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Old March 11th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #41
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Wow 21 GW capacity is great achievement!
Well according to Adam_Indias link below, it's actually up to nearly 24 GW

Which im quite relieved to know, cos I was starting to think I must've made some major error on the first page somewhere if the total is only meant to be 21 GW!

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Well according to Adam_Indias link below, it's actually up to nearly 24 GW

Which im quite relieved to know, cos I was starting to think I must've made some major error on the first page somewhere if the total is only meant to be 21 GW!
First of all.. Thanks Adam_India for the link...

Glad to know we have 24GW of installed capacity, but we are still no. 2 and Maharashtra (Maha.) is no. 1 with almost 28GW... Looking not far behind in Jun 2011 we were at 15GW and Maha. were at 23GW and now in 1 yr 9 months we are at 24GW and Maha. are at 28GW.. So we are heading fast to become no. 1

However three things that struck my mind:

1. State installed capacity which we are at 3970MW and Maha. are more than double at 8400MW. We have more private players than State owned. Now don't know if this is good thing to have private players as I guess the profit would go to private players and Guj. govt can't make electricity cheaper.

2. Hydro Renewable source generation.. we have 772MW and Maha. have 3331MW, that's almost 4 times. Even MP have 3223MW, HP and Punjab are also around 3000MW of it. So what does exactly fall in here? Generation from water dams or anythng else as well? Whatever it would be.. I see this area where we need to invest more...

3. RES (I guess Solar falls here.. right?).. Again we have 3714MW, however other states are at par with that as well. Maha at 3934MW, Karnataka at 3384MW and Tamil Nadu - no. 1 at 7503MW, etc. What are other RES mode other than Solar?

Even though we are no. 2 right now, most of it comes from conventional source, I hope in future the percentage of conventional source goes down as compared to other sources...

Any views on the listed three points GJ10 and others?
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of course Maharashtra is basically double the size and population of Gujarat, so being 2nd with such a small gap is still pretty good.

I'll have a go at answering the questions:

1) There's positives and negatives on both sides of Private vs State owned power. State Govt doesn't have to put up the huge capital expenditure to build power plants - Adani huge Mundra plant costs more than entire 3phases of Ahmedabad Metro for example. Roughly 4000Cr per 1000MW plant - before you even start producing any electricity.

The thing which imo has been a big advantage for Gujarat in the last few years especially is that Govt buys power from Private producers through long-term power purchase agreements (PPAs), which are between 20 and 35 yrs. During that time the Govt (and consumers) are insulated from fluctuations in coal/gas prices. Tatas Mundra UMPP (a Central Govt project) has been trying to renogiate its PPAs for ages, it is basically losing money because their original calculations were based on a much lower coal price and availability of imports from Indonesia.

2) Yeah, Hydroelectric is only from dams on rivers, Mahi river at Kadana, Tapi at Ukai and of course Narmada at Sardar Sarovar Dam (shared with other states) are Gujarats only real options for Hydroelectric. Although potential to increase Hydroelectric production is of the side-arguments for raising the height of Sardar Sarovar dam.

3) RES = Renewable Energy Source. Practically only Solar and Wind power in there at the moment. Gujarat leads for Solar outright, other states have more Wind Power, Tamil Nadu is the leader in that regard.

However, its unfortunately become apparent that Wind power is quite unreliable, with actual production often at a fraction of "installed capacity" when there is no wind, so the RES numbers need to be taken with a pinch of salt. This has been very noticeable during the Tamil Nadu power crisis. Solar in North Gujarat, Kutch and Saurashtra is far more reliable. Scope for Solar in these parts of Gujarat is massive. The latest thing Govt of Gujarat is looking at is Tidal Power.

Agree that moving towards a less conventional energy basket is a good move. Current combination of RES+Hydro = 18.7% of installed capacity. Which is pretty high by global standards (better than UK, USA, even EU average), Germany was at 25% last year which is should be a good reference point for Gujarat.

Although its still technically a conventional source, a lot of the State Govt Coal plants have been converted to Gas, which is a good step both economically and environmentally.
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It would be wise to focus a bit on renewables and on conservation as well. While I concur the state has come a long way from GEB days, a bit of focus on pollution and global warming is warranted as well.
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Also Gujarat consumes the most electricity, followed closely by Punjab...
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Also Gujarat consumes the most electricity, followed closely by Punjab...
Thanks GJ10 for the response. May be by 2015 or at max 2017.. I am sure we would overtake Maha as no. 1.. But yes, I hope the percentage of RES and Hydro power goes up to 25-30% by that time...

