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Old August 2nd, 2019, 05:45 PM   #21
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The shortest route from Manila to NMIA is through Navotas.
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Old August 2nd, 2019, 07:51 PM   #22
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Just a question: How long would it take to travel say from Makati area to this proposed Airport on a normal day by car? Do u guys think travel time would take more than an hour? Thanks!
Today it will probably take you give or take 2 hours without heavy traffic. During rush hours it will probably take you 3-5 hours.

By the time it is done, Both NLEX connector and Skyway will be operational so probably 1 hour best case, worst case 2 hours.
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Old August 3rd, 2019, 01:46 PM   #23
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Old August 3rd, 2019, 04:33 PM   #24
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The shortest route from Manila to NMIA is through Navotas.
That's good. Means NMIA will provide some sort of greater drive to develop not only Navotas but Camanava in general. Medyo left out yung Camanava sa mga infra projects natin eh.
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Old August 3rd, 2019, 07:25 PM   #25
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Aside from rail sana may dedicated na expressway din...
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Old August 4th, 2019, 05:32 AM   #26
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There are enough spaces along the edge of Navotas on Manila Bay for rail and expressway.
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Old August 6th, 2019, 04:55 AM   #27
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No need for HSR type for NAIA-NMIA. Sayang yung HSR Capability kung ilalagay mo lang sa ganyan kaiksing linya.. remember after 10 km pa ng takbo ng HSR train mamamaximize ang speed nito dahil sa acceleration.

Dedicated na 120Kph to 180Kph train ang kailangan dyan.

NAIA's sole advantage to Clark, Sangley and NMIA is its proximity to financial and commercial district hubs in MM. On a normal busy day, its 30 minutes away from Makati, BGC, Manila, parts of Pasig, San juan and 45 mins to QC. In order for NMIA or any other airport to become the future main gateway is to match that or better, beat that.

NMIA to NAIA and inner parts of MM (Makati, Taguig, Pasay) by HSR will just be 15-20mins or even less.
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Old August 6th, 2019, 05:47 AM   #28
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Just *finally* read this thread (thank goodness it has no trolls or infighting.. ) and if this Express Train by SMC were to end in Balintawak, why not extent MRT7 from the Common Station to Balintawak, and let it go all the way to the Bulacan Airport? Diba mas okay yun?

Its not that far and to maintain the "Express to Metro Manila", it could have no stops between Balintawak and the airport.
It would fulfill their goal for easy access to Metro Manila and even give people an option for a one seat ride from the Bulacan airport to the Common Station where they can access other rail lines and the Metro Manila subway.

I think that is better than doing a stand alone line to Balintawak. Like seriously? Who would want to take that airport train just to Balintawak, then transfer to LRT1, then other lines if their financial destination is to Ortigas, BGC, Makati, Cubao, or other areas where LRT1 has no direct access?

The only barrier I can think of this happening is if there are some legal mumbo jumbo that would prevent SMC from extending MRT7...
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Just *finally* read this thread (thank goodness it has no trolls or infighting.. ) and if this Express Train by SMC were to end in Balintawak, why not extent MRT7 from the Common Station to Balintawak, and let it go all the way to the Bulacan Airport? Diba mas okay yun?

Its not that far and to maintain the "Express to Metro Manila", it could have no stops between Balintawak and the airport.
It would fulfill their goal for easy access to Metro Manila and even give people an option for a one seat ride from the Bulacan airport to the Common Station where they can access other rail lines and the Metro Manila subway.

I think that is better than doing a stand alone line to Balintawak. Like seriously? Who would want to take that airport train just to Balintawak, then transfer to LRT1, then other lines if their financial destination is to Ortigas, BGC, Makati, Cubao, or other areas where LRT1 has no direct access?

The only barrier I can think of this happening is if there are some legal mumbo jumbo that would prevent SMC from extending MRT7...
My take: If SMC will do some adjustments, they can take the following options:

1. Connect directly to the Common Station; or
2. Connect to Monumento and Common Station with dedicated parallel lines along LRT1.

Option 1 is the most practical.
Option 2 is more expensive, but it takes off some of the passenger congestion at the Common Station by an interchange at Monumento.
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Old August 6th, 2019, 10:34 AM   #30
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in the end baka nga I connect lang nila yan sa pinakamalapit na legit train station to their vicinity like Marilao NSCR.
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Old August 6th, 2019, 12:31 PM   #31
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in the end baka nga I connect lang nila yan sa pinakamalapit na legit train station to their vicinity like Marilao NSCR.
Malamang sa malamang ito mangyayari.
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Old August 6th, 2019, 04:35 PM   #32
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Maganda sana parang sa hk airport express...3 main stops lang tapos exclusive line siya...
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Old August 8th, 2019, 03:49 AM   #33
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RSA says that its Fast Rail will be some 200kms long. Looking at the map, if connect Clark Green City to Clark Airport to NMIA to NAIA and terminate at Calamba -- its about 160KMs already on several connected straight lines. Wishful thinking, but I see this logical. SMC is building SLEX TR4 along with 3 other expressways down south. All of which meet at a segment of SLEX in Calamba. Up north it has TPlex and plans to push it further north.

A fast train terminal in Calamba that can take you to NAIA in 15mins, to NMIA in 30 mins and to Clark in less than an hour is an orgasmic experience to any Juan in south.

