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Old May 28th, 2018, 11:31 AM   #41
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my unsolicited suggestion regarding the UST station - that it turns a soft left southbound facing Earnshaw St. crossing Lacson from there and making a link to LRT2 Legarda Station as an intersection and then advancing downward traversing ayala bridge to National Museum skirting Intramuros with endpoint at Manila Hotel with a soft positioning turning right towards R10.

The small parcel of land along Espana/Lacson where RCJ Busline is stationed be reacquired for it to be UST-Lacson station. In that way it avoids fronting UST campus and the 63-67 dominicans will feel respected. win win situation pa for govt and business since tagusan pa sa Manila Hotel ang endpoint.

thats my take, wala lang.
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Old May 28th, 2018, 02:23 PM   #42
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my unsolicited suggestion regarding the UST station - that it turns a soft left southbound facing Earnshaw St. crossing Lacson from there and making a link to LRT2 Legarda Station as an intersection and then advancing downward traversing ayala bridge to National Museum skirting Intramuros with endpoint at Manila Hotel with a soft positioning turning right towards R10.

The small parcel of land along Espana/Lacson where RCJ Busline is stationed be reacquired for it to be UST-Lacson station. In that way it avoids fronting UST campus and the 63-67 dominicans will feel respected. win win situation pa for govt and business since tagusan pa sa Manila Hotel ang endpoint.

thats my take, wala lang.
That's a great suggestion. Although I'm not sure if turning left to Earnshaw is feasible. However it's still worth considering. Dire diretso papuntang Legarda. Although if you wanna bring your passengers to Quiapo and Morayta this is a no.
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Old May 28th, 2018, 06:42 PM   #43
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Medyo maliit din ang earnshaw road, ROW might be a roadblock there. :/
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Old May 29th, 2018, 06:59 AM   #44
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Actually Earnshaw st is as wide as Lacson and Espana (try looking at google maps or gazing the horizon while you're riding an elevated vehicle when you're southbound to quiapo).

And the nearest point where you can make it feasible near quiapo is the Hidalgo st. via San Sebastian Church which can muster tourists in the short term.

Not like Lerma where there is an EverGotesco Mall that fully stops future expansion southward. So there's my take. Wala lang.

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Old May 29th, 2018, 10:20 AM   #45
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Yes malawak ang Earnshaw. Kung dire diretso ng Hidalgo ang labas nun Quiapo Church, although di ko sure kung pwede i-extend papuntant LRT 1 Central yun.

Yung width ng streets isn't even that much of an issue. As long as you have a 4 lane road building an elevated railway is doable. Sa Aurora Blvd. nga yung San Juan portion nun, sa may bandang J. Ruiz, 4 lane road lang yun, maliit lang yung daanan. Earnshaw is definitely wider than that portion of Aurora Blvd.
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Old May 29th, 2018, 10:34 AM   #46
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Just have the project create a stop/station just about after legarda near Hidalgo and San Sebastian st. not turn right through it . Then create an elevated walkway like what BKK did kasi hindi kaya nung sikip nang kalsada doon pa hidalgo and san sebastian church pag i dadaan dun ung lrt, i deretso na hanggang manila hotel yan then right turn to R10 then i connect sa LRT 2 pa divisoria.

halatang Manilan ako right pero overall im proud of this government.
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Old May 29th, 2018, 01:07 PM   #47
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Ang ganda ng station! Unlike sa MRT-7 (sana maghire ang Philkoei ng creative engineers).

May mali lang sa graphics. Sa QCMC Station, may station na tinatayo doon for MRT7. Bakit MRT-3 nakalagay? Baka sa EDSA yun?

Anyway, TBM na siguro gagamitin nila sa mga UG stations. It's really nice to see na may ka-complement na ang MRT-7.
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Old May 29th, 2018, 04:36 PM   #48
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why is it terminating at Lerma?
IMO, it should be nicanor reyes then a unified station in oroquieta cor recto. medyo Malala lang na political will dahil squatters area ang tatamaan.

otherwise, pwede ding recto cor quezon blvd. para may option to extend towards quiapo then central station. magiging university line na talaga sa daming school na madadaan.
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Old May 30th, 2018, 03:52 AM   #49
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^if your suggestion is considered its very near d.jose lrt1 which to me isn't viable, the diversion to earnshaw -> legarda -> ayala bridge -> national museum -> manila hotel endpoint is still the best.

above the quiapo underpass isnt a sturdy place for a terminal to end.
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Old May 30th, 2018, 04:29 AM   #50
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^if your suggestion is considered its very near d.jose lrt1 which to me isn't viable, the diversion to earnshaw -> legarda -> ayala bridge -> national museum -> manila hotel endpoint is still the best.

above the quiapo underpass isnt a sturdy place for a terminal to end.
True. Kakabahan ako sa area na yan dahil pag nagtayo ka ng pier dyan to support the structure, sobrang taas, that's a challenge. That is, kung ang endpoint talaga is Recto. Eh kung dadaan lang sa Lerma tapos ang gusto mong endpoint is Quiapo or Central, kailangan pang mas taasan yung pier, sobrang taas na nun unless you will go underground. I'm not an engineer so I don't know if building a pier that high or even building a station right above that underpass is doable.


