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Old August 7th, 2016, 10:33 AM   #101
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I think they will consider a combination of ground and elevated rail. Ground railway can be built from Carcar City to Talisay City and from Mandaue City to Danao City while the elevated railway can be built through the HUC's of Talisay City, Cebu City, Mandaue City and Lapu-Lapu City. Who knows they will also propose a railway connection to the ports. About the addition of Mactan route, seems like they are considering the JICA plans.


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THE proposed light rail transit (LRT) project in Cebu will cost the National Government $30 million per kilometer, according to Presidential Assistant for the Visayas Michael Dino.

That’s the estimated cost of an elevated line of the train. However, it may be cheaper if the line is on the ground, he said.
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Dino said they will propose an additional route to the Mactan airport.
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Dino said his office will make sure the project will be implemented before Duterte’s term ends.

Although they’re targeting the 70-kilometer length of the LRT, Dino said this will still depend on the viability of the route, which has yet to be determined.

The Singaporean experts are expected to complete the feasibility study by October.
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Old August 7th, 2016, 11:36 AM   #102
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I think they will consider a combination of ground and elevated rail. Ground railway can be built from Carcar City to Talisay City and from Mandaue City to Danao City while the elevated railway can be built through the HUC's of Talisay City, Cebu City, Mandaue City and Lapu-Lapu City. Who knows they will also propose a railway connection to the ports. About the addition of Mactan route, seems like they are considering the JICA plans.


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Old August 7th, 2016, 11:58 AM   #103
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I think they will consider a combination of ground and elevated rail. Ground railway can be built from Carcar City to Talisay City and from Mandaue City to Danao City while the elevated railway can be built through the HUC's of Talisay City, Cebu City, Mandaue City and Lapu-Lapu City. Who knows they will also propose a railway connection to the ports. About the addition of Mactan route, seems like they are considering the JICA plans.

$30 million per kilometer is actually *cheap*. The cost per km doesn't mean it costs $30 million to physically lay the track. It also includes ROW property acquisition, the procurement of rail vehicles, building the infrastructure to support the trains, station construction and so on. Add all the costs and divide it by the length of the line....there you have it.

If ground level is to be cheaper, it will only be so if the stations are also more simpler. But if the property acquisition is really expensive, it may not be that cheaper.
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if this will be the main railway crossing through the main cebu metro, it may be better for it to be on the ground, so freight trains can move goods from/to the port of cebu.
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Old August 7th, 2016, 02:12 PM   #105
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$30 million per kilometer is actually *cheap*. The cost per km doesn't mean it costs $30 million to physically lay the track. It also includes ROW property acquisition, the procurement of rail vehicles, building the infrastructure to support the trains, station construction and so on. Add all the costs and divide it by the length of the line....there you have it.

If ground level is to be cheaper, it will only be so if the stations are also more simpler. But if the property acquisition is really expensive, it may not be that cheaper.
First, there's no such thing as "cheap" when you talk about rail systems. If you insist on things "cheap", then a rail transport system goes out of the window. Second, if the proponent makes it a point to specify something like $xxxM or PxxxM cost per km, designers can do it for them at their specs. Third, and most importantly, elevated systems all over the world are done placing the support columns on curbs of existing roadways or planting columns (pile-driven) at road centerlines--> to do away with costs for acquiring ROW. That's the true meaning of "engineering", FYI.
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Old August 8th, 2016, 11:03 PM   #106
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First, there's no such thing as "cheap" when you talk about rail systems. If you insist on things "cheap", then a rail transport system goes out of the window. Second, if the proponent makes it a point to specify something like $xxxM or PxxxM cost per km, designers can do it for them at their specs. Third, and most importantly, elevated systems all over the world are done placing the support columns on curbs of existing roadways or planting columns (pile-driven) at road centerlines--> to do away with costs for acquiring ROW. That's the true meaning of "engineering", FYI.
i agree with Parchie. railway system is really expensive. we need also to have a good train control/signalling system as well as a safe infrastructure facilities (platform screen door,trip system etc), fire supression system which i did not see here in the philippines.if magtukod man ugaling tag railway-i hope di man lang sad minantenil especially ang mga safety features na dapat ma install aron safety sad ang mga pasahero ug ang mga staff.wish that this Cebu LRT puslan man at least equally equipped man lang parehas to some of the railway system sa ubang Asian countries.
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Old August 19th, 2016, 07:41 PM   #107
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Cebu City train system to be built through emergency powers

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Cebu City (CNN Philippines) – A presidential adviser said Friday that the work for a train system in the Metro Cebu area can start this year, if Congress grants emergency powers to President Rodrigo Duterte.

According to Secretary Michael Dino, Presidential Assistant for the Visayas, a Singaporean firm could conduct the feasibility and financial study of the train system in November.
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Old August 20th, 2016, 06:22 AM   #108
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Old August 20th, 2016, 09:12 AM   #109
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Fast tracking Cebu's insfractures such as the BRT/LRT can be a driving force in sustaining our growth and development. Global cities have those as basic necessities but why do we have to contend with keeping the jeepneys rule our streets?
Backward pa gyud ta kaayo ug thinking.
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Old August 20th, 2016, 09:43 AM   #110
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Fast tracking Cebu's insfractures such as the BRT/LRT can be a driving force in sustaining our growth and development. Global cities have those as basic necessities but why do we have to contend with keeping the jeepneys rule our streets?
Backward pa gyud ta kaayo ug thinking.
In their time, those inefficient modes will die a natural death. It should be remembered that we already have that railway system before but it lost to the newer mode then, the autobus/automobiles! Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself!
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Old August 24th, 2016, 04:37 PM   #111
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Singapore experts conduct Cebu LRT study

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Cebu City – A team of Singaporean transportation experts commissioned by the Philippine government to conduct feasibility study on the proposed light rail transit (LRT) system in the Metro Cebu has started its study and is expected to finish by mid-October to November of this year.

