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Old March 24th, 2017, 08:03 AM   #41
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While I'm happy that they're planning for urban rails to reach outside the "inner city", I believe they should add more stations, shorter the distance between stations, or make provisions for more stations. This will allow more passengers to get off and on closer to their destination. Urban rails spur development on the routes they run so they should think about that.

This reminds me of Kiev. Where I was staying was a nice area, but the subway stations were 4 km+ apart. My place happened to be in the middle, 2 km to the main downtown station, and 2 km to the nearest "large" market. In between they have mini buses, that run like jeepneys. I ended up walking everywhere. BUT they have nice big sidewalks. Walking in Kiev in the winter is like walking in Manila in perpetual summer and NO sidewalks.
Kaytikling-Valley Golf-Junction route is usually where all the passengers go as their starting point. Since I ride bus on a daily basis, usually most passengers originating from Rizal will drop off at Floodway, Robinson's Galleria, and Greenhills.

There is quite a lot of development happening in Taytay and Cainta, especially along the Ortigas Ave. Highway. Walter Mart opened in December, Megaworld's "The Hive" recently finished the First Tower Building and construction of the second Tower is on-going, Three new car dealerships near Hyundai Cainta with some construction happening behind the new dealerships, and a new Town Market in Valley Golf. Rumor has it that Robinsons will be building a mall on the former Mitsubishi Motors lot along with new Condos. In Taytay, there is even potential for new commercial businesses in Highway 2000.

Taytay and Cainta is growing and the need for better transportation needs to come soon. Commuters and Businesses will benefit from LRT-4 if ever it sees the light of day. Hopefully, DOTr will visit this project again.
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Old March 24th, 2017, 09:24 AM   #42
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This is where I would disagree, in fact prior to Mandaluyong APM, JICA through its MMUTIS back then has already provided a similar alignment for a line to Taytay going through Ortigas Center (which was envisioned to go further to Binangonan).
Thanks for the info.

The earlier study is a different beast as it is for the whole metro manila. Mandaluyong wanted is a APM to serve the denser part of the city from kalentong to ortigas CBD primarily along Boni Ave since it doesn't have the budget. The line was connected to the proposed (MRT8) east line. (MRT2 Sta Mesa to Sta Cruz Laguna 48km long with Phase 1 up to Taytay which have general alignment of shaw blvd and ortigas) I think this is now LRT4.
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Old March 27th, 2017, 05:49 AM   #43
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I was here yesterday going to Antipolo, I must say this railway project should be given a priority, just imagine early Sunday morning passing this road, heavy traffic builds up quickly. How much more during working days????
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LRT o MRT ang bagon AGT?? WTF!!
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Old March 27th, 2017, 07:30 AM   #45
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I think "AGT" refers to any automated light rail system, right? Then the Alstom Axonis light metro turnkey system fits the bill for LRT-4, as it is automated, has a system capacity ranging from 10,000 to 45,000 passengers per hour per direction and can be built and enter service in 3 to 4 years.

The Axonis system includes the viaducts, tracks, rolling stock, signaling and power supply.
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Old April 5th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #46
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Lots of townships are being developed in the Ortigas Avenue and Ortigas Avenue Extension corridors, this infrastructure project is badly needed.

This is why economic planners and government employees from DOTr and DPWH should be required to commute around the different routes in Metro Manila during the rush hours so they can really be aware of the extent of the problem.
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Old April 5th, 2017, 07:26 PM   #47
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Lots of townships are being developed in the Ortigas Avenue and Ortigas Avenue Extension corridors, this infrastructure project is badly needed.

