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Old July 17th, 2014, 02:59 PM   #21
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^he hasn't got a chance to win, though. If you've read the reports from the FIFA congress that took place in Brazil at the start of the World Cup, you'll know why.
The strongest recent rumours are that UEFA are looking for someone new and fresh as their candidate, such as the Dutch FA president.
He brought up the 40 team world cup idea back in October before Sepp Blatter had gone back on his promise that this would be his final term of office. Platini backed away when he realized Blatter would run again.

Even if it's not Platini I'm sure another candidate would put forward world cup expansion as well. It's the easiest way to gain votes when the FIFA presidency finally becomes available.
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He brought up the 40 team world cup idea back in October before Sepp Blatter had gone back on his promise that this would be his final term of office. Platini backed away when he realized Blatter would run again.

Even if it's not Platini I'm sure another candidate would put forward world cup expansion as well. It's the easiest way to gain votes when the FIFA presidency finally becomes available.
Like said already, the 40 team WC idea was a counter-proposal in reaction to Blatter's idea of spreading the WC more by slashing down the European allocation (by which it was obvious that Blatter was - informally - campaigning already). It's just politicians playing for the gallery; in reality they both know that 32 teams is the perfect format and changing it would harm the WC both in a sporting sense and financially. Even Blatter knows that, I don't think he actually means it about downsizing the European participation; he's signalling his supporters that his attitude to them remains the same. But what he's actually giving them now is, for example, the two hundred million euro bonus (which, when this was announced at the FIFA congress I mentioned, got the various FA representatives from all over the world to stand up and cheer, the only time during the whole congress ).

But right now, if you'd slash even one or two European places, it can really detract from the WC, both on the pitch and by affecting the European TV markets that FIFA cares so much about. For example, slashing one place from Europe at this WC by not having the lowest ranked European team that qualified would have meant not having France. And to the others who think 32 teams is too much, think at the fact that slashing 8 teams between all the confederations would have meant losing at France, Mexico (4th place in Concacaf, had to go through a play-off), Uruguay (ditto), Australia (last qualifying spot in Asia), Nigeria (4th best ranked of the African qualified teams), not just deadwood like Cameroon, Honduras and (arguably) Russia. IMO this World Cup has proved exactly why 32 teams is the ideal format.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #23
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in reality they both know that 32 teams is the perfect format and changing it would harm the WC both in a sporting sense and financially
Platini is the guy who expanded the Euro to 24 teams despite the 16 team format being universally described as "perfect". That happened, it wasn't just playing to the crowd. He also weakened the champions league group stage by giving weak teams from smaller leagues an easier qualifying path. Then look at what he did to the UEFA Cup/Europa League. Platini has a well documented track record of expanding, weakening and watering down competitions. When he says he would expand the world cup his track record should lead us to believe he means it.
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^it wasn't universally described as perfect. In many countries (like mine) that fail regularly to qualify at tournaments, the EURO expansion has had a much better welcome. In the same countries, your talk about "weakening the CL" with small champion clubs from the lesser footballing countries would be called out as patronising, arrogant. It's the Champions League. But there are still plenty of articles even in big country medias, like the English media, that are calling out this perpetual expansion of the CL with 3rd spots then 4th spots etc. from the big leagues in the name of "quality" as selling out the original spirit of the competition. Let them break away and start their own closed-door competition if having us is such a bother. (BTW, the last CL expansion was during Lennart Johansson's rule).

Regardless, this is purely offtopic. Michel Platini's words, or for that matter those of any European power figure, are irrelevant in World Cup context. Ever since Stanley Rous' extremely eurocentric (to use an euphemism) mandate ending in 1974, and the FIFA expansion with small countries since, there hasn't been a euro-friendly leadership at FIFA and it looks like it won't be for some time either.
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Chile is interested in hosting the 2030 football World Cup but Argentina will not be bidding to stage the tournament, local media reported on Tuesday.

Chilean football federation president Sergio Jadue, who was re-elected on Monday, said his country had spoken to football's ruling world body FIFA about hosting the competition, either alone or with Uruguay.

Jadue has previously expressed interest in Chile holding the 2030 World Cup, building on its experience of hosting next year's Copa America regional competition and the Under-17 World Cup.

Argentina has also been mooted as a possible host for 2030, but Miguel Angel Silva, the Argentine football association vice-president, appeared to rule that out.

