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Old January 3rd, 2018, 08:26 PM   #1
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Clark-Subic Rail

Neda’s ICC aims to secure Duterte’s approval of 3 big infra projects for 2018
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The Investment Coordination Committee (ICC) of the National Economic and Development Authority (Neda) would prioritize this year the pitching of three big-ticket infrastructure projects, which include two rail projects and an airport, for President Rodrigo Duterte’s approval.
Neda Undersecretary Rolando G. Tungpalan told reporters last week that among the projects to be fast tracked by the ICC include two public-private partnership (PPP) projects, namely: San Miguel Corp.’s proposed New ManilaInternational Airport; and the East-West Rail proposal submitted by the consortium of East West Rail Transit Corp. and AlloyMTD.
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Also a priority for ICC approval is the Clark-Subic Rail, Tungpalan said.
To be implemented by the Bases Conversion and Development Authority, the P57.6-billion Clark-Subic Rail is among the 75 “flagship” infrastructure projects to be rolled out by the Duterte administration under its ambitious “Build, Build, Build” program
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http://business.inquirer.net/243454/...#ixzz5397HVaOQ
Wow! With this, shopping at Duty Free shops in Clark and Subic would be faster and easier.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 06:58 AM   #3
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To make this more economically viable:

- they need to fully maximize the port potential of Subic, which is waaay underutilized right now.
- have a policy of using the riles lines for freight/cargo from Subic to Manila / beyond [in tandem with the planned rehabilitation of the PNR at-grade].

To do this, you need to confront head-on the Manila Port Cartel and this will have a massive effect on MVP's ongoing road/expressway projects going to the Manila Pier [goodluck].

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wet dream: Hop onboard a commuter train in LB, disembark at Tutuban Grand Central Terminal Station, transfer to Northrail commuter up to Clark, disembark for the final leg of the rail journey to Subic...*sana buhay pa if this materializes*
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Old January 7th, 2018, 10:57 AM   #5
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this will really make clark and subic an alternative to NCR
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Old January 28th, 2018, 09:19 PM   #6
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Economic team approves two railway projects
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The Duterte administration’s economic managers approved the implementation of the two proposed railway projects for Metro Manila, while the Department of Finance (DOF) is still studying San Miguel Corp.’s unsolicited proposal to build a new airport.
Finance Secretary Carlos G. Dominguez III, the government’s chief economic manager, said that they have approved the Subic-Clark Railway project and the increase in the cost of the Metro Manila subway project.
The National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) Investment Coordination Committee-Cabinet Committee (ICC CabCom) last Friday approved the P57.2-billion Subic-Clark Railway.
“That [Subic-Clark Railway] will be part of the railway network… when it’s all completed all the ports will be connected by railway from Batangas to Subic to Metro Manila,” Dominguez told reporters in an interview at the DOF headquarters.
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Old January 29th, 2018, 11:42 AM   #7
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OT but relevant:

Has any President, as head of the NEDA Board, rejected any project/proposal already approved by the NEDA-ICC?
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Old January 29th, 2018, 11:53 AM   #8
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OT but relevant:

Has any President, as head of the NEDA Board, rejected any project/proposal already approved by the NEDA-ICC?
No projects were ever rejected by the President but there were some projects that never got confirmed.
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Old January 31st, 2018, 10:02 AM   #9
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NEDA panel gives Subic-Clark Railway project the green light
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Published January 29, 2018 4:20pm

The Investment Coordination Committee-Cabinet Committee (ICC-CabCom) of the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) has approved the P57.6-billion Subic-Clark Railway Project connecting Subic Bay and the Clark Freeport Zone.

It was approved on Friday, January 26, NEDA said in a statement Monday.

The rail line will provide freight connection between Subic Bay and the Clark Freeport Zone to address the infrastructure needs for a freight railway system in Luzon.

It will link Subic Port with Clark International Airport and other major economic hubs in Central Luzon such as the planned New Clark City.

“This joint project of the Department of Transportation (DOTr) and the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) is one of the Duterte administration’s 75 flagship projects, ” NEDA said.

The initial stages of the project— conceptualization and feasibility studies—started in October 2016. It is targeted to be completed in April 2021, according to the government’s Build, Build, Build website.

The project is now up for approval of the NEDA Board headed by President Rodrigo Duterte.

The ICC-CabCom also approved a higher cost for the Metro Manila Subway Project (MMSP)-Phase I at P356.96 billion or P1.375 billion more than the earlier estimate of P355.58 billion.

“The increase in the project cost of the MMSP was based on the appraisal of the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), which will finance the said project through an Office Development Assistance (ODA) loan package,” NEDA said.

The Mega Manila Subway is a 25-kilometer underground mass transportation system connecting the major business districts and government centers in the metropolis.

The government plans to spend over P8 trillion until 2022 on the golden age of infrastructure, largely funded by tax revenue.

