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Old November 28th, 2019, 01:08 AM   #541
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new rendering from atchain. Noticeable differences from the leaked model.

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Is this more likely to be a previous design or the actual one?

I think it's gorgeous.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 02:22 AM   #543
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The rendering is from this website: https://www.atchain.com/still/
The firm list Foster + Partners as clients.

Interesting to know if the rendering, or the models will be closer to the actual building.

This design is obviously simpler in design:
- no V-bracing.
- the top is moved closer to sixth avenue, following the off-center core of the building.
- the Park Avenue facade rises exponentially.
- there is a hint that the base might got rid of it's fanning columns.

This seems to be a more economical, less flamboyant version of the tower. Through the shift of the tower, following the central core, the client will still have large uninterrupted trading floors at the lower levels, but more conventional upper floors. Those upper floors may be better dividable and so better lease-able than those in the other version.

Still a classic, beautiful tower with an impressive height and mass. I will miss the bracing and fanning columns though. But who knows, what we'll get in the end.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 06:01 AM   #544
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The rendering is from this website: https://www.atchain.com/still/
The firm list Foster + Partners as clients.

Interesting to know if the rendering, or the models will be closer to the actual building.

This design is obviously simpler in design:
- no V-bracing.
- the top is moved closer to sixth avenue, following the off-center core of the building.
- the Park Avenue facade rises exponentially.
- there is a hint that the base might got rid of it's fanning columns.

This seems to be a more economical, less flamboyant version of the tower. Through the shift of the tower, following the central core, the client will still have large uninterrupted trading floors at the lower levels, but more conventional upper floors. Those upper floors may be better dividable and so better lease-able than those in the other version.

Still a classic, beautiful tower with an impressive height and mass. I will miss the bracing and fanning columns though. But who knows, what we'll get in the end.
Well, their site has a lot of other designs I haven't seen, and surely they don't have a hand in all of the below. So I'm skeptical.

Maybe a design put into contention that lost out?





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Old November 28th, 2019, 06:10 AM   #545
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the first two are visions for a PABT redevelopment and the last one is a vision for the Park Central Hotel.

Here we have something that bares a very close resemblance to what we've already seen. It's either a new iteration or an older one.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 06:13 AM   #546
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Really hope that's an early concept render. That design manages to lack literally every detail that made the leaked design beautiful- the X-bracing, the Art-Deco-inspired symmetry, the staggered floorplates, the copper trim. Even the famous fanning lobby columns are absent.

Also, it looks a lot like the design language of Foster's recent 50 Hudson Yards, which has me a bit scared that this is his actual design. I hope Foster&Associates built up from this design into the other one we saw earlier, and didn't regress from a great concept into a stripped back tower.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 08:01 AM   #547
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new rendering from atchain. Noticeable differences from the leaked model.
I prefer this design 1.000% more than the previous one.

It's way nicer.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 09:48 AM   #548
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^Me too, I actually like this one better.
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Old November 28th, 2019, 04:09 PM   #549
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it is very similar in form to Foster's other recent works in NYC.

http://fieldcondition.com/blog/2019/11/15/tour-100-e-53



https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-tour-...aza-1437672029

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It is really great that you can sit on the top floor of this building to drink coffee. I really like buildings like this!
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Old November 28th, 2019, 06:18 PM   #551
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I prefer this design 1.000% more than the previous one.



It's way nicer.

Agreed. This rendering disposes of the two elements I most disliked about the model we’ve already seen: the gigantic V-braces and bronze coloring. I also like the asymmetry, with the peak shifted closer to Madison; it opens up the view corridor looking up and down Park Ave.

My gut tells me the version from the model is closer to what we’ll see, but my fingers are crossed that this rendering is actually the real deal.
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Just from a 3D modelling standpoint, I just wanted to point out that this ATChain design would have been much easier to make- it's a simple vertical extrusion of a rectangular footprint, divided into several setbacks. The textures repeat per floor, and there is nothing fancy where it meets the street. Everything about this screams 'massing concept model' to me,but that's just my two cents
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Old November 29th, 2019, 02:48 PM   #553
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The rendering is from this website: https://www.atchain.com/still/
The firm list Foster + Partners as clients.

Interesting to know if the rendering, or the models will be closer to the actual building.

This design is obviously simpler in design:
- no V-bracing.
- the top is moved closer to sixth avenue, following the off-center core of the building.
- the Park Avenue facade rises exponentially.
- there is a hint that the base might got rid of it's fanning columns.

This seems to be a more economical, less flamboyant version of the tower. Through the shift of the tower, following the central core, the client will still have large uninterrupted trading floors at the lower levels, but more conventional upper floors. Those upper floors may be better dividable and so better lease-able than those in the other version.

Still a classic, beautiful tower with an impressive height and mass. I will miss the bracing and fanning columns though. But who knows, what we'll get in the end.
That's an old rendering. The model that Yimby disclosed is the latest version. It matches the leaked JPMC documents, and it matches the limited images to the base that JPMC presented to the City last spring.

Further, this website is filled with obsolete renderings like the old version of the Chicago Tribune Tower which resembles 432 Park and with proposals for the NY-NJ PA that will not be built.

I look forward to 1,425' of this.
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That's an old rendering. The model that Yimby disclosed is the latest version. It matches the leaked JPMC documents, and it matches the limited images to the base that JPMC presented to the City last spring.

Further, this website is filled with obsolete renderings like the old version of the Chicago Tribune Tower which resembles 432 Park and with proposals for the NY-NJ PA that will not be built.

I look forward to 1,425' of this.
Yeah thinking about again, you probably right.
A rendering designing firm wouldn't leak/ silently release a current design of their client through their own website.
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Old November 30th, 2019, 08:43 AM   #555
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new rendering from atchain. Noticeable differences from the leaked model.

This is really pretty! Hope this one wins.
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It’s an old rendering and is obsolete, like everything else on that site.
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 10:20 PM   #557
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Ha. Somebody needs to get on the phone with Atchain and tell them to stop leaking. This isn't the first time.

If I was at Foster's office I'd be pretty annoyed.

Maggie Qin is their point of contact for the North American market, maybe should drop her a line.

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What actually happens to all the building materials of the old building? Iirc, it had LEED certification so I'm assuming the building materials like glass and steel will be in good shape to be recycled or even reused?
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