Rushabh,

I doubt if that's correct.. with what figures we have.. Maha is most industrialized than us and have population almost double than us.. so I would see them consuming more than us...

Not sure if you meant per capita consumption rather than total consumption.. As in total I doubt if we are first, but I am hoping we would be first in per capita consumption..

Again do anyone have a link showing total consumption and per capita consumption per state??

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Yeah, I meant per-capita

Here's the figures for 09-10...

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Yeah, I meant per-capita

Here's the figures for 09-10...

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Thanks Rushabh for the link

Just one correction to your statement above then.. Goa is first, Punjab second and Guj is third in terms of states.. Still not bad to see us third...
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Yeah. But then Goa is not comparable with Gujarat. So ideally for the larger states it must be 1st Punjab, 2nd Gujarat...
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Technically, if you include the Ranns, Kutch District is bigger than states like Haryana, Kerala, Punjab, & Himachal. Strange but true!

Gujarat Power PSUs get top marks from Centre

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In a survey conducted for the first time by the Union power ministry on financial health and efficiency of state-owned power distribution companies, only four units got A+ grading and all of them were from Gujarat, state’s energy minister Saurabh Patel said in the Assembly on Thursday.

The minister, however, added that despite sending a written report to the Gujarat government in this regard, the Centre did not felicitate these four companies.

According to Patel, directors of these companies were informed that the results would be declared in Delhi on March 19 and best companies would be awarded.

Patel said the South Gujarat Vij Company Limited got 91.6 marks, North Gujarat Vij Company Limited got 89.93, Madhya Gujarat Vij Company Limited 89.59 and Paschim Gujarat Vij Company Limited got 80.23 marks.
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That bit about the power ministry cancelling the event because the top 4 companies were from Gujarat was hilarious.

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His excuse was he wants to highlight "improvement"

And obviously as 3 of Gujarati ones are already at ~90% they are basically never going to be recognised as there's such little room for improvement.

It's not like Gujaratis don't know that the Power situation is the best in the country, don't need some UPA award to tell us that.
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Yeah, keep your stinking awards to yourselves.
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x-posting from the Troll against Modi thread

Cargo handling at Major Ports drops to 4 year low

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The sharp decline in export and import volumes consequent to a growth slowdown in the Indian economy has hit the country’s Central Government-controlled major ports, even while the so-called minor ports, mainly in Gujarat, have bucked the trend.

The fiscal ending March 2013 saw cargo handled by the 12 major ports shrink by 2.5 per cent, to 545 million tonnes (mt), from 561 mt in 2011-12. That makes it the lowest in last four years.

On the other hand, the likes of Mundra, Hazira and other ‘non-major’ ports, coming under the jurisdiction of Gujarat Government, registered a 13 per cent growth, handling 292 mt.

In other words, privately-operated ports in Gujarat alone handled over 53 per cent cargo handled by all ports. For major ports, this is the second consecutive year when they handled lower cargo than the previous year.

Within major ports, those that registered growth include Paradip, Ennore, New Mangalore and Mumbai.

Major ports handled about 60 per cent of cargo handled across ports, according to 2011-12 data.

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“A sharp fall in iron ore exports has hit most of the major ports and even some non-major ports. Ban on iron ore exports from Karnataka has affected minor ports like Belekeri in Karnataka, which was handling cargo from the Bellary Hospet region,” said Shailesh Garg, Director, Drewry Consulting India.

“While drop in iron ore export cargo has pulled down many major ports, Gujarat ports are benefiting from liquid cargo and coal. Ports in Gujarat serve refineries in the West and North. Major ports traffic continues to be hit by competition from non-major ports,” echoed Anand V. Sharma, Director, Mantrana Maritime Advisory.

Drewry’s Garg attributed the growth of Gujarat ports largely to Mundra port, which has benefited from capacity constraint at JN port coupled with new capacity development at Mundra.

