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View Poll Results: Which country will host 2032 Summer Olympics?
Australia (Brisbane or Melbourne) 46 18.33%
Colombia (Bogota) 13 5.18%
Egypt (Cairo) 6 2.39%
India (New Delhi or Mumbai) 20 7.97%
Indonesia (Jakarta) 40 15.94%
Korea (Pyongyang – Seoul) 16 6.37%
Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur) 8 3.19%
Morocco (Casablanca) 7 2.79%
New Zealand (Auckland) 11 4.38%
Qatar (Doha) 7 2.79%
Singapore (Singapore) 17 6.77%
South Africa (Johannesburg or Capetown or Durban) 30 11.95%
Thailand (Bangkok) 15 5.98%
UAE (Abu Dhabi or Dubai) 15 5.98%
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Old September 20th, 2018, 04:26 PM   #1
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2032 Summer Olympics / Games of the XXXV Olympiad bids




Since the host city of 2024 and 2028 Summer Olympic Games was selected to Paris and Los Angeles on the 31th July in 2017 ,
the venue of 2032 Summer Olympic Games is likely to be held in one of the continents of Africa, Asia, Oceania, and South America.

Therefore, the cities of North and Central America and Europe were excluded from the list of candidates.

Above mentioned countries are likely to have a interest to host 2032 Summer Olympic Games.
Of course, some countries may not be interested in hosting the 2032 Summer Olympics.
Anyway , it is no doubt that the countries included in the voting group must be potential candidates.
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India claims it will bid for 2032 Olympic Games (2018.04.21)

Indian Olympic Association (IOA) President Narinder Batra has claimed the country will bid for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games,
along with the 2026 Summer Youth Olympics and the 2030 Asian Games.



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Indonesia to bid for 2032 Olympics (2018.09.01)

"Indonesia will bid to host the 2032 Summer Olympics",
President Joko Widodo said Saturday following its successful staging of the 18th Asian Games.

Widodo said the Asian Games, hosted in the cities of Jakarta and Palembang over the past two weeks,
have proved the country has the ability to host the world's most prestigious multi-sports event.

"Indonesia has planned to immediately register itself as a candidate for the 2032 Olympics host," he said,
after talks with International Olympic Committee (IOC) president Thomas Bach and the head of the Olympic Council of Asia.

"With our experience in hosting the 18th Asian Games, I believe Indonesia will be able to host (an) event at larger scale," Widodo added.

Bach, who is expected to attend Sunday's closing ceremony, welcomed the announcement and said
the Asian Games had been "very impressive".

"I could congratulate the president on the great success of the Asian Games which is very impressive," said Bach.

"Therefore the IOC really appreciates the candidature of Indonesia for the Olympic Games in 2032," he added.



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Old September 21st, 2018, 04:09 AM   #4
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A couple of comments.

Aren't Germany and potentially other Europe countries looking to bid?

Given that we are talking about 14 years from now, a lot could change. In particular, the Korea situation could be dramatically different. If not, how could anyone support a bid with N. Korea involved?

This will be a great opportunity to see how many countries will look objectively at their situations and follow the guidelines which the IOC has formulated for potential hosts. Only 1 can win for 2032 and one for 2036. The IOC will probably try to winnow down the serious candidates to 2 or 3 for 2032 (with perhaps another selected for 2036) so as to avoid huge wastes of time, money and public support by having a dozen losers who incur millions each in the process.
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A couple of comments.

Aren't Germany and potentially other Europe countries looking to bid?

Yes, they are looking for bid. Whatever if they choose a country for 2032 Olympics. They will chosen. They will decide later.
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Yes, they are looking for bid. Whatever if they choose a country for 2032 Olympics. They will chosen. They will decide later.
I don't think any European country will be seriously bidding for 2032, maybe 2036 or 2040. Remember 2024 is in Europe, ideally Asia/Australia or Africa will be the likely winner in 2032/36.
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Shanghai hints at making a bid for the 2032 Olympics
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Shanghai aspires to the same sporting status as Olympics hosts Tokyo and Paris, and staging the Summer Games would be “the highest ideal,” a top cadre in the city said on Wednesday.