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why is it terminating at Lerma?
IMO, it should be nicanor reyes then a unified station in oroquieta cor recto. medyo Malala lang na political will dahil squatters area ang tatamaan.
Hindi lang squatters, Manila City Jail will also be affected.

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Old May 30th, 2018, 06:37 AM   #51
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Ako ang suggestion ko sa north end side naman.

I diretso sya ng Line 2 Katipunan station sa future. Bale University Avenue(L7)-UP Campus-Ateneo/Miriam-Katipunan Station(L2).

This way tatamaan naman yun mga University ng QC so University Line talaga sya. haha
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Old May 30th, 2018, 03:35 PM   #52
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technology should not be an issue. money is.

heres my options/opinion:
1. they could build a cable stayed bridge above LRT2.
2. if theres ample space below LRT2. then we can follow a cubao type of viaduct supports.
3. we can go underground under the underpass. haha.
4. we can widen the underpass. then rebuilt it again with a space allotted for the trains at both sides while roads above are still usable through a viaduct.
5. we can reroute everything. instead of quezon blvd, it will traverse evangelista which is parallel with quezon ave. it will be underground. will sprout back up when it reaches plaza Miranda then realign itself again with quezon blvd.
6. same as no.5 but it is above ground and will not realign with quezon blvd. but will traverse evangelista, villalobos then ducos. row issues though. will be above the recto station.
7. rebuild MRT2 to a higher one. 2 meters should probably be enough so it wont affect the approach towards the station. then accommodate the new line below.
8. reroute to nicanor reyes then malapang then gonzalo puyat then back to quezon blvd. ROW issues though.
9. the earnshaw routes looks doable but the market is not there. although we can circumvent it by plying Hidalgo after legarda instead of using P.Casal

the evangelista route doesn't seem viable since it will be parallel with LRT1.

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Hindi lang squatters, Manila City Jail will also be affected.
not really check google earth.
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Old May 31st, 2018, 05:33 AM   #53
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2. if theres ample space below LRT2. then we can follow a cubao type of viaduct supports.
Pwede to if this line will use a conductor rail (which is more likely). Imagine Rizal Ave. - Recto Station na tumatagos yung LRT-1 underneath LRT-2.
Baka pwede ding bawasan ng kaunti yung girder ng LRT-2?

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3. we can go underground under the underpass. haha.
Pwede rin, since hindi pwede beside the underpass (Parang sa EDSA Ayala) kase may pedestrian underpass nearby. We can utilize the pedestrian underpass and turn it into Lerma-Recto Station. Voila you have a station without doing much work, except for digging down deeper.

Look at the route the proposal stated. They're really keen on traversing the whole stretch of Quezon Blvd and Espaņa hanggang sa Lerma. So yun nga, Lerma area is a head scratcher for me. Nakalagay elevated ang Lerma station. Where exactly in Lerma? Bago lumiko ng Quezon Blvd? (Which for me, building a station above that area will be easier e.g. MRT Cubao) Or malapit sa Isetan para mas malapit sa LRT 1 and 2. What if gusto nila i-extend hanggang sa Plaza Miranda?

Pano kung galing ka ng Lerma station and you want to go to D. Jose station? Even with an elevated walkway, that's damn long walk.

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Just have the project create a stop/station just about after legarda near Hidalgo and San Sebastian st. not turn right through it . Then create an elevated walkway like what BKK did kasi hindi kaya nung sikip nang kalsada doon pa hidalgo and san sebastian church pag i dadaan dun ung lrt, i deretso na hanggang manila hotel yan then right turn to R10 then i connect sa LRT 2 pa divisoria.

halatang Manilan ako right pero overall im proud of this government.
Hold your Pinoy pride. This is unsolicited proposal stage only. Wait until they get the contract signed. But once signed, I'm sure this will go very fast. Megawide it seems is good for the money, lord knows PNR can use some money. Otherwise tulo laway.
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East-West Rail. Commuter or Metro??
LRTA OR PNR??
Pwede po bang **** explain kung anong pinag kaiba ng 4..

Ang alam ko lang, pag sinabing PNR eh kalawang na tren at skwater ang nasa ang na-iimagine ko..
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Old June 3rd, 2018, 04:23 AM   #56
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Meron namang nakalagay sa picture?!

