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Old June 14th, 2019, 12:50 AM   #41
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It's nearly like thst now. It's startling the amount of people you meet who think anyone outside of Liverpool is basically inferior. It is a village mentality and is a big problem.

If you're thinking of feelings towars wiokybacks, Liverpool is not the only city in the world which regards people from beyond its borders as yokels
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Liverpool accepts people from many cultures but there's no little Liverpool, what is clear is that assimilation is much stronger here than divided mill towns. People coming here become Scousers very quickly. I have Scouse mates who are Black, Chinese, Muslim, Greek, Polish, and all sorts of mixtures, people still have backgrounds but we share our Scouse identity.

I love it when someone from Abroadland is speaking English in their native accent, then suddenly injects some phrase like 'dat's boss, la' halfway through the sentence
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Old June 14th, 2019, 01:07 AM   #43
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I love it when someone from Abroadland is speaking English in their native accent, then suddenly injects some phrase like 'dat's boss, la' halfway through the sentence
I would argue that this is no longer restricted to Liverpool 8. Granted Bootle's not diverse but some areas of the north end are; when i say diversity though i acknowledge backgrounds but unlike multiculturalists i prefer to see things wgich we have in common. As I've aged I've become more aware of difference but what's remarkable about Liverpool is how folk from very different walks of life are all the same. Inclusively.
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It's nearly like thst now. It's startling the amount of people you meet who think anyone outside of Liverpool is basically inferior. It is a village mentality and is a big problem.
A village mentality partly stems from a lack of diversity. Areas of the city are overwhelmingly white British/scouse while certainly central Liverpool is much more diverse and into the south end.
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I would argue that this is no longer restricted to Liverpool 8. Granted Bootle's not diverse but some areas of the north end are; when i say diversity though i acknowledge backgrounds but unlike multiculturalists i prefer to see things wgich we have in common. As I've aged I've become more aware of difference but what's remarkable about Liverpool is how folk from very different walks of life are all the same. Inclusively.

Where I am (L13) is reasonably diverse these days. They've even let grumpy Irishmen in.

I agree that a degree of integration is a good thing to prevent segregation, though it's a two way process which requires tolerance and understanding on the part of the 'indigenous' population and institutions as well.

Perhaps it's naivete on my part, but I get the impression that non-white British people in Britain tend to integrate better in Liverpool than in at least some other parts of Britain. I wonder whether that's because of the city's long history of immigration (even if we tend to view this with rose-tinted spectacles by overlooking some fairly shocking examples of intolerance down the years), or whether it's bexause we've tended to attract not larger groups of immigrants from a single background (as happened in many places where certain industries were dominant, and recruited immigrant workers from particular areas), but smaller and more various groups who've been more inclined to integrate as a result
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Where I am (L13) is reasonably diverse these days. They've even let grumpy Irishmen in.

I agree that a degree of integration is a good thing to prevent segregation, though it's a two way process which requires tolerance and understanding on the part of the 'indigenous' population and institutions as well.

Perhaps it's naivete on my part, but I get the impression that non-white British people in Britain tend to integrate better in Liverpool than in at least some other parts of Britain. I wonder whether that's because of the city's long history of immigration (even if we tend to view this with rose-tinted spectacles by overlooking some fairly shocking examples of intolerance down the years), or whether it's bexause we've tended to attract not larger groups of immigrants from a single background (as happened in many places where certain industries were dominant, and recruited immigrant workers from particular areas), but smaller and more various groups who've been more inclined to integrate as a result
I think that's the case in most big cities. Immigration is only one factor in it but most big cities voted Remain (Liverpool, Manchester, London, Leeds, Newcastle, Bristol), vast majority of towns were heavily Brexit which swung the result.
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Old June 14th, 2019, 07:11 PM   #47
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Back on subject though I believe down the line we will do but while we have lots (and we do) of vacant central land we’ll see lots of developments around 10-20 floor range and then as space becomes more limited it will grow up. I think areas which are designated for ‘talls’ though should be reserved for them. We can’t put a 50 floor building next door to the liver building so it should work both ways imho
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I would argue that this is no longer restricted to Liverpool 8. Granted Bootle's not diverse but some areas of the north end are; when i say diversity though i acknowledge backgrounds but unlike multiculturalists i prefer to see things wgich we have in common. As I've aged I've become more aware of difference but what's remarkable about Liverpool is how folk from very different walks of life are all the same. Inclusively.
To be far, Bootle is a lot more diverse than you might think. Certainly much more so than it used to be. Always east Europeans on the bus when travelling through. Far more black faces (Africans) too. Even a Brazilian store on Stanley Road. Immigrants have settled in L21 and L30, too. The obvious point is that Liverpool was a multi cultural city when it was booming. Probably only London more so. Those days are long gone, but compared to the 70's/80's I suggest far more foreign people are settling here.
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