clinton - but well below Trump/ Republicans.









However it is a decoupled version of left in terms of social policy, or communitarianism:





Basically authoritarian central-leftism (with right wing economics) - read: a political state for the middle classes. More here:

https://supermouse.blog/2019/08/09/t...rfect-society/

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Old August 17th, 2019, 05:43 PM   #1450
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Very futuristic in some structural ways but...

Singapore retains both corporal punishment (in the form of caning) and capital punishment (by hanging) as punishments for serious offences. For certain offences, the imposition of these penalties is mandatory. More than 400 people were executed in Singapore, mostly for drug trafficking, between 1991 and 2004.

Attempts were made last year to change the Singaporean laws which forbid two members of the same gender from being able to have sexual relations, but unfortunately the regulation still stands. The punishment for gay sex in Singapore is a two-year jail term.

Source: not always reliable Wiki

Hmm.. guess it poses the question what is futuristic? Maybe Singapore qualifies.
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Old August 18th, 2019, 09:37 AM   #1451
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Yep, it still has its draconian, Victorian laws (from the colonial era I may add) which they can impose when the political intrigue demands, such as closing down an establishment that's problematic in say drugs or STDs, noise complaints or just plain politicking over graft etc. Needless to say any prosecutions have been very rare.

The reality on the street is that its openly 'tolerated' by citizens and the law and you can openly express yourself in public. Which is why you'll find the usual plethora of gay bars, clubs, saunas, cafes, strip clubs, legal prostitution, online communities, newspapers, magazines, protest/ action groups and its own gay pride (Pink Dot), funded by the govt.

In short, as with much of Singapore, what goes on paper doesn't necessarily match reality.






















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Old September 2nd, 2019, 02:17 PM   #1452
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Old September 7th, 2019, 01:05 AM   #1453
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it's still a mix of Tokyo and Japan, and Scandinavia as society. Singapur is also a referent of good urbanism and trends in eco-design, but scandinavian countries have been setting and leading trends, for many decades so far, of how a future society and cities should look like.
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Old September 9th, 2019, 06:17 AM   #1454
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DISCUSS: Most Futuristic City

After visiting Western, Middle Eastern and Asian countries, I must say Singapore is the next best to perfection. If only the weather is more temperate, it would be perfect.

Scandinavian countries, they got plenty of lands and are sparsely populated. But Singapore, with that pathetic amount of lands available, densely populated and with shitty humid tropical climate, it's a gem that is hard to recreate. Hands down, the most balanced city in the world! We all know, those best living cities in the world ranking is so biased towards Western cities. And I am being objective here because I am from the neighbouring Malaysia and both Singaporeans and Malaysians can't stand each other =)

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Old September 17th, 2019, 04:14 AM   #1455
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Old September 17th, 2019, 12:36 PM   #1456
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Old September 24th, 2019, 08:53 PM   #1457
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Old September 30th, 2019, 03:15 PM   #1458
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Quote:
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It looks unreal, you got to love that. Looks like a screenshot which came out of Cyberpunk 2077. Mundo Mister
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Old October 7th, 2019, 07:05 PM   #1459
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Dubai might not be the most Futuristic but it sure ranks high up there with the big boys. In my opinion of course



















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truly, the first pic with Burj Khalifa in the far distance is awesome
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