Shanghai’s deputy director general of sports told reporters in a media briefing that officials in the city would be taking a keen interest in how Tokyo and Paris fare with the Summer Games in 2020 and 2024.


“It’s not the first time these cities have held the Olympic Games. They have a lot of experience” in hosting the mega event, said Luo Wenhua of the Shanghai sports administration, noting that his city would have a lot to learn from Tokyo and Paris. However, he stopped short of committing to an Olympics bid.


“I think the next step should be to strengthen communication and let us learn from them,” he told Agence France-Presse and reporters from other international media outlets.


Shanghai already hosts several major annual sporting events including a Formula One race, men’s and women’s golf, Diamond League athletics and the Shanghai Masters tennis, which is only one rung below grand slams and the ATP Finals.


The city has unveiled an aggressive blueprint to be a globally renowned destination for mega events and MICE (meetings, incentives, conferences and exhibitions) tourism by 2025.


Luo named Tokyo, Paris, Los Angeles, London and New York as cities he would like Shanghai to emulate. Only New York has never hosted an Olympics and, after 2008, Beijing was on track to become the only city on the planet to host both Summer and Winter Olympics.


It seems almost inevitable that Shanghai will one day make its bid, given the well-known penchant of Chinese cadres for sports extravaganza and fanfare events to elevate the international stature of their cities. The next available Summer Games slot is 2032.


However, the Shanghai official stressed that any decision to make such a bid would down to China’s central government.


Being the largest city in China as measured by population, built-up area and economic output, today’s Shanghai possesses all the makings of an Olympic host city.


A metropolis of 25 million residents, Shanghai’s gross domestic product has expanded by 6.9% to break the 3 trillion yuan (US$440 billion) mark. That figure puts Shanghai among the world’s top 10 cities with the largest GDP, according a report by Oxford Economics.


The city also boasts an extensive metro network of 644 kilometers, second to none worldwide, and its two airports handled a combined passenger throughput of 112 million in 2017. Excluding fiscal income handed over to the central government, the Shanghai government recorded a total income of 664 billion yuan last year.


Shanghai shelled out some $45 billion on Expo 2010 – a six-month-long bash attended by more than 200 countries and regions – outspending the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games by at least $5 billion.
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Old November 14th, 2018, 04:50 PM   #8
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Shanghai hints at making a bid for the 2032 Olympics
http://www.atimes.com/article/shangh...2032-olympics/
Well, that sounds like a solid job of government puffery with the author having little clue what he is talking about.

I'm glad that Chinese cities are endless and enormous. And that the Central Government will decide which city can bid. And that Beijing wants to be the first to host both a summer and winter games; and that NYC hasn't done either one (so they are just a loser, I suppose).

But the IOC standards are now supposed to consider popular support (you know, how do the people actually living in those cities feel about it); facilities in place; minimum expenditures. Not a showcase for another authoritarian government.

China will undoubtedly put together a great bid; but I would sure like to see the tone change to one that is about the Olympics, not about China.
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why buenos aires isn't in the poll?
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why buenos aires isn't in the poll?
Maybe because they haven't decided on making a bid? Or has there been some recent announcement?
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why buenos aires isn't in the poll?
Actually, they already went to Rio de Janerio 2016 Olympics.
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China will undoubtedly put together a great bid; but I would sure like to see the tone change to one that is about the Olympics, not about China.
Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot.
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Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot.
Nice post! I like that. Short, no odd assertions or faulty arguments. Keep it up!
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Melbourne!

It’s a rare thing for a city to have so much sporting infrastructure so close to a city centre.

I really think the like of the Olympics, World Cup etc are going to have a LOT more focus on cities that can sustain the infrastructure built for the few weeks the event is on.

With the political corruption surrounding Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022, the blowout budgets of Rio 2016, the unused venues of Rio and Athens etc it’s going to be more important than ever to be able to meet the following.

A) Be sustainable both in repurposing/expanding existing venues and building fewer venues solely for the events.

B) Have the capacity AFTER the event to continue using the spaces that are built.

C) Have the nation on board. If the cost of these events is now $10+ billion people dont want to see that spent on overpriced stadiums that are used twice. More investment will turn to improve the host city as a whole FOR the event which will have a continued benefit after the closing ceremonies.

