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Old April 5th, 2019, 09:19 PM   #181
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Side note I love that long beach state's mascot is the dirtbbag!
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Several weeks ago the Post filed a public records request with the city for any renderings, drawings or images of the stadium. The city has acknowledged the records exist but that legal counsel is currently determining if they may be disclosed.

But any deal reached by the Angels, in Anaheim or in Long Beach, is expected to include more than just a baseball stadium. In order to attract investors, it would also likely include commercial and housing. Last month the Post reported that local luxury housing developer Frank Suryan Jr. has been a key player in the negotiations.

City spokesman Kevin Lee said in an email Thursday that since negotiations between the city and the Angels have commenced, the city is unable to discuss particulars of the deal. He said any proposed project would be discussed openly at a City Council meeting “at an appropriate time.”

A decision whether the Angels stay in Anaheim or move to Long Beach is expected soon, those involved in the negotiations from both cities have said.
https://lbpost.com/news/long-beach-a...ngels-stadium/
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Old April 6th, 2019, 06:02 PM   #183
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If they are talking about tearing down the arena, then they sound serious. That would make substantial room available. The arena would be missed but it is old and having a new stadium available from October to March would take up some of the slack for exhibitions, etc.

The luxury housing would be an interesting addition. The area can go either toward quite attractive or toward quite busy (downtown LB has both). And the press coverage of a new stadium, MLB team and luxury waterfront housing could make for a lot of LB buzz.

Of course, Anaheim may have gotten the message by now and become more reasonable in its terms.
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Old May 15th, 2019, 08:10 AM   #184
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Long Beach estimates Angels stadium could cost more than $1 billion, documents show

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Old May 15th, 2019, 05:04 PM   #185
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So is it the land or the stadium that will cost that much? I never understood how we got here. Weren't most stadiums costing 600 Million a few years ago?
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Old May 15th, 2019, 09:41 PM   #186
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Come on Angels! Please move to Long Beach! i just bought a home there. I want to see my values shoot up!
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Old May 16th, 2019, 08:48 PM   #187
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So is it the land or the stadium that will cost that much? I never understood how we got here. Weren't most stadiums costing 600 Million a few years ago?
Yes and yes. And yes.
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Old May 16th, 2019, 08:59 PM   #188
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So is it the land or the stadium that will cost that much? I never understood how we got here. Weren't most stadiums costing 600 Million a few years ago?
Both, I imagine. I can’t imagine building cost more than $600M.
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Old May 17th, 2019, 02:04 AM   #189
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Well, if you want to get protection from union and environmental lawsuits stopping the project, you will have to "donate" 200M plus to some "mitigation of environmental damage" (that is, the pet project of some member of the Democratic leadership).

The Clippers are going through that process now.
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As an end-of-the-year decision deadline draws closer, Angels baseball officials have brought more experts on board to advise them on the potential to develop land around Anaheim’s stadium.

Anaheim City Manager Chris Zapata announced the news in an update to the City Council on Tuesday, June 4.

Angels President John Carpino told city officials that “Anaheim is their focus” right now, and the team has hired an architect, engineer and financial adviser to its consulting team, which is led by development firm Brooks Street, Zapata told the council, following a May 20 meeting with Carpino and other team officials.

“That’s all extremely positive,” Zapata told the council.

City officials have said they expect a new lease with their stadium’s longtime tenants would be patterned after a 2018 deal made with the Anaheim Ducks to develop land around Honda Center. Developing some of the 155-acre Angel Stadium property could generate millions to renovate or rebuild the 53-year-old venue.

Angels spokeswoman Marie Garvey confirmed in a phone interview that the development team has been expanded, but declined to name specific hires.

The move doesn’t mean the Angels have ruled out other options, such as relocating to Long Beach, Garvey said.

But with a deadline to notify Anaheim in December whether they’ll stay or go, “our focus needs to be on Anaheim to determine if a new lease is possible,” she said, adding, “Long Beach doesn’t have a deadline.”
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Old June 5th, 2019, 05:50 PM   #191
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Sounds like the process is working.

This is interesting to compare to Oakland, which has been looking to find an investor to develop the area around the Coliseum for a decade and now is looking around Jack London Sq. But it sounds like the Angels are willing to consider funding their own development and that Anaheim might put more money and political support into the process than Oakland is doing.

Of course, the Angels had double the A's attendance last year so it's easier to get enthusiastic about the overall economics.
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The size and scope of LT Global Investments' much-anticipated $500M LT Platinum Center project in Anaheim may hinge on what kind of agreement the city strikes with the owner of the Anaheim Angels, city officials said.

LT Global has yet to break ground on the massive mixed-use project next to Angel Stadium and in the city's Platinum Triangle area.

There is a chance, depending on what kind of agreement comes out of negotiations between the Angels and the city, that LT Global may acquire some of the city-owned land adjacent to the project, Anaheim Mayor Harry Sidhu told Bisnow Thursday before he spoke to more than a 150 commercial real estate professionals at Bisnow's Orange County State of the Market event.

"LT Platinum is part of the ongoing discussions with the Angels," Sidhu said.

Sidhu did not discuss specifics. It is unclear under what circumstances LT Global would acquire the city-owned land and whether that hinges on the Angels leaving or staying on-site.

An email to an LT Global official was not returned by press time.

The Angels and the city are currently in the midst of discussing ways for the team to remain at the city-owned, 150-acre Angel Stadium site long term.

The Angels opted out of their lease agreement last year but signed a one-year lease extension to remain in the stadium through the 2020 season to allow time to negotiate with the city.

The Angels and the city have been trying to come up with a plan to pay for the estimated $200M worth of basic improvements that the fourth-oldest stadium in Major League Baseball needs. Angel Stadium opened in 1966.