Presidential assistant for the Visayas Michael Lloyd Dino explained to media that he purposely pushed for foreign private experts to conduct the study to keep politicians from lobbying for the project.
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^ That's the right way of thinking!
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Old August 29th, 2016, 06:14 PM   #113
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Rail projects in the pipeline increasing

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THE GOVERNMENT has received a proposal from a South Korean firm to build a railway in Metro Cebu, the country’s Socioeconomic Planning chief said, signaling growing interest from abroad as authorities push for infrastructure projects outside Metro Manila.

A South Korean firm has suggested a Light Railway Transit (LRT) line that would connect the busy Visayan metropolis, foster its development and, consequently, provide an alternative hub for workers and businesses, National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) Director-General Ernesto M. Pernia told reporters last week.

“The Cebu LRT is an unsolicited proposal... raised to the DoTr (Department of Transportation) and also to the Cebu authorities. Putting more infrastructure in Metro Cebu would draw investors, workers and businessmen away from Metro Manila to Cebu, because Cebu is also a very attractive metropolitan area,” Mr. Pernia said.

The proposed Cebu railway is still in the early stages of study, the Cabinet official said, and will be subjected to a Swiss challenge if approved for rollout whereby other parties can submit competing offers, which the original proponent has the right to match.

Mr. Pernia said it should be possible to complete the planned Cebu LRT before President Rodrigo R. Duterte steps down at end-June 2022, if the contract will be awarded “early next year.”

The proposed Cebu LRT will have to be evaluated by the NEDA Technical Board, elevated to the Investment Coordination Committee and then to the NEDA Board for final approval before the project can be subjected to a Swiss challenge, Mr. Pernia said.

This plan will complement a bus rapid transit system for Cebu that is funded by the World Bank.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 08:39 PM   #114
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Buti hindi kumukontra ang MCIAA manager sa LRT plan na yan!

Sabihin nya bagsak daw sa feasibility study yan noon pa.. Tapos sabay display ng mga ano anong data at mga graphs galing sa mga sources nya na iwan din! Well, as a transport economist kuno marami namang naniwala sa kanya..kaya pati si Pnoy ginawa syang MCIAA manager kaagad.

Delikado pag siya at si YUseco magsama. Naku lagot ang LRT ninyo! kasi mas mabilis daw maglagay ng BRT at mas mura pa daw kaysa mga railways railways na yan!
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The agency also detailed a 25-km Cebu rail project costing P98 billion, including right of way, a 25-km Central Philippine Rail, also with a total project cost of P86 billion, and a 20-km Mindanao Rail project, which would cost P79 billion.
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 06:52 PM   #116
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unsay latest aning atong cebu lrt. morag nahilom paman. wlay mga kahigalaan diha sa administrasyon nga makahatag ug update.
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unsay latest aning atong cebu lrt. morag nahilom paman. wlay mga kahigalaan diha sa administrasyon nga makahatag ug update.
afaik ongoing na ila feasibility study ani...
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China railway firm technical team to visit PH

THE technical team of the CRRC Nanjing Puzhen Co., Ltd, a China-based first-class large-scale railway equipment manufacturing company, is set to visit the Philippines in December this year for a month-long technical presentation marathon in a bid to present a proposed Monorail Train project in the cities of Cebu and Davao.
The China-based firm partners with Maglev Vision Transportation Mfg. Corp., after the latter sealed a four-year renewable deal last August to bring a Canadian technology Bombardier Innovia 300 Monorail Train in Davao City.
“It’s a work in progress. When the technical team of the CRRC Nanjing Puzhen will come in the country, it will present the technical details of the proposed monorail project,” Jose Guardo Jr., a Davao-based inventor who is connected with Maglev said in an interview with SunStar Davao Wednesday afternoon, November 1.
The Monorail System is operational in Sao Paulo, Brazil and Riyadh in Saudi Arabia. An earlier version, the Innovia 200 is operating in Las Vegas strip of the United States.
The technical team, he said, will first present its product to President Rodrigo Duterte, Department of Transportation Secretary Arthur Tugade, Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte-Carpio for Davao City Loop, Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña and Governor Hilario Davide III and Presidential Assistant for Visayas Secretary Michael Dino for Metro Cebu Monorail Line project.

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CEBU NEEDS TRAIN TRANSPORT for its future expansion and to mitigate traffic congestion in the years to come... it is long overdue... pag pinatagal pa magiging parang Metro Manila ang bigat ng trapiko balang araw
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CEBU NEEDS TRAIN TRANSPORT for its future expansion and to mitigate traffic congestion in the years to come... it is long overdue... pag pinatagal pa magiging parang Metro Manila ang bigat ng trapiko balang araw
You should be here to see that it's already happening!
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