D) have a current living standard that can afford to divert $10+ billion into the event without leaving the people missing out on critical infrastructure.

Very few cities can realistically do this.

Europe: London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Istanbul, Barca, Madrid

North America:NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, Any of the Texas big boys or Toronto.

The Middle East: Dubai is the only real candidate here, Many cities can obviously afford to build everything from scratch, but with the scandal and human rights abused in Qatar and the situation in Saudi Arabia the games could easily get overshadowed by negative press and the temperature for events like marathon etc just wouldn't cut it.

India: Definitely the population to fill stadiums post event but after the abysmal leadup and execution of Delhi 2010 Commonwealth games its proof there is a LOT that needs doing to bring Indian cities up to Olympic standards.

Asia: Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul are good candidates but with Tokyo hosting in 2020 they might be lower on the list.

African bids will be a push. South Africa got the WC in 2010 purely as a "give everyone a turn" kind of thing. and it has not benefited the country in any major way. With so many other things for a government to spend money on, it's not feasible to spend so much on a two-week event.

Australia: Melbourne and Sydney are the only real candidates here while many will say "bringing the Olympics to Brisbane will boost it on the world stage" it really won't.

The Olympics are no longer about presenting a city to the world, Everyone has the internet, there are easier ways to launch a city to a global audience.

If you get the Olympics and can't pull them off to the same or better level of the previous event the city becomes known for its failure. Look at Athens.

While Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane have often bene grouped together, Sydney and Melbourne have moved leaps and bounds ahead of Brisbane in the last two decades and they are very much in different leagues now.

Sydney and Melbourne will have far superior transport networks by the mid 2020s just with projects already in motion now.

Melbourne has arguably the most state of the art sports precinct right in the city centre anywhere in the world.

Brisbane would need to build a lot of facilities, likely on the city fringes. Melbourne has large former industrial zones right in the central core for anything that needs to be built.

Both Sydney and Melbourne have hosted in the past, Sydney will not get it again for decades. Melbourne not hosted in 60 years so ripe for another shot.

I just can’t see Brisbane beating Melbourne to a legitimate bid if it was to go forward.
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Melbourne!

ItÂ’s a rare thing for a city to have so much sporting infrastructure so close to a city centre.

I really think the like of the Olympics, World Cup etc are going to have a LOT more focus on cities that can sustain the infrastructure built for the few weeks the event is on.

With the political corruption surrounding Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022, the blowout budgets of Rio 2016, the unused venues of Rio and Athens etc itÂ’s going to be more important than ever to be able to meet the following.

A) Be sustainable both in repurposing/expanding existing venues and building fewer venues solely for the events.

B) Have the capacity AFTER the event to continue using the spaces that are built.

C) Have the nation on board. If the cost of these events is now $10+ billion people dont want to see that spent on overpriced stadiums that are used twice. More investment will turn to improve the host city as a whole FOR the event which will have a continued benefit after the closing ceremonies.

D) have a current living standard that can afford to divert $10+ billion into the event without leaving the people missing out on critical infrastructure.

Very few cities can realistically do this.

Europe: London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Istanbul, Barca, Madrid

North America:NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, Any of the Texas big boys or Toronto.

The Middle East: Dubai is the only real candidate here, Many cities can obviously afford to build everything from scratch, but with the scandal and human rights abused in Qatar and the situation in Saudi Arabia the games could easily get overshadowed by negative press and the temperature for events like marathon etc just wouldn't cut it.

India: Definitely the population to fill stadiums post event but after the abysmal leadup and execution of Delhi 2010 Commonwealth games its proof there is a LOT that needs doing to bring Indian cities up to Olympic standards.

Asia: Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul are good candidates but with Tokyo hosting in 2020 they might be lower on the list.

African bids will be a push. South Africa got the WC in 2010 purely as a "give everyone a turn" kind of thing. and it has not benefited the country in any major way. With so many other things for a government to spend money on, it's not feasible to spend so much on a two-week event.

Australia: Melbourne and Sydney are the only real candidates here while many will say "bringing the Olympics to Brisbane will boost it on the world stage" it really won't.

The Olympics are no longer about presenting a city to the world, Everyone has the internet, there are easier ways to launch a city to a global audience.