Many experts expect Anaheim's deal with the Angels could look similar to the one the city made with the owners of the Anaheim Ducks. Anaheim sold three city-owned parking lots totaling 16 acres around the arena in exchange for the hockey franchise remaining in the city until as late as 2073.

Sidhu did not answer more questions about the ongoing negotiations with the Angels. Sidhu said to expect the Angels to remain in Anaheim and for a resolution in the coming months.
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Old June 18th, 2019, 07:17 AM   #193
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A bit vague; my guess is that means that the economics are OK but nothing special. But that's why you hold talks: to see if you can get something that works for everybody.
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Old June 21st, 2019, 02:33 PM   #194
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Anaheim Stadium under construction 1964 -1966



(ca. 1964) - Aerial view of the Anaheim Stadium site post-groundbreaking, but prior to construction, image shows view looking north, with orange groves in foreground and background.
Historical Notes...The stadium was built on a parcel of about 160 acres of flat land originally used for agricultural purposes in the southeast portion of Anaheim.



(1965) - Aerial view of the Anaheim Stadium construction site from February 1965 with landmarks labeled.
Historical Notes. Consistent with many major-league sports stadiums built in the 1960s, Anaheim Stadium is located in a suburban area, though one that is host to major tourist attractions.


(1965)Aerial view showing the framework of the new stadium at Anaheim. At the top of photo is the Santa Ana Freeway with Orange Drive-in Theatre at top-center. Photo date: June 11, 1965



(1965) Concrete is being poured during construction of Anaheim Stadium. The stadium was 21% completed when this image was taken on April 23, 1965.
Historical Notes...Over a 20 month construction period, Del Webb's construction workers poured 42,000 cubic yards of concrete, laid 7 million pounds of reinforcing steel and 8 million pounds of structure steel, and installed 1,900 light bulbs


(ca. 1966) Aerial view of Anaheim Stadium close to completion. All the lights are up and the parking lot is completely striped.



(1966) Anaheim Stadium — the new home of the California Angels — opens on April 9, 1966 with an exhibition game against the San Francisco Giants. The Giants won 9-3 in front of 40,735 paid fans. The American League home opener in Anaheim Stadium was on April 19, 1966, against the Chicago White Sox.
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LAPD detective accused of secretly recording men in Angel Stadium restroom

A Los Angeles police detective has been charged with allegedly making secret recordings inside a men's restroom at Angel Stadium while off duty last month.

Ryan Caplette, 42, of Torrance, faces 75 misdemeanor counts of disorderly conduct — 37 counts of peeping with intent to invade privacy, 37 counts of secretly videotaping and one count of loitering — according to the Anaheim Police Department.

A man noticed Caplette filming him inside the restroom June 8 and placed him under citizen’s arrest, police said.

Caplette was cited and released, but a search of his recording device revealed dozens of additional victims, including 37 in the Angel Stadium restroom and others at undisclosed locations in Los Angeles, according to investigators.
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Old July 12th, 2019, 07:02 AM   #196
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This is the first story that I've read that says that a new build is the more likely outcome over another renovation for the Angels.

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Whichever city the Angels end up choosing for their new stadium, the designs will likely include more than just a new ballpark.

In a May opinion piece in the Orange County Register, Anaheim Mayor Harry Sidhu vowed that if the project ends up in Anaheim it would include elements that would benefit the city’s tax base outside of sports-related events.

“Our theme parks, sports venues and convention center are a matter of pride,” Sidhu wrote. “But their real purpose is to serve residents by generating revenue for public safety, parks, libraries and community centers and by helping us keep taxes and fees low.”

A new stadium complex for the Angels could include construction of hotels, restaurants, office space and residential units much like other developments across the United States. In the Spring 2019 edition of Anaheim Magazine the city pointed to LA Live; the soon-to-open complex outside of Dallas, Texas recently completed for the Texas Rangers; and the new home of the NBA’s Sacramento Kings, Golden 1 Center.

Sidhu also wrote that the city would likely not lease the land to the Angels for $1 per year as it had under the previous lease agreement, one that saw the city net less than $1 million in revenue annually since the 2009-2010 season.
https://lbpost.com/news/anaheim-long...future-stadium
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Could the city of Anaheim kick the Angels out of their stadium next year if the two sides fail to agree on a new lease?

As it turns out, no.

Councilman Jose Moreno was surprised to hear that. At Tuesday’s Anaheim City Council meeting, Moreno said the one-year lease extension the council approved in January did not mean the current lease would expire when the extension does.

As a result, the Angels have three options on the table, not two. In addition to choosing between a new or renovated stadium in Anaheim or a proposed waterfront ballpark in Long Beach, the Angels could simply play out their current Angel Stadium lease, which extends through 2029.

That last option effectively reduces the city’s leverage, since it cannot threaten to kick out the Angels after the 2020 season and sell the stadium property.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story...stadium-search
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Old August 15th, 2019, 06:25 PM   #198
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Great vintage photos. Think of all the cars that would be ruined right over the outfield wall in these days with the "Juiced" baseballs and all. I love this stadium stuff.
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If the Angels move out of Anaheim, then they'll have to change their name to "Los Angeles Angels of [Whichever Southland City They Move To]".

That will be good for a laugh.
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If the Angels move out of Anaheim, then they'll have to change their name to "Los Angeles Angels of [Whichever Southland City They Move To]".

That will be good for a laugh.
That's an interesting point. I haven't heard if Long Beach has any concerns about that, but I would guess that Anaheim is the only local city that has delusions of being a major national city.

If the Angels move, they are down to the hockey Ducks and have no major colleges so the sports cupboard is pretty bare.
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