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Old October 30th, 2019, 05:58 PM   #21
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I am not a fan of at-grade train. They just compete with regular vehicular traffic and will surely stop or cause traffic to a stand-still at intersections. I prefer elevated or underground.
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Old October 30th, 2019, 06:26 PM   #22
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Roxas Boulevard tram system

no surprises there, given the car-centric mindset of Filipinos inherited from the American colonizers.

Meanwhile in Europe, at-grade tram networks are all over, sharing the road with pedestrians, cyclists, buses, and so-called "regular vehicular traffic".

The Americans really ****ed up the Philippines, especially Manila, infrastructure-wise (by bombing our extensive tram networks then) and mindset-wise (cars, cars, cars! public transit is for poor people!).

Imagine if we weren't bombed by the Americans. Nakakaiyak lang.

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Old October 31st, 2019, 12:36 AM   #23
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no surprises there, given the car-centric mindset of Filipinos inherited from the American colonizers.

Meanwhile in Europe, at-grade tram networks are all over, sharing the road with pedestrians, cyclists, buses, and so-called "regular vehicular traffic".

The Americans really ****ed up the Philippines, especially Manila, infrastructure-wise (by bombing our extensive tram networks then) and mindset-wise (cars, cars, cars! public transit is for poor people!).

Imagine if we weren't bombed by the Americans. Nakakaiyak lang.
Yep. Hindi naman kasi dapat private cars ang priority.
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Old October 31st, 2019, 04:51 AM   #24
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no surprises there, given the car-centric mindset of Filipinos inherited from the American colonizers.

Meanwhile in Europe, at-grade tram networks are all over, sharing the road with pedestrians, cyclists, buses, and so-called "regular vehicular traffic".

The Americans really ****ed up the Philippines, especially Manila, infrastructure-wise (by bombing our extensive tram networks then) and mindset-wise (cars, cars, cars! public transit is for poor people!).

Imagine if we weren't bombed by the Americans. Nakakaiyak lang.
The Americans left some 70 years ago, so no need to blame them

Relatively speaking, there are few cars in the Philippines, even in Manila. Per capita car ownership is about 1/4 of Thailand for example (I admit the data is a bit outdated).

The problem is that infrastructure spending on both public transportation and roads has been minuscule in the past 70 years.

Its only picking up now, but it would take twenty years to catch up with our neighbors Thailand and Malaysia, fifty years to catch up with Singapore/South Korea/Japan (if ever).
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Old November 22nd, 2019, 09:28 AM   #25
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MANILA, Philippines — Greenergy Holdings Inc., a listed company led by businessman Antonio Tiu, has submitted an unsolicited proposal to put up a tramway in Manila.
In a disclosure yesterday, Greenergy said the company proposed to build a tramway system as an additional mode of transport for Manila’s roughly 1.7 million population.

Read more at https://www.philstar.com/business/20...9mgAubwhsYK.99


https://www.philstar.com/business/20...manila-tramway
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Old November 22nd, 2019, 04:34 PM   #26
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Greenergy submits offer to construct tramway in Manila

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Greenergy president and chief executive Antonio Tiu said in a text message the company was still doing the final feasibility to determine the total cost of the project.
The planned tramway aims to connect Roxas Boulevard to Makati Subway, a project of Philippine Infraved Holdings Inc. which is also controlled by Tiu. It will run from Port Area to Vito Cruz.
http://manilastandard.net/business/c...in-manila.html
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Old November 23rd, 2019, 04:44 AM   #27
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I hope connected 'to sa LRT2 via future Pier 4 station, then Roxas Blvd, tapos liko sa Vito Cruz and may interchange sa Vito Cruz LRT1 station and possibly PNR as well. Tapos dulo ng Vito Cruz Extension is Manila South Cemetery which is few hundred meters away from Makati Fire Station where there'll be a Makati Subway station.

At least mukhang this will serve the CCP area, BSP, Rizal Memorial Stadium, and the hotels and schools nearby.
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Old November 24th, 2019, 07:23 AM   #28
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I am not a fan of at-grade train. They just compete with regular vehicular traffic and will surely stop or cause traffic to a stand-still at intersections. I prefer elevated or underground.
Trams doesn’t have to run on the same road. In plenty of Post-Soviet cities, most of the tram network is centered in the middle of the road, separated from traffic except for in intersections
Thus it’s like a BRT, but with the advantages of rail
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Old November 24th, 2019, 11:24 AM   #29
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Usually in cities that do have trams they tend to follow the traffic light's or they have their own which are coordinated with other traffic light's, so it shouldn't really cause a traffic standstill at intersections, and usually even if there are no light's the rules usually are that the trams have right of way for obvious reasons, but even then it doesn't take longer for a tram to cross an intersection than a bus or truck ... .
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Old November 25th, 2019, 12:59 PM   #30
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dapat thy use the beach(pampang) para hindi sya sagabal sa traffic
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