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Juventus FC

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#98 ·
they can built a 3rd tier later
 
#104 ·
Juve has a "passive" following. People who do not really attend matches, but just say I follow a club just to be fashionable.

When you get less than 30,000 to home games I think it is laughable to suggest you could be considered to be one of Europe's biggest clubs.

It is proven in court just how Juve has achieved their "success". They should have been banished to the bottom of 4th division and their owners ordered to sell the club to more honest interests.
 
#106 ·
Juve has a "passive" following. People who do not really attend matches, but just say I follow a club just to be fashionable.

When you get less than 30,000 to home games I think it is laughable to suggest you could be considered to be one of Europe's biggest clubs.

It is proven in court just how Juve has achieved their "success". They should have been banished to the bottom of 4th division and their owners ordered to sell the club to more honest interests.
yes....

u just forgot that Juve is Italy and Europe history, anh half of the players of world cup final were from Juventus.

bah... u seems so "anti-juve" on principle.
 
#105 ·
What's all this talk about a huge "fanbase"? Yeah, they probably have one, too bad though that most of that fanbase is located hundreds of KMs south of Turin. Juve's never been a big draw in Turin, so a 35,000-40,000 venue is sufficient for that club.
 
#107 ·
it's not only South Italy.

it's also half Turin, and probably 1/3 of Milan. in Emilia-Romagna region (Bologna, Reggio Emilia, Parma among its cities), Juve fans represents a big percentage.

and it's incredible that also in cities where biggest rivals plays... i.e Florence, Rome) there's a huge Juve fanbase.

don't forget also 11M fans out of Italy.
 
#108 ·
But are they true fans? I mean big clubs like Bayern, Real, ManU etc. will always have sh*tloads of "fans" because they're successful clubs. These fans don't attend games though.
 
#109 ·
I think everybody should support their local teams
I respect,but don't understand people from Rome,Milan,Florence,etc supporting Juve or people from Torino that supports other teams outside.
it's just my poor way of thinking
I support my local team,last years we were in 3rd division,then the managers increased the debt and we now began restarting from the last division(7th division),but I continue to support my team everywhere and ever
:cheers:
 
#112 ·
Look, long term, taking a purely rationally business point of view to building Juventus as a seriously big football club, Milano is where they should be playing out of.

Sure it won't happen, but how is playing in front of 60 to 70k a home match bad compared to 20 to 30 you only get down the road in Turin?

Forget about history for a moment, in business which professional football actually is, why is it so difficult for people in Turin to just go to Milan to watch their team play and where the majority of their loyal fanbase(people who would actually go to matches) is actually located.

You get the better stadium, bigger corporations and larger supporter group. It is madness not to consider it if you are to stay competitive in the future.
 
#113 ·
The Italian league is dying on its arse. It's probably now even behind the German league (which has always been generally quite poor) in terms of quality, and far, far behind England and Spain.

I think a 40,000 stadium is more than adequate for a club like Juve. You only have to look at its attendance history to see that. Build it at 40,000 with the possibility of expansion. Simple.
 
#115 ·
The Italian league is dying on its arse. It's probably now even behind the German league (which has always been generally quite poor) in terms of quality, and far, far behind England and Spain.
I think world football is dead..not only italian one,cause of fifa and uefa masters.
european football is boring,I enjoy Argentina's league
England,Spain??German??:eek:hno:
 
#116 ·
no Euro 2012... juventus is now waiting for Italian Federation to decide if finance the rebuilding of the stadium with a new loan with a new, low interest rate.

Deadline.... December 2007.... :(

in the meantime, Turin's Delle Alpi rest unused. Juventus let host some music concerts (Vasco Rossi in July, The Police in October.... )
 
#117 ·
I won't comment on the level of Serie A play because that's in the eye of the beholder. However, I will say that, at some point, all these scandals have got to be tiring for us all. If there's one area that doesn't need all that drama (at least off the pitch) that would be football. But maybe that's the problem. So much is invested in the sport, in terms of emotion, controversy, etc., that it will always be vulnerable to irregularities. At least in Italy.

I would like to think there's a way to keep politics completely away from the sport. I have no ideas of how to do that.

Now, Delle Alpi...quite a waste of good building materials. And now Juve want to rectify what the city had done. What is their liquidity? What other assets do they have?
 
#122 ·
at 99% Juventus FC will build this stadium even if Italy lost the Euro 2012 bid. They agreed with The Cradito Sportivo a financement with a lower interest rate comparing to the market.

Credito Sportivo will finance also similar projects in Italy already finalized: new stadiums for Messina, Rome (for SS Lazio), Genoa (for Sampdoria) and Brescia.
 
#123 ·
That Stadio Delle Alpi is a bad stadium due to the athletics track. How come the new stadium plans don't include complete demolition of the Delle Alpi Stadium?
 
#126 ·
The average Juve attendance 1999-2006:

05-06 30 469
04-05 26 429
03-04 34 365
02-03 39 771
01-02 40 687
00-01 38 630
99-00 42 229

These numbers still look pretty decent compared to the embarassing attendances for some games between 2001-2003: 237 (Coppa Italia vs. Sampdoria), 399 (Coppa, Reggiana), 561 (another Coppa match)...

The first plan was for 35,000 seats only, but that raised protest among the fans...

http://bianconeri.tripod.com/dellealpi.html
 
#129 ·
It's a combination of many factors: they never felt at home there because of the distance to the pitch, bad views, distance to the city center. Besides that, a lot of the Juve fanbase is to be located not in Turin, but in the distant and poorer south, mainly Sicily. And there are always some "X-factors", that can have a positive or negative influence on stadium attendance. This new, compact stadium might just be one of those X-factors. Let's hope it will, and that the distances to the city center and/or to the regions where the fans are to be located do not prove crucial. When I see the last designs, in which Delle Alpi is destroyed, I see a possibility of expansion. Better to start at 40,000 now and expand in time, when attendance grows.
 
#135 ·
My error, I thought it was moved to Rome due to stadium repairs at Juve's normal ground.

It is great that all the top clubs are back in Serie A. It is still a great league. Better drama and off field goings on than a Mexican soap opera.
 
#137 ·
^^^^^^^^^^^^

In the 80's they could cram 60,000 in there. Mind you it was standing room.

They might have been better off digging down to get the stands closer to the pitch, like City of Manchester and added a level on the wings to the ground to take cap. to around 40,000.

This ground is closer to the city centre than the other place out in suburbia they are trying to redevelop.
 
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