If you get the Olympics and can't pull them off to the same or better level of the previous event the city becomes known for its failure. Look at Athens.

While Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane have often bene grouped together, Sydney and Melbourne have moved leaps and bounds ahead of Brisbane in the last two decades and they are very much in different leagues now.

Sydney and Melbourne will have far superior transport networks by the mid 2020s just with projects already in motion now.

Melbourne has arguably the most state of the art sports precinct right in the city centre anywhere in the world.

Brisbane would need to build a lot of facilities, likely on the city fringes. Melbourne has large former industrial zones right in the central core for anything that needs to be built.

Both Sydney and Melbourne have hosted in the past, Sydney will not get it again for decades. Melbourne not hosted in 60 years so ripe for another shot.

I just canÂ’t see Brisbane beating Melbourne to a legitimate bid if it was to go forward.
Wow, what a great post. Practically everything is accurate and well-expressed and the opinions well-supported. Unfortunately, you will probably receive strong attacks from practically everyone.
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Melbourne's issue has always been the weather during the Olympic window, otherwise you'd think it'd be a shoo-in for a future Games. The 1956 Games were in November and December but I somehow doubt that'd be a goer these days.
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Wow, what a great post. Practically everything is accurate and well-expressed and the opinions well-supported. Unfortunately, you will probably receive strong attacks from practically everyone.
I say bring it on.

I'm not afraid to back up my comments/opinions

My logic can already be seen in the next 3 host cities.

Tokyo, Paris, Los Angeles - All former hosts, all alpha cities with strong economies, high living standards, Large populations, strong sporting culture with local teams and supporters that would make repurposing and filling venues easy after the Olympics very straightforward and they are destinations in and amongst themselves.

Melbourne meets all these criteria as well and already has a number of venues capable of hosting events already built.
A 100,000 capacity open-air stadium and a 56,000 capacity retractable roof stadium
Melbourne Park (Home of the Aus Open) with 3 arenas with retractable roofs and is in the midst of a $250 million redevelopments already.
All of the above are less than 1km from the centre of the city.
It's a coastal city so beach events and sailing are also on the doorstep of the city without visitors needing to travel vast distances for events.

Thats most of the major venues already built, and with 14 years to upgrade, improve and build whatever else might be needed.

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Melbourne's issue has always been the weather during the Olympic window, otherwise you'd think it'd be a shoo-in for a future Games. The 1956 Games were in November and December but I somehow doubt that'd be a goer these days.
winters are much milder than 60 years ago. A late August/early September games would be perfect conditions.
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I say bring it on.

I'm not afraid to back up my comments/opinions

My logic can already be seen in the next 3 host cities.

Tokyo, Paris, Los Angeles - All former hosts, all alpha cities with strong economies, high living standards, Large populations, strong sporting culture with local teams and supporters that would make repurposing and filling venues easy after the Olympics very straightforward and they are destinations in and amongst themselves.

Melbourne meets all these criteria as well and already has a number of venues capable of hosting events already built.
A 100,000 capacity open-air stadium and a 56,000 capacity retractable roof stadium
Melbourne Park (Home of the Aus Open) with 3 arenas with retractable roofs and is in the midst of a $250 million redevelopments already.
All of the above are less than 1km from the centre of the city.
It's a coastal city so beach events and sailing are also on the doorstep of the city without visitors needing to travel vast distances for events.

Thats most of the major venues already built, and with 14 years to upgrade, improve and build whatever else might be needed.



winters are much milder than 60 years ago. A late August/early September games would be perfect conditions.
Unfortunately, the cities you mention show the problem.

Tokyo is incurring absurd deficits and has been a 5 year PR disaster. Paris is admitting to 5B in losses and it will probably be much more even with fancy accounting (see below).

London is, say, 10B in losses even with widely reported fancy accounting (not counting building expenditures, security, maintenance, the cost of money, and many other costs; carrying built facilities at full cost even if unused). So the real lesson here is that even the large “name” cities incur substantial losses that could have gone for other social needs.

I can’t comment on Melbourne.
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As I always support new players entering the big games, this time my wishes goes to India or Indonesia, both will have significant economic growth by that time, or South Africa, bringing the games to Africa for the first time (i would prefer Casablanca but i doubt it could be a realistic to expect).
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