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Old October 8th, 2006, 02:16 PM   #1
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Capital refurbishment is geared to 21st century Oct 6 2006

By Tony Mcdonough Deputy Business Editor, Daily Post

DOWNING'S £10m refurbishment of the former Royal & Sun Alliance headquarters in Old Hall Street will add an extra 20,000 sq ft of office space.

Liverpool's biggest commercial landlord acquired the site in New Hall Place earlier this year in a record-breaking £51m deal. Shortly afterwards it was renamed the Capital. It includes the atrium entrance hall shared with the Liverpool Daily Post & Echo.

Downing has hired architects KKA who have come up with designs that will transform both the interior and exterior.

There are still around 2,000 Royal & Sun staff in the Capital and they will remain. Downing aims to bring more than 100,000 sq ft of space to the market. The extra space will take the entire site to almost 410,000 sq ft.

The new office space comes in the form of glazed extensions on the waterfront-facing upper floors and is subject to planning.

The changes planned include doubling the space of the 10,000 sq ft upper floors by the addition of glazed extensions, further glazing to crown each of the stair towers with light boxes, and a redesigned central core on all floors to create a new point of focus.

The office accommodation is divided over 17 floors. The largest covers 62,000 sq ft - easily the biggest floor space in Liverpool. The smallest is 10,000 sq ft, which can be broken down into individual suites of 5,000 sq ft.

George Downing said: "The changes reflect its shift from being the headquarters of a single company to a centre for a number of large-scale occupiers.

"They also bring the building into the 21st century.

"Business culture moves on. Issues such as energy costs, a contemporary image, intelligent use of space and environmental impact have a different resonance today from 1976, when the building opened.

"What has not changed is the fact The Capital has a fabulous location, vast floor plates and real architectural integrity."

Simon Reynolds, of GVA Grimley - joint agents with Keppie Massie - added: "The Capital is one of the most impressive office buildings outside of London.

"We think potential occupiers will be attracted by the large floor plates and the extensive facilities - which include three levels of underground car parking, a full-scale lecture theatre and indoor football pitch and catering facilities."

A planning application is expected to be submitted in the next few weeks.

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Now let`s see what they intend to do with the RSA as the `Capital` building, can they keep everyone happy by changing a well loved landmark and `icon` .....
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Old October 8th, 2006, 07:28 PM   #2
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I'm interested to see what they are proposing for this building. Will they effectively turn the building into a cube with glazed extensions, that could look stunning lit up at night.




Here is their website, but no info on the above plans yet.
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Old October 8th, 2006, 08:26 PM   #3
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I hope not.... this is an excellent building!

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I'm interested to see what they are proposing for this building. Will they effectively turn the building into a cube with glazed extensions, that could look stunning lit up at night.

Here is their website, but no info on the above plans yet.
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I hope they change the colour and a finish that is stain resistant.
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Old October 8th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #5
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I like the cubist echoing of the Liver building, but like much of that era is terrible at ground level, really pedistrian unfriendly. Hopefully they'll do something about that, dunno how much they can do, but...
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Old October 8th, 2006, 10:13 PM   #6
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I agree, the ground level is terrible, very anti-pedestrian being mostly carpark. Would be good if they could change the appearence to high quality, even if still mainly carpark.
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Old October 9th, 2006, 12:33 PM   #7
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Very excited about this, especially the idea of an external makeover. I'd say the RSI was currently the building with 'most potential' in terms of existing buildings in the city, and although some people love it as it is, I think it's desperately in need of a make over, to do it some real justice.

I hope that whatever they do to the exterior looks consistant, ie, they don't just cover it with glass extensions so it looks like an old council house with a dodgy conservatory whacked on the back. I hope they preserve the 'bulk' of the building but give it some new cladding and lighting which will make it stand out and look like a modern building on the ever changing sky-line.

