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Old July 17th, 2019, 04:00 AM   #13521
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Wilmotte & Associés: How much Football Pitches do you want?

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(My gosh do they really need that many?)
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I agree that Paris can be dirty but it's a relatively kind problem to have. Dirt can be cleaned after all and Paris wouldn't be the first city to clean itself up.


Rome has serious problems on this moment you know
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Old July 17th, 2019, 06:32 PM   #13523
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I found Berlin far more dusty and dirty than Paris, but maybe I was in the wrong areas. Paris is much cleaner than it was years ago, people are picking up doggie doodoo more often.
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Old July 18th, 2019, 08:11 PM   #13524
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I still think there's too much graffiti in Paris, even in the most expensive parts of the city.
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Old July 18th, 2019, 08:37 PM   #13525
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The problem of Paris is that a lot of people came there whithout the wish to respect the city.
The political leftist team is responsible to have let this city becoming what it is today.
Leftists/socialists have let the rap graffitis culture invades this town during 80’s with a national socialism culture program.
Only Montmartre could defines what traditional Paris is.
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Old July 19th, 2019, 09:20 AM   #13526
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The problem of Paris is that a lot of people came there whithout the wish to respect the city.
The political leftist team is responsible to have let this city becoming what it is today.
Leftists/socialists have let the rap graffitis culture invades this town during 80’s with a national socialism culture program.
Only Montmartre could defines what traditional Paris is.
This kind of well-balanced, utterly objective comment, backed with actual and concrete data is by itself the justification of the value the internet can add to the long-living legacy of human genius.


Not to mention the accuracy in depicting Paris' recent political timeline (who here can say that the Chirac then Tibery administrations of Paris were anything else than pure leftism?).
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Old July 19th, 2019, 11:08 AM   #13527
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Two new luxury stores opened their doors on the Champs-Elysées this month with the arrival of Dior (as a temporary flagship while the main one is under renovation for 2 years) at 127 avenue des Champs-Élysées and Chanel at the number 52 of the avenue.

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A high-fashion move has taken place. From Avenue Montaigne to the Champs-Élysées, the house of Dior is bringing a piece of its history with it to its new location. Opened on July 15, the new Dior boutique finds itself situated on one of the most beautiful avenues in the world. Embark on the Vogue Paris guided tour below.

Comprised of three levels, and designed around a ribbon-like spiral staircase, the newest Dior boutique combines both heritage with architectural ingenuity. The tone is set from the store's exterior, featuring an ode to 30 Avenue Montaigne, Mr. Dior's mansion currently under renovation. In an identical reproduction, using a giant handmade drape, the store's facade echoes Mr. Dior's former home to a tee. [...]
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A guided tour of Chanel’s new beauty store on the Champs-Élysées

Having recently opened a pop-up beauty store, Chanel has opened the doors of its first boutique dedicated to the brand’s beauty products, right in the heart of the Champs-Elysées. The store features a beauty consultation station, and some brand-new products which are exclusive to the store. Take the guided tour of this new beauty lover’s hotspot.

On July 13, Chanel opened a brand-new boutique dedicated to beauty and cosmetics, located at number 52, on the avenue des Champs-Elysées, right next to Galeries Lafayette. The 100m2 space features a makeup studio, perfumes, skincare and exclusive products. [...]
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Old July 19th, 2019, 12:47 PM   #13528
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Not to mention the accuracy in depicting Paris' recent political timeline (who here can say that the Chirac then Tibery administrations of Paris were anything else than pure leftism?).

The left of jack lang is responsible for spreading the "on fait ce qu'on veut" culture!
No need to have a left mayor during the 80's because the socialist president and his ministre of culture have done the job by imposing to the whole country the laxism we know today.
Why do you want to deny?
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Old July 19th, 2019, 04:35 PM   #13529
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I still think there's too much graffiti in Paris, even in the most expensive parts of the city.
A constructive critic from my humble opinion : depite the city stills has got some glitz and glamour, it becomes a shy shadow when it compares to modern and somehow (by the media) uglier London.Dirty graffitis, homeless sleeping next to rubbish in important monuments and supposedly important areas,unsafeness, uncleaned facades and underdeveloped buildings for an AA+ city, lack of lighting, dull on the streetsides and not so exciting.This doesn't match the real Parisian beauty.I hope the city looks forward to the future and really makes a brighting comeback to the great ciy it was half a century ago-and is yet,but not on the AA+ level-. Love Paris anyway.
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Old July 19th, 2019, 06:52 PM   #13530
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The left of jack lang is responsible for spreading the "on fait ce qu'on veut" culture!
No need to have a left mayor during the 80's because the socialist president and his ministre of culture have done the job by imposing to the whole country the laxism we know today.
Why do you want to deny?
Please man, stop embarassing yourself everywhere on this forum, it becomes even embarassing for others to see someone having such a low self-esteem behaviour!
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Old July 19th, 2019, 08:23 PM   #13531
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Please man, stop embarassing yourself everywhere on this forum, it becomes even embarassing for others to see someone having such a low self-esteem behaviour!
Please stop to talk for yourself! you have no clue about the situation in France!
I won't post some pics of what happens in certain Parisians areas!

