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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:30 AM   #1
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Belgrade Plaza | Phase 3 | Student Accommodation/Retail | 21/15/10fl | U/C.

This is the long-awaited third phase of the Belgrade Plaza development. Original proposals were for a residential courtyard that would sit alongside a 15 storey Radisson hotel, and a 10 storey mixed used building housing a Premier Inn, residential apartments and bars/restaurants (this building was completed several years ago and is home to chains such as Cafe Rouge, Pizza Express & Bella Italia). There is no news of the land earmarked for the Radisson hotel - that project bit the dust when the recession kicked-in.

This phase of the development will now see a 21 storey student block with A3/A4 units at ground level. The planning application also seeks outline permission for up to 49 residential properties.







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I like it!
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Old August 15th, 2015, 12:58 PM   #3
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We could do with all those 'gap' sites filling in like this!
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Old August 16th, 2015, 05:16 AM   #5
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Now.... Time to wait for the downsizing planning app.....
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Old August 16th, 2015, 12:00 PM   #6
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Now.... Time to wait for the downsizing planning app.....
This isn't BCC, cov are probably allowed these towering beasts
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Old August 18th, 2015, 02:56 PM   #7
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Interesting:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/new...-talks-9873324

Only concern is can they justify something of any real scale. I cant see they will need a tower as big as was planned for Radisson. So do we get a 3/4 story building only?
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Old August 18th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #8
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You do wonder, you'd want something of equivalent scale to the existing. Otherwise it'll look completely ridiculous in the context of the planned student digs.

Perhaps Radisson could be tempted by another site elsewhere I.e. Friargate
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Old August 18th, 2015, 03:22 PM   #9
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A tower would be good on that spot.

Another boring building like the Premier Inn would be a huge disappointment.
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Old August 18th, 2015, 04:55 PM   #10
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This isn't BCC, cov are probably allowed these towering beasts
Oh no they're not.

The council are deadfast against anything being taller than spires, and in the last Action Plan there was a diagram showing how large buildings would be automatically refused in about 75% of the centre because it would obstruct views of them, despite the fact almost all of these views were minimal (ie the very tip of a spire) and obstructed by other structures (like the ring road).

Ironically, one of the places they were actively encouraging tall buildings was one of only two which actually could provide good views of all three spires together due to layout and topography, AND is probably the biggest used visitor route.

We're run by very much the same idiots you are!
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Old August 18th, 2015, 05:24 PM   #11
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I think this looks bloody awful. Like that horrid brown brick building next to the Burlington Hotel in Brum. An example of how tall buildings need to be if high standard where they dominate a skyline, so glad Dandara were not allowed to go taller at Arena Central now.
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Old August 18th, 2015, 05:26 PM   #12
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The taller section looks like the kind of cheap reclad of office blocks you get. Something stylish and glass would be much better here.
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Old August 18th, 2015, 09:23 PM   #13
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Oh no they're not.

The council are deadfast against anything being taller than spires, and in the last Action Plan there was a diagram showing how large buildings would be automatically refused in about 75% of the centre because it would obstruct views of them, despite the fact almost all of these views were minimal (ie the very tip of a spire) and obstructed by other structures (like the ring road).

Ironically, one of the places they were actively encouraging tall buildings was one of only two which actually could provide good views of all three spires together due to layout and topography, AND is probably the biggest used visitor route.

We're run by very much the same idiots you are!
Friargate's masterplan has 'provision' for buildings up to 25 storeys (110m) which is 20m taller than the Cathedral Spire (90m). And there's nothing in the city centre plan to indicate nothing taller than the Cathedral tower.

Which route are you talking about?
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I like the way it steps giving the impression of different buildings. Hope the quality of the brown bits is good as this could look great or awful. I don't go into Coventry much for work, and cannot remember a view of the spires in the same way that say Lichfield's dominate the skyline.
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The taller section looks like the kind of cheap reclad of office blocks you get. Something stylish and glass would be much better here.
I agree to a point. A bit of a missed opportunity. Actually though, if you look at the full planning app, the taller building will be clad with glazed terracotta tiles - and the indicative examples they give look quite smart (they have a shiny, reflective quality). Not sure about the pale blue though - it might look a bit cheap and naff from a distance.

This is close-up of the top of the building from the planning app:

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I'd happily take that in Birmingham somewhere
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Looks pretty good but the bulk means it will have to be well designed but not a fan of the lighter coloured top storey. Who is the architect? Has this gone in for planning?
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Looks pretty good but the bulk means it will have to be well designed but not a fan of the lighter coloured top storey. Who is the architect? Has this gone in for planning?
Yes, it has gone in for planning:

http://planning.coventry.gov.uk/port...et?PKID=774123

Architects are Simpson Haugh & Partners (think they were behind Holloway Circus in Birmingham?)
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I like the way it steps giving the impression of different buildings. Hope the quality of the brown bits is good as this could look great or awful. I don't go into Coventry much for work, and cannot remember a view of the spires in the same way that say Lichfield's dominate the skyline.
I think it is two separate buildings (At least two maybe three).

Coventry's Cathedral doesn't dominate the skyline apart from a few views from the hills around the city centre. (Such as Coundon, Mile Lane, Earlsdon).

What you have to remember is that the Cathedral was originally just a parish church that was made into a Cathedral in 1928 (I think). It was originally thought to be a chapel in Coventry Castle that grew after the castle was destroyed. Holy Trinity actually occupies the 'Higher Ground' on Hill Top. By the 20th century it was very much in a heavily urbanised setting, with factories next to in and a lot of small lanes and narrow streets. Even Holy Trinity was hidden behind a row of houses. The industry nearby is one of the reasons why it was bombed.

The 'new' Cathedral is actually the city's third Cathedral.

The city's first Cathedral is now only a few fragmentary ruins, but it is interesting that you mention Lichfield, as Coventry and Lichfield shared the Bishopric of the Coventry and Lichfield Diocese up until the reformation. Coventry became a Bishopric when the Earl of Chester moved the bishop from Chester to Coventry and it ended up being dual with Lichfield. The Bishop was still called the Bishop of Chester. The Benedictine Abbey that became the Cathedral was the one founded by Lady Godiva and Leofric, and is thought to be one the site of a Nunnery that may have been there for some time (It's mentioned in the Anglo Saxon Chronicle.)

Coventry's Cathedral was a Benedictine Abbey and run by Monks, whereas the Lichfield Cathedral was secular and run by Canons. They alternated choosing the bishop, but ended up in conflict on numerous times.

Coventry's Cathedral was closed down during the reformation (I believe an Abbot was executed) and was dismantled. This probably led to the post-medieval slump, as the city also lost three other major religious houses (Fragmentary remains of all three still exist.) and a major source of income. These places were not just religious, but also important economically.

The original Cathedral may have been a lot more like Lichfield's. During the civil was in the 12th century it was commandeered by Robert Marmion who used it to engage in a battle with the Earl of Chester who in Coventry Castle.

Fascinating stuff!
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I just do not like tall buildings which have cladding as the ones I've seen turn out terrible.

Maybe as stated the materials will be better but Cov really deserves something sleek and stylish, a signature tower and with all the investment I/ve been hearing they warrant it.
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