A fast train that can take a fellow from the Ilocos to Clark airport in 30mins, NMIA in an hour or in NAIA in less than 90mins is equally fun. Agree?
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Old August 8th, 2019, 03:58 AM   #34
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RSA says that its Fast Rail will be some 200kms long. Looking at the map, if connect Clark Green City to Clark Airport to NMIA to NAIA and terminate at Calamba -- its about 160KMs already on several connected straight lines. Wishful thinking, but I see this logical. SMC is building SLEX TR4 along with 3 other expressways down south. All of which meet at a segment of SLEX in Calamba. Up north it has TPlex and plans to push it further north.

A fast train terminal in Calamba that can take you to NAIA in 15mins, to NMIA in 30 mins and to Clark in less than an hour is an orgasmic experience to any Juan in south.

A fast train that can take a fellow from the Ilocos to Clark airport in 30mins, NMIA in an hour or in NAIA in less than 90mins is equally fun. Agree?
Wala naman problema dyan kaya yan kung financial pero ang tanong kakayanin ba ng mga commuters yung pamasahe?
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Old August 8th, 2019, 05:35 AM   #35
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Wala naman problema dyan kaya yan kung financial pero ang tanong kakayanin ba ng mga commuters yung pamasahe?
I think onti onti kakayanin din ng commuters specially as more Filipinos can afford to fly and travel. Yun p2p bus to Clark airport for example 250 to 300 pamasahe pero pinipili parin ng tao na sumakay dun. Pwede naman sila mag NAIA sumakay tapos City Bus para mas mura pero ok lang sakanila na medyo mahal basta less hassle.
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in the end baka nga I connect lang nila yan sa pinakamalapit na legit train station to their vicinity like Marilao NSCR.
Feeling ko din eto gagawin. Need bawiin investment eh kaya titipirin. Pero ang hassle neto pag nagkataon.

Para makapunta ang isang business traveller to Makati for example:
NMIA to Marilao>Marilao to Tutuban>Tutuban to Makati>Makati train station taxi to CBD

4 modes dinaanan

If sa Balintawak naman via LRT1:

-NMIA to Balintawak>Balintawak to Gil Puyat> Taxi to CBD or
-NMIA to Balintawak>Balintawak to Common Station>Common Station to Ayala Station(L3)>Long walk to CBD or Taxi or Makati Subway


If sa Mindanao Ave via MM Subway:
-NMIA to Subway station>Subway station to Kalayaan station>Kalayaan station to Makati Subway then short walk

If MRT 7 is just extended to NMIA:
-NMIA to Common Station>Common Station to Kalayaan station>Kalayaan to Makati Subway then short walk

If MM Subway is extended to NMIA:
-NMIA to Kalayaan station>Kalayaan station to Makati Subway then short walk
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Old August 8th, 2019, 08:06 AM   #37
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Airline travellers usually have 1 or 2 luggages. In our LRT/MRT these days, one could hardly insert himself/herself inside the train. How much more with luggages?
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Old August 8th, 2019, 09:25 AM   #38
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SMC should offer check-in services on the trains stations as well, just like with HK's Airport Express and Taiwan's Taoyuan Airport MRT with dedicated baggage cars.
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Feeling ko din eto gagawin. Need bawiin investment eh kaya titipirin. Pero ang hassle neto pag nagkataon.

Para makapunta ang isang business traveller to Makati for example:
NMIA to Marilao>Marilao to Tutuban>Tutuban to Makati>Makati train station taxi to CBD

4 modes dinaanan

If sa Balintawak naman via LRT1:

-NMIA to Balintawak>Balintawak to Gil Puyat> Taxi to CBD or
-NMIA to Balintawak>Balintawak to Common Station>Common Station to Ayala Station(L3)>Long walk to CBD or Taxi or Makati Subway


If sa Mindanao Ave via MM Subway:
-NMIA to Subway station>Subway station to Kalayaan station>Kalayaan station to Makati Subway then short walk

If MRT 7 is just extended to NMIA:
-NMIA to Common Station>Common Station to Kalayaan station>Kalayaan to Makati Subway then short walk

If MM Subway is extended to NMIA:
-NMIA to Kalayaan station>Kalayaan station to Makati Subway then short walk
Di yata kasama sa epxress train stations ang Marilao. Kung kasama yan mas madali para sa mga nasa South

Di mo na kailangan dumaan ng Tutuban dahil diretso ng Calamba yung train depende pa sa klase kung express train, commuter train etc. Nasa past pages yung magiging operation per train type.
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Old August 8th, 2019, 01:40 PM   #40
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Di yata kasama sa epxress train stations ang Marilao. Kung kasama yan mas madali para sa mga nasa South

Di mo na kailangan dumaan ng Tutuban dahil diretso ng Calamba yung train depende pa sa klase kung express train, commuter train etc. Nasa past pages yung magiging operation per train type.
Upon checking meron nga 2 options no need to go to Tutuban:
-Commuter Express CIA-Calamba. Ang baba mo if Marilao to Makati eh sa Buendia. 5 stops bago makarating
-Commuter CIA-Calamba. Same place ang baba 11 stops.

So if SMC connects this to Marilao ganito na sya.

NMIA to Marilao Station>Marilao to Buendia>Buendia to CBD by Taxi

It's not great, but it's not bad either if your travelling light as a business traveller who will be in the city for 1-3 days.

Ang hassle is if you're an OFW na malaki luggage.
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