This year alone, the Philippines plans to roll out 76 big-ticket projects cumulatively valued at $35.5 billion or P1.1 trillion
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Old January 31st, 2018, 04:03 PM   #10
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i think this Clark-Subic freight rail is really important esp if you are to develop Clark. need to transfer materials from abroad going to clark from Subic seems a little bit better rather than the materials going to manila first before going to Clark.

I guess in the future they will include normal passenger train or probably a spur line to manila. subic-manila should be profitable in next decade.
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Old February 1st, 2018, 03:09 PM   #11
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I hope that with this new rail line would help Subic meet Gordon’ old dream for it to be like our version of HongKong... i hope more investments and businesses come to Subic as Clark becomes more urbanized with the upcoming New Clark City...
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Old February 2nd, 2018, 02:09 AM   #12
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as mentioned: "economic viability" / ayaw ng mga trucking companies yan

Though compare ODA projects to PPP Projects

Must glaring example right now: LRT2 (JICA) vis-a-vis MRT-7 (SMC)

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Over the last week, NEDA announced that two projects have passed their screening and awaiting President Duterte’s approval. One is the Mindanao Railway and the other is the Subic-Clark railway. Both are funded by ODA which means taxpayers will eventually pay their costs.

It is because public funds are involved that NEDA should more carefully screen such projects as to viability and need. Experts I have talked to think these two rail projects are potential white elephants.

Indeed, when the staff of the Foundation for Economic Freedom asked for a copy of the Subic-Clark feasibility study approved by NEDA, the request was declined. Confidential daw. The truth is, they can’t let a bunch of independent economists review it because it is indefensible. Freedom of Information be dammed.

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As for the P57.6 billion Subic-Clark Railway, it is being justified as a part of a rail network connecting Subic with the Manila and Batangas ports. But an expert I consulted remains unconvinced it should be built.

“I’m still not convinced it makes sense for cargo. You still need double handling with rail; and you still don’t get the efficiency of long haul travel—whether its 70 km or 500 km plus. There’s no long haul for the Philippines; the country doesn’t have the scale of India or China. If decent roads (not congested) parallel a railway, general cargo is typically dominated by trucking.”

“Note that railways were built in the country before decent roads were built. That’s when PNR freight traffic thrived. Once roads were built and truck-bus competition was in place, the PNR lost most of its market share.”

I am told by experts that traditionally, and in general, cargo movements less than 1,000 km are moved thru highways. Said one: “Cargo rail for that distance of 70 kilometers will be more expensive than trucking.”

Honestly, we are really only talking of the Subic-Clark leg. Absolutely nothing will happen to connect that to Manila, much less to Batangas in the next five years or more. If a stand alone is all we are talking about, this is one project that should be left in the back burner.

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Indeed, SCTEX and the Angeles to Dinalupihan national highway can very well handle the cargo traffic between Subic and Clark for quite a while.
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Old February 2nd, 2018, 04:27 AM   #13
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Di na ako nakikinig kay Boo. Minsan may mga mali mali sa cnasabi nya
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actually, initial reaction din ng forumers nung wala pang sariling thread to is similar dyan. It's more a question of viability, and that the money might be better spent on other rail lines instead.
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To be honest, Boo Chanco does have a point. Cargo via truck is usually much more efficient and direct with rail better for long haul. But is it possible for passenger rail to use it when rail freight is not being used as frequently? Or do you need to change the rail gauge and/or build a separate railway?
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To be honest, Boo Chanco does have a point. Cargo via truck is usually much more efficient and direct with rail better for long haul. But is it possible for passenger rail to use it when rail freight is not being used as frequently? Or do you need to change the rail gauge and/or build a separate railway?
You can use rail for passenger and cargo simultaneously but there should be railway signalling if it's a single-track railway. The issue with Clark-Subic Rail is that the cost of transporting cargo via rail might be a bit more expensive and cannot compete with trucks plying SCTEX since road traffic isn't as bad in Subic and Olangapo as compared to Metro Manila.
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Unless pag nakaconnect ito sa Main line from La Union all the way to bicol pede pa un kahit batangas lang viable na rin nu?
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Kaya importante yung freight/cargo rail component ng Tutuban-Clark/Elbi/downwards commuter line.

Kasi meh point talaga si Boo: Subic-Clark rail kung yun lang will not be economically viable. SCTEx at the present cn more than handle trucking traffic.

Batangas, potek baka sa 2050 pa yan
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Clark-Subic Railway has to be connected to the Manila-Clark Railway in order for it to be economically viable. Don’t just focus on its cargo/freight ops, also open it for passenger ops as well. Passenger and cargo ops can work simultaneously and will make this railway line exonomically viable if connected to the Manila-Clark railway.
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That ODA money is better spent with other projects. Like just use it for Clark Airport-Pangasinan-La Union passenger rail. This will make Clark viable as an airport of the north
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