You mean sa ilalim ng Espana Blvd may mga patay?
What I mean is the Dominicans are anti-progress group just like the leftist. They want to solve the flooding and traffic problems but they don't want to contribute for the solution initiated by Government
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What I mean is the Dominicans are anti-progress group just like the leftist. They want to solve the flooding and traffic problems but they don't want to contribute for the solution initiated by Government
I don't think they're anti-progress outside of theology. It's just that the UST admin has a VIP/elitist/delusion mindset. They think that UST is god given sent from heaven that any infrastructure that will soil it's "beauty" has to be prevented even if means agony to the surrounding area. Touch everything except UST and its grandeur something like that. Lol!

Anyway, what happened to the flyover that is supposed to be built alongside UST? Nagtagumpay ba ang mga Dominicans sa pagpigil nito?
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TBH, with the recent controversy with UST Law Student Atio Castillo's death due to hazing by his fellow UST students and the controversy surrounding its staff and alumni, I dunno if UST can be such a pompous *ss right now. If they fight this project, people can simply remind them that they can no longer be righteous and self entitled...
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my unsolicited suggestion regarding the UST station - that it turns a soft left southbound facing Earnshaw St. crossing Lacson from there and making a link to LRT2 Legarda Station as an intersection and then advancing downward traversing ayala bridge to National Museum skirting Intramuros with endpoint at Manila Hotel with a soft positioning turning right towards R10.

The small parcel of land along Espana/Lacson where RCJ Busline is stationed be reacquired for it to be UST-Lacson station. In that way it avoids fronting UST campus and the 63-67 dominicans will feel respected. win win situation pa for govt and business since tagusan pa sa Manila Hotel ang endpoint.

thats my take, wala lang.
EWR via Earnshaw/Bustillos? Pwede pero masyado nang mahal yun kung i-r-revise pa, lalo kung magdadag ng stations sa Lergarda connecting MRT-2, Ayala Bridge, Nat'l Museum/City Hall at Manila Hotel/Rizal Park saka mahabang proseso yun lalo't dadaan pa sa feasibility study (kahit sa tingin mo, feasible) ng developer at ng NEDA. For me, i'll stick to the original alignment, tapos i-redevelop to

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I don't think they're anti-progress outside of theology. It's just that the UST admin has a VIP/elitist/delusion mindset. They think that UST is god given sent from heaven that any infrastructure that will soil it's "beauty" has to be prevented even if means agony to the surrounding area. Touch everything except UST and its grandeur something like that. Lol!

Anyway, what happened to the flyover that is supposed to be built alongside UST? Nagtagumpay ba ang mga Dominicans sa pagpigil nito?
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What I mean is the Dominicans are anti-progress group just like the leftist. They want to solve the flooding and traffic problems but they don't want to contribute for the solution initiated by Government
Kaya hindi nagkaroon ng anti-flood infra (interceptor ata), yung underpass at flyover sa Espana at Lacson at rail line fronting UST is not just because of safety and security concerns, noise barriers para hindi mag-interrupt masyado yung mga classes sa bawat buildings, accessibility to campus, dahil ang dami ding dadaanan na proseso para matuloy yan - informing the Holy See (as in sa Santo Papa) for the infra due to its Pontifical status, proper consultation between the stakeholders and proponents of the project, contingency plans ng both parties on how will the construction be conducted, and many more.

Donated din kasi yung lupa na yan na pagmamay-ari originally ng isang Francesca Bustamante Bayot kaya dadaan din sa pamilya na yan ang project.
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Kaya hindi nagkaroon ng anti-flood infra (interceptor ata), yung underpass at flyover sa Espana at Lacson at rail line fronting UST is not just because of safety and security concerns, noise barriers para hindi mag-interrupt masyado yung mga classes sa bawat buildings, accessibility to campus, dahil ang dami ding dadaanan na proseso para matuloy yan - informing the Holy See (as in sa Santo Papa) for the infra due to its Pontifical status, proper consultation between the stakeholders and proponents of the project, contingency plans ng both parties on how will the construction be conducted, and many more.

Donated din kasi yung lupa na yan na pagmamay-ari originally ng isang Francesca Bustamante Bayot kaya dadaan din sa pamilya na yan ang project.
If that is the reason, then this proposed East-West rail should find another ROW for this project to start immediately. No need to argue with narrow mindset from UST and Dominicans. Subway along Espana (UST) is one of the solution for this but the problem is $$$.

Nagreklamo ba yung mga nasa UST nung nirenovate yung ospital along Lacson, mga facilities pati nung tinayo yung stadium nila? Sadyang ayaw lang nila ng ganyan project na may malaking impact sa community.
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