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Old October 11th, 2017, 06:46 AM   #1
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Guadalupe-BGC (specifically Uptown Bonifacio) Skytrain | Length: 2 km| 2 Stations

Billionaire Tan offers to build Guadalupe-BGC 'Skytrain'

MANILA - Billionaire Andrew Tan is diversifying into infrastructure and has proposed to build a 2-kilometer "Skytrain" monorail in one of the capital's financial centers, his holding firm said Wednesday.

The new company, INFRACORP, submitted to government this week an unsolicited proposal for the monorail, which will connect the MRT Guadalupe Station to Tan's own Uptown Bonifacio development in Bonifacio Global City, Alliance Global told the stock exchange.

The Skytrain, which will be at no cost to the government, will serve 60,000 to 100,000 passengers daily, according to the disclosure.

"Given the country’s strong and stable economy, we see a huge opportunity to invest in infrastructure. We are excited to participate and optimistic about the government’s aggressive push for infrastructure developments," said Alliance Global executive director and INFRACORP president Kevin Tan.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/10/...e-bgc-skytrain
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Old October 11th, 2017, 06:58 AM   #2
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Alliance Global goes into infrastructure
Published October 11, 2017 11:19am

Alliance Global Inc. (AGI) intends to take advantage of the spending initiative of the Duterte administration by going into infrastructure.

The holding company of tycoon Andrew Tan told the Philippine Stock Exchange on Wednesday it has created Infracorp Development Inc., a new company that will handle infrastructure projects under the private-public partnership (PPP).

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money...ructure/story/
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Old October 11th, 2017, 07:05 AM   #3
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Its kinda silly that the sole purpose of this is to connect BGC (specifically at Megaworld's sole turf) to the MRT3 system. I suppose its probably due to easy ROW?

That said, this could serve as a precedent to disconnected places to the rail transit system. The Mall of Asia comes to mind and it would be nice if we can have a similar system connect it with MRT3 and LRT1 at the EDSA-Taft intersection. Eastwood City could also use a connector to LRT2 Santolan Station.
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mentioning connect to BGC is saying it politely than connecting to Uptown Bonifacio, when this project is clearly promoting their own interest and development than for the whole BGC.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 07:20 AM   #5
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There, I edited the thread title to reflect the true purpose of this project...
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Old October 11th, 2017, 07:58 AM   #6
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We're not paying for it so let them do their sh*t. It'd be nice to see real estate developers construct their own transport service to serve their customers. Taxpayers can't meddle in this sh*t cos they're not paying a cent for it.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 08:07 AM   #7
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I like this. I like this a lot. Imagine when all the trunklines (LRTs, MRTs, subways) are complete, developers can be compelled to add their own mini-monorail whenever they build something -- now they're no longer the problem, they're the solution to the traffic situation.

International rail companies can be salivating as well -- just like we once had so many bus manufacturers catering to all the bus operators (until the operators went greedy and bought Yutongs and Higers instead of patronizing the locally-built Daewoos and erstwhile Nissan Diesel). We could have a mini AGT renaissance.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 08:58 AM   #8
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May iba pa sanang company magsimula mag-submit at gumawa ng monorail sa Pilipinas. Mas malinis tingnan at madaling gawin to.
I hope developers,companies will be inspired once it is built and in service.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 09:35 AM   #9
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They should think of extending it all the way to villamor to really serve the whole area than that the other crazy BRT project which Jica reported will be inadequate and will cause more congestion. This should be part of a whole system than this tingi tingi, kanya kanya approach.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 09:49 AM   #10
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As long as there are actually agreed-upon interchanges, this kanya-kanyang private transport system might be better for the public. One could hope, it's free.

Kung cable-driven, like MiniMetro:

If we're talking about seriously cutting costs, cable cars na lang...

They're just fancy elevators. Plus it's easier to go incline with cable cars. Does anyone know how much ROW for just a cable going over your house? Wrong forum na ?

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Old October 11th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #11
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Makati Guadalupe-Fort Bonifacio 'Skytrain'

Makati Guadalupe-Fort Bonifacio 'Skytrain'
MANILA - (UPDATE) Billionaire Andrew Tan is diversifying into infrastructure and has proposed to build a 2-kilometer "Skytrain" monorail in one of the capital's financial centers, his holding firm said Wednesday.
The new company, INFRACORP, submitted to government this week an unsolicited proposal for the monorail, which will connect the MRT Guadalupe Station to Tan's own Uptown Bonifacio development, Alliance Global told the stock exchange.
The Skytrain, which will be at no cost to the government, will serve 60,000 to 100,000 passengers daily, according to the disclosure.
"Given the country’s strong and stable economy, we see a huge opportunity to invest in infrastructure. We are excited to participate and optimistic about the government’s aggressive push for infrastructure developments," said Alliance Global executive director and INFRACORP president Kevin Tan.
Tan said the Skytrain could cost P3.8 billion based on initial estimates. With early government approval, Tan said INFRACORP hoped to start construction by the second half of 2018 and finish in 2 years.