Bring on the renders!
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Old October 9th, 2006, 02:09 PM   #8
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It needs some climbing plants and palm trees to make it look like a Babylonian hanging gardens. And some fountains Also a bar fronting the Strand would be nice.
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Old October 9th, 2006, 02:31 PM   #9
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It could turn out so good, yet it could also turn out so bad. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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The end of the sand castle, wow, it needed this. I'd hate to be the architect redesigning this as in my mind I can't think of any ideas . Glass extensions on the top floors, won't that make it look more of a box shape than the current pyramid-ish shape it is now? Anyway can't wait to see renders.
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Arrow AN entire floor of The Capital, the former Royal & SunAlliance HQ .....

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Office space let at former R&SA city centre base Oct 11 2006

Liverpool Echo

AN entire floor of The Capital, the former Royal & SunAlliance HQ in Old Hall Street bought for £51m by Liverpool developer George Downing this year, has been let.

Simon Reynolds, of joint agents GVA Grimley, revealed that talks are also under way with a government department and Liverpool health insurer Medicash to take space in the 14-storey blockwhich is still 60% occupied by R&SA staff.

At the official launch of plans for the building last night, he said: "The Capital is going to be a business centre in its own right."

Downing is embarking on a £10m refurbishment of the distinctive New Hall Place centre.

Under Downing's takeover terms, insurance giant R&SA has an opportunity to relinquish some of its space within The Capital in two years' time and in five years, freeing up more room to let.

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"At the official launch of plans for the building last night, he said: "The Capital is going to be a business centre in its own right."

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Old October 15th, 2006, 12:10 AM   #12
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It is... a mighty commercial ziggurat!!!

The only fault is as someone said below (apologies) the crap ground floor relation with the city.. this is a consequence, deliberately designed as such to 60s' ideas of streets and obsolete form... the wankers still take the same attitude to the likes of County Rd, so don't think we have reformed planners in Liverpool!

Crack in commercial/leisure and retail along all of its ground floor frontage and it will work as well as the ******* empire state!!!


It is as 'stain resistant' as the materials used on the Liver Buildings... remember how shitted up that used to be?

Leave it largely, design-wise, as it is... or knock it down for a real skyscraper or two!
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Ziggurat my arse!

Get rid!

Build towers!
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LoL!


If they where proposing towers I would fully back them... see what I mean about 'taste' though? Who is right about this building, those who hate it or those who respect it's form and scale?... exactly... so who should be craftong skylines?.... exactly!
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If they where proposing towers I would fully back them... see what I mean about 'taste' though? Who is right about this building, those who hate it or those who respect it's form and scale?... exactly... so who should be craftong skylines?.... exactly!
Just look at the RSA as it is. It can be reclad in stainfree materials and light colours - maybe different colours on different facets. Have insulation under the cladding too to make it full eco. Then do something useful at ground level to give the buildings human appeal from the pavement.

The building then will be dynamite to look at. It has wonderful shapes to it. What they propose to do with it, I don't know in looks. A total reclad it needs whether the building is expanded or not.
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Yep, never been a fan of the Rivita look to be honest. I hope that's considerably toned down, providing what they replace it with is not more ugly, of course.

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Just look at the RSA as it is. It can be reclad in stainfree materials and light colours - maybe different colours on different facets. Have insulation under the cladding too to make it full eco. Then do something useful at ground level to give the buildings human appeal from the pavement.

The building then will be dynamite to look at. It has wonderful shapes to it. What they propose to do with it, I don't know in looks. A total reclad it needs whether the building is expanded or not.
Totally agree with these suggestions, get it clad and people will realise what a wonderful building it is. For some reason the sandstone rivita (nice comparison) cladding makes it loose some of it's shape and form. I don't agree that we should tone it down - this building was made to be noticed! Shine it up and light it up, this is a real overlooked gem and it needs to sparkle again...
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When I referred to toned down, I just meant the Riveta. The size and shape of this building alone makes it distinctive anyhow. Providing what replaces the Riveta is actually a worthy replacement, hence my earlier musings about the chances of this going either splendidly right or disasterously wrong.
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Question Planning approval is sought for up-grade.....

[QUOTE=JUXTAPOL;10071829]I'm interested to see what they are proposing for this building. Will they effectively turn the building into a cube with glazed extensions, that could look stunning lit up at night.




Planning application published today in the DP, no details other than alterations to inside and outside of the Capital.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 10:52 PM   #20
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i think shiny black stone would be nice similar to the new pier head development
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