"Argentina is not thinking about the 2030 World Cup. We haven't even considered it yet. If you asked me concretely, Argentina will not bid to organise that World Cup," Chilean local daily La Tercera quoted him as saying.

The 2030 World Cup will mark the centenary of the global football competition which is held every four years. The 1930 World Cup was hosted and won by Uruguay and many people would like to see it return to South America for the 100th anniversary.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 10:18 PM   #26
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Brazil just held it. I cant see them returning soon.
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Why not? Chile has the experience of hosting 1962 FIFA WC and next year will host Copa América and U-17 FIFA WC. I think if the organization become a success and if Chile starts a long-term proyect involving government, districts and ANFP there will be no problem nominating a candidature.

The bigge$t concern would be another one.
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Old November 6th, 2014, 02:35 AM   #28
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Brazil just held it. I cant see them returning soon.
FIFA for a long time did a rotation policy for southa america, we are still stronger contenders then any other continent because Our history.
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Old November 6th, 2014, 06:51 PM   #29
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If Chile/Uruguay 2030 ok!! Or Paraguay/Uruguay 2030. How??
Argentina can postpone to 2038 ok?? How?
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Old November 10th, 2014, 10:02 AM   #30
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A little bit early to be setting this up don't you think? After all there isn't even a forum thread for the 2026 FIFA world cup xD
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Don't see why Chile couldn't host it alone tbh
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Old November 10th, 2014, 08:12 PM   #32
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Uruguay is not a potential bid..........it´s impossible for us to organize a wc....we don´t have enough cities, stadiums, highways, airports, money, for such thing.
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Old November 11th, 2014, 02:26 AM   #33
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Everyone knows 2030 is China's turn to host a World Cup so far it looks like China is the only country that can break the attendance records set by the US in 92.
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Old November 11th, 2014, 02:35 AM   #34
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God it would be shit playing there, to much pollution.
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God it would be shit playing there, to much pollution.
They could probably clean up and reduce their emissions quite a bit by 2030, that is 16 years from now..
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How about the UK with England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland together?

Wembley: Open Match, Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter Final, Final.
Old Trafford: Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter Final, Semi-Final.
Millenium Stadium: Group Stage, Round of 16, Semi-Final.
Emirates: Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter-Final.
Hampden Park: Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter-Final.
Etihad (expanded): Group Stage, Round of 16, Third Place.
Celtic Park (innovated): Group Stage, Round of 16.
Anfield (expanded and innovated): Group Stage, Round of 16.
Stadium:mk , St. James's Park, Stadium of Light, Elland Road (all expanded and innovated) and new stadiums in Northern Ireland: Group Stage

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How about the UK with England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland together?

Wembley: Open Match, Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter Final, Final.
Old Trafford: Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter Final, Semi-Final.
Millenium Stadium: Group Stage, Round of 16, Semi-Final.
Emirates: Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter-Final.
Hampden Park: Group Stage, Round of 16, Quarter-Final.
Etihad (expanded): Group Stage, Round of 16, Third Place.
Celtic Park (innovated): Group Stage, Round of 16.
Anfield (expanded and innovated): Group Stage, Round of 16.
Stadium:mk , St. James's Park, Stadium of Light, Elland Road (all expanded and innovated) and new stadiums in Northern Ireland: Group Stage
With the amount of corruption rampant in FIFA right now, the World Cup will never be awarded on merit, so you guys are wasting your time on pushing England or the UK. China is a corrupt country with a terrible human rights record, so on that basis alone I would say it is a shoe-in.
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England won't bid for any FIFA tournaments with Blatter in charge (http://news.sky.com/story/1305576/en...latter-at-fifa). 2030 will probably be the first World Cup bid process not overseen by him so there might be a chance for England. Don't see any need for making it a UK wide effort though.
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ASEAN aims to host FIFA World Cup in 2030
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JAKARTA, Jan. 19 (Xinhua) -- The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) is exploring entering the competition for its 10 member states to host the FIFA World Cup, the world's biggest football tournament, in 2030, a press statement said here on Wednesday.

Started out as an informal discussion by the ASEAN Foreign Ministers last July in Vietnam's Hanoi, the proposal has recently garnered a higher level of interest, following last week's ASEAN Foreign Ministers' Retreat in Lombok, during which the proposal became one of the highlights.