This is why economic planners and government employees from DOTr and DPWG should be required to commute around the different routes in Metro Manila during the rush hours so they can really be aware of the extent of the problem.
Or if they're too lazy, they can hire someone with drone. I don't know if the DOTr and the planners use aerial images or videos to give them a better look.
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Or if they're too lazy, they can hire someone with drone. I don't know if the DOTr and the planners use aerial images or videos to give them a better look.
That's a clever idea. But maybe too clever for our government officials.
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Old April 6th, 2017, 01:58 AM   #49
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That's a clever idea. But maybe too clever for our government officials.
The planners can also put hard data into a simulation program and it will help them follow the direction/movement of people/vehicles in the city and help them map out transit routes. Too clever for them?

If they're too lazy or not so clever, there's also google map (satellite, terrain etc), and google street view too.
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The planners can also put hard data into a simulation program and it will help them follow the direction/movement of people/vehicles in the city and help them map out transit routes. Too clever for them?

If they're too lazy or not so clever, there's also google map (satellite, terrain etc), and google street view too.
Yes, my assumption is that the drone idea is too clever for them because otherwise we would be seeing a lot of "observation" drones in the busiest areas in Metro Manila now, observing where traffic is being jammed into a gridlock.

Maybe they are lazy, or maybe they just don't have the hunger to be innovative. There are a lot of possible options to use including the ones you suggested. Heck, I even use Waze to scan the rush hour traffic in an area when doing my due diligence. But sadly, these options appear too clever for our policymakers.
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Old April 6th, 2017, 08:53 AM   #51
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They may use existing MMDA and MRT/LRT CCTV cameras scattered around metro Manila.

LRT2 CCTV Cameras are newly installed.
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CCTV monitors are useless when your DOTC heads have no grasp on reality. ... jaded and living in gated villages and uttering traffic is a sign of progress or traffic is not fatal. They have no sense of urgency. A simple plastic card for a driver's license cannot be solved, what more a complicated traffic study.

And there is no need for a new study when the studies were already done by various agencies. They already know what is needed and should just decide on the system to implement, look for ways on how it will be financed, built and stick to it till it's completion.
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I noticed that this line is 19 km with only 6 stops. That means avg of 3.1 km per stop. Can't they increase the number of stops reducing the distance between stops? (Methink that an avg of 1 km to 250 m closer to population centres will be a good distance.) OR even making provisions to increase number of stations as time goes? People in between stops, how are they going to get to the stations? Jeepney, trici or hike?
The government should provide beautiful walkways/sidewalks to encourage people to walk. May nakita akong slogan ng MMDA dati along EDSA, "A healthy city is a walkable city."
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CCTV monitors are useless when your DOTC heads have no grasp on reality. ... jaded and living in gated villages and uttering traffic is a sign of progress or traffic is not fatal. They have no sense of urgency. A simple plastic card for a driver's license cannot be solved, what more a complicated traffic study.

And there is no need for a new study when the studies were already done by various agencies. They already know what is needed and should just decide on the system to implement, look for ways on how it will be financed, built and stick to it till it's completion.
Wow!
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Old April 19th, 2017, 09:07 AM   #55
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Hindi yata priority ng Duterte admin 'tong Line 4. Wala siya dun sa press release ng list of priority projects, asdfghjkl!
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Sana gawin nalang din underground ang meralco station nito and have a proper interchange with the MM subway. Then all the way to Rizal should be overhead.
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It seems that the Pasay-Makati-Taguig Subway (MOA to BGC) may eventually interconnect with LRT-4 in Ortigas. Photo here is from the Build Build Build website (apologies for the resolution size):

The thick line is the alignment of the PNR North 1 (Tutuban to Malolos).
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^Also, it seems that Line 4 from Taytay will be connected to what I think is near the V. Mapa Station of Line 2, meaning that it will be a Manila-Taytay line or there will be a spur line connecting Line 4 to V. Mapa.
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The route looks like shaw blvd then c raymundo ave to ortigas ext
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Line 4's new alignment?

From the Build, Build, Build website, it seems Line 4 will now be from Manila to Taytay, following the alignment of Shaw Blvd., C. Raymundo, Ortigas Ave. Ext., and Manila East Road

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