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Old October 11th, 2017, 03:31 PM   #12
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They should think of extending it all the way to villamor to really serve the whole area than that the other crazy BRT project which Jica reported will be inadequate and will cause more congestion. This should be part of a whole system than this tingi tingi, kanya kanya approach.
I thought there was an older proposal (dating to when I don't know) to connect Guadalupe-Fort and NAIA.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 09:22 PM   #13
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Strategic move for Megaworld to enter the transportation business. Once this project is approved & awarded to them (only when a swiss challenge failed), they can claim the "original proponent" status for the eventual extension of this project to various Megaword townships- McKinley West, McKinley Hill, Resorts World Manila/ Newport City, Resorts World Bayshore. Eastwood/C5 extension "might" also be on the drawingboard.
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Old October 12th, 2017, 02:12 AM   #14
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Tama.. ayus sana kung diretso i-connect din sa McKinley Hill at sa New Port City. Para ang ibang pasahero ng airport pwede din gumamit nyan.
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Old October 12th, 2017, 02:52 AM   #15
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Hmm.. why don't they connect this all the way to their other properties like Mckinley and then Resorts World then Naia T3.. kaso this will collide with soon-to-come projects like the BGC-Ortigas link and the future off-ramp of NAIAX's extension to Lawton
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My only guess as to why Megaworld cannot extend this to McKinley and Resorts Worlds is ROW. McKinley desperately needs a connector as well but that means this Skytrain will need to traverse across BGC, so there could be issues with BCDA or other developers. More so with Resorts World since it will have to traverse all of Lawton, again cutting through BGC, presumably via 5th Avenue, to get there. I think they can easily do this Skytrain because the route is above public roads for the most part. I am curious how this will get along with the Ortgas-BGC Bridge since both will be at Lawton.

Its almost as if this project is an acknowledgment of the lack of transit access to Uptown Bonifacio. Imagine all those dense office towers and condos in that area. Its too far to walk to Kalayaan or Market Market, subway will take years to get there, and I dunno how often the BGC bus comes to that area. The lack of parking is well documented and personally experienced, otherwise I would go to Timmy's more often than just on "special occasions". And at the end of the day, that is where Megaworld's HQ is now, so I'm sure its employees must be really whining due to lack of access.
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Unsolicited plans should get submitted to the DOTr so it does not clash with any future railway projects of the government... The DPWH should inspect building materials and conduct regular building inspections until project is completed to ensure that nothing is substandard, that everything is earthquake proofed and that fire & safety regulations are approved & followed... While the DOTr should ensure passenger safety with the rails, signals and stations checked & approved for public use... If it is a success then it can be replicated in other central business districts or any small city or towns with enough numbers of daily commuters to justify & sustain an expensive project... There should be an assigned government agency to ensure that the cost is not heavily passed onto the public as exorbitantly priced rail fares...

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If ever this unsolicited plan got approved by the government??
Let's hope that SM-MOA will do the same of connecting the later to MRT3/LRT1 Buendia station with it's own Monorail system.
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If ever this unsolicited plan got approved by the government??
Let's hope that SM-MOA will do the same of connecting the later to MRT3/LRT1 Buendia station with it's own Monorail system.
Closest stations to MoA are MRT Taft and LRT EDSA stations, not Buendia.
It may end up being easier for MoA to connect to the upcoming LRT-1 extension Redemptorist station, which will be located close to around where S&R is now.

Take note, MRT Buendia station is in Makati, while LRT Gil Puyat (Buendia) station is in Pasay, they're quite far apart from each other.
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Unsolicited plans should get submitted to the DOTr so it does not clash with any future railway projects of the government... The DPWH should inspect building materials and conduct regular building inspections until project is completed to ensure that nothing is substandard, that everything is earthquake proofed and that fire & safety regulations are approved & followed... While the DOTr should ensure passenger safety with the rails, signals and stations checked & approved for public use... If it is a success then it can be replicated in other central business districts or any small city or towns with enough numbers of daily commuters to justify & sustain an expensive project... There should be an assigned government agency to ensure that the cost is not heavily passed onto the public as exorbitantly priced rail fares...
Please note this is a cable car railway, a glorified gondola, or even a glorified elevator. Total cost shouldn't exceed US $100M. Compare with "real" railways whose starting price is $1 billion. There are only a few European companies who specialize in this, the ones who have been building ski resorts for over a century -- if ever safety standards are lax its either due to the local contractor not following the right spec to fit the electromechanical components of the supplier, or if the PH company decided to buy from a supplier with no track record (e.g. the Chinese supplier of the Malacca Monorail).

queetz said it best that it primarily addresses the woes of Megaworld's commuting employees, in that case it is best the government keeps its hands off. No different than building another entrance to a subdivision and connecting it onto a public road. I expect it's going to be a free shuttle for employees and a joyride for a small fee for all others -- although I do wonder how hard the government will crack down on regulating fares, especially if this is no different than an amusement park ride.

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