Within ports in Gujarat, cargo at Mundra Port, handled by listed firm Adani Port SEZ, registered a whopping 33 per cent growth. “In Mundra, we handled 83 mt cargo in fiscal 2012-13 against 62 mt in 2011-12,” Rajeeva Sinha, Director, Adani Port SEZ, said.
Kandla at 93mt in 2012-13 with growth of 13% link (excel spreadsheet)
Mundra at 83mt in 2012-13 with growth of 33%

Will be close to see which Kutchi port crosses the 100mt mark first, both will def manage it at some point this fiscal.
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I am happy they banned exports of Iron Ore. India has some good quality Iron ore and they should utilize it locally rather than export it to China. That way I get to keep my job for longer too muhahaha.
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Lokhandi Purush?
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I eat a lot of iron in the field so I guess lokhandi purush sounds about right haha
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This is something that was hinted at a while back when the tariff issues were first mentioned, will be interesting to see if it actually happens. Between Tata and Adani, installed capacity at Mundra would be pretty crazy.

Tata Power plans to increase Mundra UMPP capacity

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Tata Power has plans to expand generation capacity of 4,000-MW Mundra plant, the country's first operational ultra mega power project, to 5,600 MW, a company official said.

"Tata Power is exploring setting up additional two units of 800 MW each expanding the overall capacity of the Mundra power plant project from 4,000 MW to 5,600 MW," the Executive Director and CEO of Coastal Gujarat Power Ltd (CGPL), the wholly-owned subsidiary of Tata Power executing the Mundra UMPP, Krishna Kumar Sharma, told PTI.

He said that these two units are not covered through any existing arrangement for pricing and thus could participate in any new Case 1 bidding with imported coal.

Generally in Case 1 bidding, the developer decides on the fuel and location, among others. "As and when the Case 1 bidding is successful, these (proposed) two units will be contracted," Sharma said.

Noting that the cost of generation would depend on the type of coal and capital costs, Sharma said that appropriate funding would be arranged.

"We are reviewing all our options before we can finalise on the project. As regards land, we had kept provision for future expansion of two units in the layout," he added.

Currently, Mundra UMPP has five units of 800 MW each. Electricity produced from the plant is being supplied to five states -- Gujarat, Rajasthan, Punjab, Haryana and Maharashtra.

The Central Electricity Regulatory Commission ( CERC) in April had asked entities procuring power from Mundra UMPP to form an expert panel to decide on compensating the company for higher cost of coal imports from Indonesia.

The ruling came on CGPL plea that sought relief on account of adverse impact of the unforeseen, uncontrollable and unprecedented escalation in the imported coal price.
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State clears Mithivirdi N-power project

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Gandhinagar: Gujarat Coastal Zone Management Authority has quietly given the Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) clearance to the controversial proposal for a nuclear power plant at Mithivirdi village in Bhavnagar district.The plant is to be built by Nuclear Power Corporation of India Limited (NPCIL).

Sources in the states forest and environment department said that the NPCIL had sent the proposal for CRZ clearance in January this year.After scrutiny,the state government gave clearance for the 6,000 MW nuclear power plant and also recommended the project to the Union ministry of forests and environment for final CRZ clearance.

A representative of the NPCIL made a presentation before the technical committee on March 25,2013,on the activities proposed to be carried out in the CRZ area.The environment impact assessment report prepared by Engineers India Limited and the CRZ map along with boundaries demarcated by Anna University were approved, a source said.

Both the BJP government in Gujarat and the Congressled UPA government at the Centre are pushing hard for the Rs 60,000 crore nuclear power plant.
Earlier,in March this year,a crucial public hearing on the proposed project was organized.Several farmers groups,NGOs,and anti-nuclear power plant activists opposed to the project attended the hearing.

Former BJP MLA and leading farmers leader Dr Kanu Kalsaria said,The project will not only damage the environment but snatch away the livelihood of farmers.It will also be a permanent threat to the people.

A total of 777 hectares are to be acquired for the project out of which 603 hectares is rich agricultural land.

Along with Mithivirdi nuclear power plant,the Gujarat government has also given CRZ clearance for the proposed barrage project across Narmada near Bhadbhut in Bharuch district and the common effluent disposal pipeline project along river Kolak proposed by Wel-Treat Enviro Management Organization.

CRZ clearance for the 50 MW tidal power project near Mandvi in Kutch proposed by Gujarat Power Corporation Limited was also granted by the authority.
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