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Nokia: Good bye Bochum, Hello Cluj!
Many campanies are leaving Germany due to increasing influence of unions, rigid labour laws, and high costs of workforce. In the mean time east european countries become more and more dynamic and powerfull, due to liberal labour laws, skilled workforce, and cheap costs.
Let's discuss about the changes brought into Europe by the globalization. |
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How Nokia turned Jucu into a foreign investment hub
http://www.zf.ro/articol_161813/how_...tment_hub.html
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The work at "Nokia Highway" starts in april
http://www.ziuadecj.ro/action/article?ID=9212
A new highway will be built between Transylvania Highway and the town of Dej, crossing through Nokia plant in Jucu. It will have 75 Km, and will cost ~8 milion euros for each Km. It will begin in Gilau, will be linked with Transylvania Highway at Luna Interchange, will saround Cluj-Napoca by South, will pass near Cluj International Airport, and will continue towards Jucu and finaly Dej. The construction will start in April. Quote:
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![]() Mercedes tempted to choose Romania for a new factory http://english.hotnews.ro/stiri-busi...ew_factory.htm Mercedes Benz is tempted to choose Romania over Poland to build a new factory focused on A and B Klasse models, company sources say, quoted by Automotive News. The new versions of the A Klasse and B Klasse models should hit the market by 2011 and thus a decision regarding a new factory needs to be taken as soon as possible. Automotive News reads that the Germans might choose Tetarom III industrial park in Jucu, Cluj where Nokia has relocated, but the website argues that contradictions about about the future annual production capacity of the plant. While in Romania some speak of 350,000 units annually, Mercedes circles speak of 70-100,000 units annually, Automotive News says. It quotes a company source according to which the balance favors Romania and all managers were treating the issue very seriously. Mercedes wants to build cars in Eastern Europe given the lower labor costs in these countries. Romania has an important advantage from this point of view with an average of 3,23 euro/hour, as compared to 6 euro in Poland and 42 euro in Germany. Still, Poland has a better developed infrastructure and logistical costs would be lower there than in Romania. ----------- What about this ![]() Well, I think the globalization has some advantages for us (romanians) but not always for germans. I`m sure the most part of the germans have opposite feelings with respect to EU, globalization etc. . Am I right? |
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das ist gud ... JaJaJa
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a lot of countries won´t be funny about that all.
why should any invest in austria, germany, hungary, slovakia, ... when you can have romania and bulgaria. but for luck it´s not my thing cause i try to have as much money as possible for myself the only advantage for the EU itself is that the money stays "in" the EU
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Nothing special! That's the normal way of capitalism. In some years the poor buggers in the plant will suddenly recognize, that they are no longer satisfied with their 800 Lei salary and begin to fight for more social justice, higher wages etcetera. Profit is the bottom line of companys like Nokia and profit comes from unpaid or ill-paid wages rather than from the sale of the product. That's the reason why companies displace there production to countries of minimum income in eastern europe, whereas highly paid jobs with added value remain in the western parts.
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as soon as production costs rose above a certain level in Romania or Bulgaria, these factories will be closed down and shifted to the next cheap labour country.
And believe me, there are enough countries on this planet. Maybe in the not to distant future, our cars and mobile phones will come from sudon or nigeria. |
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Amazing there are many Far East Asians working in Romania though.
Too many, indeed. Will there be special cleaning against HIV?
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Damn antigerman proromanian finnish!
Finnnish them all right away! ![]() |
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Wer hat die Leute in unser Forum gelassen?
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Erbse weigert sich solchen Leuten Verwarnungen zu stecken
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Es hasse es, wenn Fremde hier mitmischen. Haben die keinen eigenen Biere, um die sie sich kümmern können? Müssen die uns auf die Säcke gehen?
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Ein bißchen schade, dass das deutsche Forum recht unfreundlich "Fremden" gegenüber ist. Ich habe und erlebe Deutschland immer noch (beruflich) als ein sehr freundliches Land mit zum größten Teil herzlichen Menschen. Hier wird aber leider das Klischee des unterkülten Deutschen ziemlich gut bestätigt.
Das mit NOKIA ist tatsächlich eine große Schweinerei. Ich persönlich habe bereits mit solchen Entscheidungen Erfahrungen gemacht. Vor ca. 12 Jahren musste mein Vater in Griechenland Konkurs melden nachdem Maxmara (ein französisches Modelabel) seine Produktion nach Bulgarien verlagert hat. So musste er sein Unternehmen schliessen und 72 Frauen entlassen die er bereits 11 Jahre beschäftigt hatte. Eine sehr schwierige Zeit für unsere Familie aber vorallem für diese Frauen. Die meisten waren bereits über 40 und ohne Ausbildung oder Studiumanschluß. Solche Geschichten gibt es im Mittelstand mehr als genug. In Griechenland genauso wie in Deutschland. Nur bekommen wir diese nicht mit denn es wird darüber nicht berichtet. Was ich persönlich etwas seltsam finde ist die Tatsache dass die Medien aber auch die Menschen sich sehr gerne an diesem NOKIA Fall versteifen. Wahrscheinlich weil es ein ausländisches Unternehmen ist. Gleichzeitig entlassen deutsche Unternehmen bei weitem mehr Arbeitnehmer. Die Telekom streicht 8000 Stellen (bin mir da über die Zahl nicht sicher), SIEMENS und BMW jeweils an die 3000 Stellen. Wieso ist das weniger schlimm oder weniger attraktiv für die Medien? Das verstehe ich nicht.
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Na ja, wenn die Rumänen in unser Forum kommen und hier auf dicke Hose machen nur weil Nokia umgezogen ist, dann muss man die ja wohl nicht auch noch willkommen heißen.
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ich glaube da gehts bei Nokia mehr um die Subventionen die sie erhalten haben.
bei BMW wird daraum nicht "allzu" tragisch sein, da sie nach wie vor über 80.000 Leute in BRD beschäftigen. und es sind bedeutend mehr als die 3000 o.g.
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I love romanian car test!
Eins können die Rumänen besser als wir! Automagazine! http://www.promotor.ro/tags/pictorial ![]() |
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Dafür gesperrt! Gegen Stadionverbote!
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Motorräder und nackige Frauen sind immer noch der beste Grund, ein Automagazin zu kaufen. Nicht jeder besitzt meinen Mut, am Kiosk offen nach der Praline zu fragen.
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Gibt hier im Forum zum Fall Nokia einen sehr sachlichen, ausgewogenen Thread, ohne den Tenor des linken Wirtschaftsnationalismus.
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astia nu stiu engleza?
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