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Old June 18th, 2006, 11:57 AM   #301
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Whats the capacity? Is it being built at the current stadium on the right hand side of the river?
capacity-55.000

I don't know
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Will the final be in Poland or Kiev if you get Euro 2012. I hope if you miss out on this Euro that you bid alone for the next Euro as Im sure Poland could organise an excellent tournament on its own.
I hope too
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I'm a Poland-Ukraine supporter, I think hosting Euro 2012 will be fantastic for both countries, and besides, those great looking stadium proposals must be built!
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Old June 18th, 2006, 04:39 PM   #303
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Poznań (Poland)




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Good God! Poland Ukraine offcourse, Not all designs are nice, but non of the two other venues can match. I do not know if Italy is planning to build any new stadiums for this EC. With the knowledge I have now Poland Ukraine fo'sure!
Croatia and Hungary do not have stadiums who do anything for me. Maybe they have planns to but I lack info at this moment. Maybe my opinion changes as more info get's public.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 04:51 PM   #305
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Poznan is nice yeah! Poland is booming at this moment!
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Old June 18th, 2006, 05:03 PM   #306
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Whats the capacity? Is it being built at the current stadium on the right hand side of the river?

Will the final be in Poland or Kiev if you get Euro 2012. I hope if you miss out on this Euro that you bid alone for the next Euro as Im sure Poland could organise an excellent tournament on its own.
I've read somewhere the final is to be played in Kiev, with the opening game in Warsaw. Personally, I think Poland organizers should have got the final, as it is richer than Ukraine and should take a leading role in this bid, or even try to bid alone.but it seems that Ukrainians took the leading role instead, even the idea of this bid came from ukrainian side, cause polish football authorities seem to not have initiative at all.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 06:31 PM   #307
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I'm rooting for Hungary/Croatia. Hungary's got a great football tradition and this sort of tournament might revitalize their national team.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 08:33 PM   #308
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i like italy because it has better infrastructure...
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Old June 18th, 2006, 10:42 PM   #309
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It's really hard to choose.

Italy has big stadiums and a good infrastructure, but the main problem is that the stadiums are old and just too big for a EURO, no way you can get the stadiums sold out. On the other hand, it's a nice time to make the stadiums smaller and modern, like the new Juve stadium. And of course Italy's long tradition of football and they're a nation that really lives for football (not talking about the Juve bribing incident).

Croatia/Hungary. Nice bid but bad infrastructure. Hungary has a good tradition but fell away long time ago, they were very good in the Puskas age. But; that's a long time ago. Nowadays they just suck. Period. Besides they have bad infrastructure and both still no EU members.

Poland/Ukraine. Beautiful stadiums, Poland is getting bigger and bigger in football but the extreme right winged hooligans are the main problem. I've read a Polish hooligan special in my Dutch newspaper a couple of weeks / months ago, it was really bad. Big picture with all of them skinheads with huge swastikas and such. Ukraine is politically really unstable at the moment and still too corrupted.

I guess my vote goes to Italy.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:20 AM   #310
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Not not not! Think from west stopping people that it bad country polish . Poles have showed on world cup that it is not necessary to fear their ! I not know that your newspaper write week ago but I know that about many german fans from polish held! I have great hope that UEFA and europe will trust us . It can be biggest in history world cup! Poles have showed beutifulfans have on that world cup .There was with ecuador on match 40 thousand fan. There was with germans on match 25 thousand polish fan . Biggest crowd of fan on world cup
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:39 AM   #311
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Besides they have bad infrastructure and both still no EU members.

Hungary joined the EU in May of 04 and Croatia will probably become an EU member in 2009, more than 3 years before this tournament is set to get under way.

Italy shouldn't get the Euro if they won't do some major renovation work. Most of the stadiums have a running track and quite a few of them look run-down.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:54 AM   #312
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I'll go for Croatia/Hungary as well although I'm not a big fan of joint bids. Italy has had many tournaments in the past and their stadiums from 1990 haven't aged well. Poland/Ukraine just doesn't appeal to me.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 02:26 PM   #313
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So far I did not see any stadiums of the Croation/Hungarian combination.
Let me put some in for you. I have got these from another thread on this forum.
Quite impressive. I have allready voted for Poland/Ukraine, because I am a fool for pictures and stuff, works with me, yep! That's why I thought it would be hounest to put some pictures of Hungary/Croatia on this thread to. Here we go.
Budapest
[IMG]http://i6.************/14vse3b.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i6.************/14vsefm.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14vsk5x.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14vsr2e.jpg[/IMG]

Debrecen (whereever that may be...)

[IMG]http://i6.************/14vtyzo.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14vtzph.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14vu1dg.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i6.************/14vu1k4.jpg[/IMG]

Fehervar (worldfamous didn't you know that?)
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w36o3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w36yp.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3ifm.jpg[/IMG]

Gyor
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[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3jte.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i6.************/14w3k1w.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i6.************/14w3lsy.jpg[/IMG]

Osijek
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3m75.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i6.************/14w3mes.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3mrq.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3n0z.jpg[/IMG]

Rijeka

[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3nef.jpg[/IMG]

Split
[IMG]http://i6.************/14w3os9.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i6.************/14w3oyt.jpg[/IMG]

Zagreb
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3p6w.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3pe8.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3pza.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.************/14w3qbm.jpg[/IMG]

This is all the info I have at this moment, but now I think the forumers have a choice because you can see something. I know nothing about Italy and new stadiums so if anyone does, please put the info in this thread.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 01:24 PM   #314
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film is the city Organization euro 2012 in Poland --> http://www.e2012.org/en/29_645.html
CHORZOW - http://www.e2012.org/bin/Chorzow_Euro2012.zip
GDANSK - http://www.e2012.org/bin/VTS_02_1.zip
POZNAN - http://www.e2012.org/bin/VTS_04_1.zip
KRAKOW - http://www.e2012.org/bin/VTS_03_1.zip
WARSZAWA - http://www.e2012.org/bin/VTS_05_1.zip
WROCLAW - http://www.e2012.org/bin/VTS_06_1.zip
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Old June 21st, 2006, 01:27 PM   #315
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can somebody wrote the capacities of the proposed stadiums?
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 02:45 PM   #316
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what kind of as ****ed up stadium would be build in budapest.. who designed that shit.
i'm going for poland & ukraine for sure..
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:05 PM   #317
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it is not that bad is it? for towers, pretty impressive (I don't know what the second stadium is doing there but well hell)
I have no idea who designed it, maybe it is on the other 'Hungarian/Croatian bid thread'
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:06 PM   #318
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I like the zagreb design very much
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:15 PM   #319
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EW!! That Budapest one is really awful.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:17 PM   #320
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[img]http://i5.************/14w3nef.jpg[/img]
That is AWESEME!
No Generic crap like we are seeing elswhere.
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