"I am very pleased with the unprecedented level of enthusiasm across the ASEAN region, particularly amongst our sport communities, about the decision to explore ASEAN's bid to host the 2030 World Cup," said Secretary-General of ASEAN Surin Pitsuwan.

"We are still at an early stage of consultations and strategic discussion," he continued, "but the advice and opinions that have been generated are most valued, and we expect the debate to continue and widen because we really learn a great deal from the public exchange."

Malaysia has been tasked to prepare a proposal for the competition to be presented to the ASEAN Leaders at the 18th ASEAN Summit and Related Summits in May.

"The ASEAN Secretariat will work closely with Malaysia on this," said Pitsuwan.
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The member states of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) have agreed to go ahead with a joint bid to host the 2030 FIFA World Cup, according to a statement by the Indonesian Foreign Ministry on Sunday.

Leaders from the ASEAN nations gathered in Jakarta, Indonesia for the 18th ASEAN Summit held on Saturday and Sunday to discuss a host of regional issues.

According to a press release published on the official ASEAN Summit 2011 website, "ASEAN foreign ministers are eager to encourage public-oriented initiatives, including ASEAN`s bid for World Cup in 2030.”

The idea for ASEAN to host the FIFA World Cup has been thrown around and debated as early as 2009. In January this year, Channel News Asia reported that ASEAN foreign ministers discussed once again the possibility of a joint bid to host the FIFA World Cup during the ASEAN Foreign Minsters’ Retreat in Lombak, Indonesia.

In April, a proposal to bring the 2030 FIFA World Cup to the region was presented to the ASEAN Football Federation (AFF), according to a statement published on ASEAN’s official website.

To date, the highest honour of national soccer triumph has never been held in an ASEAN country. For Asian countries, only South Korea and Japan have hosted the internationally watched championship. They jointly hosted the event in 2002.

The Secretary-General of ASEAN Dr Surin Pitsuwan admitted in January that it will be a “long and arduous campaign” to host the World Cup. However, if ASEAN can work together to pull it off, the regional body will gain greatly in terms of enhanced international prestige, profile and confidence in the association, he said.

The FIFA World Cup is organised by the International Federation of Association Football. All 10 ASEAN states are listed individually as FIFA member associations. The tournament is held every four years, with the next World Cup to be held in Brazil in 2014, followed by Russia in 2018 and Qatar in 2022.
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Singapore is planning to lead an ASEAN bid and host the 2030 World Cup. Given the extraordinary support soccer enjoys among 600 million people in Southeast Asia and the advanced plans to forge a single economic and cultural bloc in the region, such a plan should enjoy widespread support.

Zainudin Nordin, President of the Football Association of Singapore (FAS), said Singapore has set the target for hosting the World Cup as part of a combined bid for the 10 members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

Given the unexpected success enjoyed by Qatar and its winning bid for the 2022 tournament – where a money-first attitude prevailed – an ASEAN attempt would not be entirely out of place.

With Singapore at the helm, ASEAN would be in a financial position to host the tournament. ASEAN certainly boasts a large and strong following of the football code and many of the facilities and logistics required to stage such a complex event already exist or could easily be built with 10 countries behind the bid.

Qatar also broke the unwritten rule that only traditionally strong soccer nations should hold the World Cup. According to Goal.com, Zainudin said he was happy with 2030 as the target for a regional bid and a solid proposal would be forthcoming.

This type of bid would also allow world minnows like Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and Myanmar to play hosts at a tournament – for perhaps just one game each. That’s something they normally could only dream of doing.

Ahead of Qatar’s 2022 cup, Brazil will hold the 2014 World Cup and Russia will take its turn four years later. An ASEAN bid would provide FIFA with an opportunity to hold the World Cup for the first time in Southeast Asia and only the second time in Asia. Japan and South Korea held a joint World Cup in 2002.

The 2026 World Cup is not slated to be held in Asia.

Qatar’s bid has been shrouded in controversy with FIFA delaying a bid to shift the World Cup to winter after admitting that it had not taken into proper consideration the desert heat and the impact this could have on the players, officials and fans.

The ASEAN bid would also provide a focal point for the upcoming ASEAN Summit to be held this week in Brunei where trade agreements and more weighty issues of state and foreign policy issues – like territorial disputes in the South China Sea – are standard fare.

This year, major issues include the formation of a common market by the end of 2015 – a formidable task given the great religious, political and cultural differences among the 10 countries.
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