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Old January 18th, 2020, 06:00 AM   #52501
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since the entire block with the Garmatz courthouse will likely get redeveloped when a new (much needed) court complex is built, why not put a new arena there.

it would be directly across the street from the convention center which will hopefully get a major rebuild in the near future. couldn't have a more central location with good transportation and parking options. would help rejuvenate the IH as well.
Only problem with that...it could be 20 years or more from now.

The now scuttled Hackerman proposal was by far the best. Some version of that on that site would be awesome!
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Old January 18th, 2020, 11:27 AM   #52502
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Thanks for reminding me, I took these photos over there last week or so.













IIRC the building in the back is supposed to be an R House type of market?

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Old January 18th, 2020, 04:32 PM   #52503
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JPMorgan Chase will open its #CherryHill branch this summer.

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Why JPMorgan Chase is 'playing the long game' in Cherry Hill
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Old January 18th, 2020, 04:35 PM   #52504
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The U.S. Lacrosse Convention, or LaxCon, will return to #Baltimore after two years in Philadelphia.

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Old January 18th, 2020, 07:06 PM   #52505
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Only problem with that...it could be 20 years or more from now.

The now scuttled Hackerman proposal was by far the best. Some version of that on that site would be awesome!
the only flaw in the Hackerman design is that by putting the arena directly on the current convention center site you limit the square footage for the exhibition floor space and future growth

better to put the arena directly adjacent to the current site
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It was going to displace only the older part of the Convention Center. After completion, there was to be a couple hundred thousand square feet of additional space, with the arena also available if needed.
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Old Yesterday, 06:44 PM   #52507
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DC Metro is usually packed with fans when thereís a Caps or Wizards game. Not to mention, transit isnít just for those that canít afford to drive.... Most people that take transit to games take their car to work... thereís so many more benefits to transit than just cost.... Think of how other cities utilize their arena and transit systems to see what could be. Not how Baltimore does it currently....
Sure, but I was asking about Baltimore's arena, not DC's.

No need to sell me on transit. I've been using here and elsewhere since the 60s. Now, as then, if you know where you're going and aren't in a huge hurry, it's fine.

Never in a million years would I have used it to take the kids to Monster Trucks or a Blast game, though, and I know I'm not the only one. Compared to Oriole Park or The Bank after games, the Light Rail stop at the arena after events is under-used.
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The U.S. Lacrosse Convention, or LaxCon, will return to #Baltimore after two years in Philadelphia.

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Right. LaxCon toggles back and forth between Philly and Baltimore on a pre-set schedule: two years there, two here. Sometimes three.

And there's a smaller LaxCon out in Vegas for western laxers.
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Great ideas, but I donít think theyíll become reality until a new arena is built.

Can someone explain why the arena couldnít be redeveloped at its current site? Could easily make space by taking it to the edge of Hopkins and taking down the garage Iíd think. I think an arena would be more successful on Piers 5 and 6 but itíd be better for the city as a whole (and downtown specifically) if it stayed at its current location.
It could but then you're looking at 2-3 years of no arena for the city. No visitors, no hotel rooms, no restaurant activity. That's a long time to go without an arena.
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Sure, but I was asking about Baltimore's arena, not DC's.

No need to sell me on transit. I've been using here and elsewhere since the 60s. Now, as then, if you know where you're going and aren't in a huge hurry, it's fine.

Never in a million years would I have used it to take the kids to Monster Trucks or a Blast game, though, and I know I'm not the only one. Compared to Oriole Park or The Bank after games, the Light Rail stop at the arena after events is under-used.
Yep. For most people with our transit system, it's much easier and almost just as cheap, depending on if you are by yourself or with your family, to drive down and park as opposed to taking transit. For the large majority, because our transit system isn't built out, you have to drive and park just to get to the subway or light rail. I certainly do. The only time the light rail really made sense for me was when I was going down for the Baltimore Marathon and parking was limited because of all the streets that were blocked off, or if there is some major event downtown and parking is limited.
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It could but then you're looking at 2-3 years of no arena for the city. No visitors, no hotel rooms, no restaurant activity. That's a long time to go without an arena.
If they where to redevelope the current arena site it will be in conjunction with a new arena built in another area of the city. Once the new Arena was near finished, only then would they demo the old one and build whatever would be replacing it.

Unlike a convention center which can function while under expansion, and arena can't. No city would willingly go arena-less for 2-3 years.
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I did some math.



Without going into complex detail, I roughly calculated the height of 300 E. Pratt Street in this render by using the known height of 400 E. Pratt Street and a horizon point.

To that.. 400 East Pratt Street is 137' tall to roofline (google earth/geo-maps are great tools for this) but becuase forced perspective that same vertical edge on 300 E. Pratte street looks 20% smaller (109') so we have to account for the difference (~20%)

Forced perspective height: 430' (109 + 321 = 430)
Actual height: 516' (430 x .20 = 86 + 430 = 516')

In a nutshell, this particular render of 300 E. Pratt Street is roughly 510-520' tall.

Feel free to do your own calculations
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Old Today, 03:55 PM   #52513
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If they where to redevelope the current arena site it will be in conjunction with a new arena built in another area of the city. Once the new Arena was near finished, only then would they demo the old one and build whatever would be replacing it.

Unlike a convention center which can function while under expansion, and arena can't. No city would willingly go arena-less for 2-3 years.
Exactly, wasn't the question "Can someone explain why the arena couldn’t be redeveloped at its current site?"?
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