I don't even know if you have gone just one day in France.
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Old July 19th, 2019, 08:28 PM   #13532
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I still think there's too much graffiti in Paris, even in the most expensive parts of the city.
Paris is a city of freedom. It's a strong part of its identity: revolutions in 1789, 1830, 1848, Paris Commune in 1871, Popular Front in the 1930'ss, students and workers demonstrations in 1968. You can't expect the place to ever become Singapore.

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Only Montmartre could defines what traditional Paris is.
It's always funny to hear what outsiders imagine of the city. Montmartre is the most artificial place in Paris. The place is entirely dedicated to tourism nowadays. For Parisians it feels a bit like a theme park.

Paris has always been an open city, valuing freedom of expression, emancipation of people. It has always been multi-cultural as well, it was already in the 19th century and even before. It just never stopped.

If you regret the Paris of Edith Piaf, Charles Aznavour and Serge Gainsbourg, you forget Piaf had Italian and Algerian parents, Aznavour had Armenian parents and Gainsbourg had Russian Jewish parents. They've grown up in a place which was a lot more dirty than the Paris we know today.

Those saying Paris degenerates just don't know anything about the history, culture and identity of the city. As a matter of fact, I would say what disturbs people is how the city strong identity prevails despite the slick and sterilized world globalization is heading us to. Paris remains stubbornly free.

It's not the European city hosting the largest muslim community, the largest jewish community, the largest Chinese community and the largest African community for nothing. We're free and if that pisses off others, so be it.
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It's always funny to hear what outsiders imagine of the city. Montmartre is the most artificial place in Paris. The place is entirely dedicated to tourism nowadays.
Sorry for you but it's a part of parisian perception

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Old July 19th, 2019, 10:07 PM   #13534
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Excuse me but I totally disagree with this, a city of freedom doesn't imply uncivilized behaviours that make a city look like it was in decadence, when economically it is not. I'm not gonna ask for tycoon style projects everywhere in Paris,but a clean and exciting city that you know everything right can happen.Amsterdam,Hamburg,Frankfurt,Zurich...
You said "We have the largest african and muslim community in Europe" , yes for the better and for the worst, all is there.The city has become unsafe,dirty and dark.And that is not just about freedom , is about education, about the image the city gives to the world.Our freedom ends where the other's begins. Let's remember that¡
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Old July 20th, 2019, 12:03 AM   #13535
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Indeed, the city much more dirty to see really unlivable in neighborhoods predominantly African Maghreb and sub-Saharan. "Barbès, chateau rouge, chateau d'eaur", does not appear on the tourist guides, nor in the districts appreciated by the Parisians. They are dirty during the day, people have so little European education that they throw everything anywhere, respect nothing and create a climate of anxiety. with such a neighborhood atmosphere, rents are lower than elsewhere in the private ... the city does nothing to gentrify this populace in the suburbs, worse it houses them in (low-rent housing).
Thefts and assaults are as frequent as in the northern suburbs. in the absence of a dilapidated bar and tower, the public authorities have still not understood that this population wherever it is in towers or Parisian buildings with streets and shops systematically creates disorder but the current mayor encourages the spread of these problems by multiplying the HLM (low-rent housing in all Paris including in the beautiful districts spared by populations with problem which had known to create the art of living in Parisian renown in the whole world. Secured and secure by the educated and sociologically close population, which has allowed the emergence of an atmosphere specific to each district and borough, from the bohemian artist, to the student, to the trendy shopping and luxury district with a more family atmosphere. from the small bourgesoisie to the upscale neighborhood of the big bourgeoisie, Paris in all its facets.
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Indeed, the city much more dirty to see really unlivable in neighborhoods predominantly African Maghreb and sub-Saharan.
Wow, once again...
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Old July 20th, 2019, 10:51 AM   #13537
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You was not in France yesterday night Bat53 ? France was like Algeria is it your country or a colony of Algeria ?
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I am truly sorry for those who are actually interested in the current projects of the city that we can't overflow those heated debates with more updates. Unfortunately, it seems that people are more motivated to discuss about politics and social issues rather than architecture.
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L'Archipel (Vinci Headquarters)

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Location : Nanterre

Status : Under construction

Estimated completion : 2021

Type : Office

Floor area : 74 000 m²

Height : 106 m

Architects : Jean-Paul Viguier / Marc Mimram







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Location : Nanterre, Préfecture

Status : Under construction

Estimated completion : 2021

Type : Office, residential

Floor area : 81 300 m²

Architects : Maud Caubet / Quadrifiore architecture







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