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Old August 11th, 2015, 07:13 AM   #21
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Mods, please do not lock or delete this thread. This is a better way to keep track of the specific LRT2 project. Plus this will ensure relevant info on the LRT2 remain easily accessible and not be buried from the bajillion posts from the main thread.

That said, I suggest that posts here should be relevant to the LRT2 extensions only, including articles, photos, political commentaries relating only to LRT2, and so on. All other topics regarding the other MRT or LRT lines, as well as general political commentaries on Metro Manila rail rapid transit, should be on the main Metro Manila Mass Rapid Transit System thread.
Agree agree! It's easier to check the updates of ongoing projects in separate threads than in a merged thread with hodgepodge of issues of completed projects.

This thread shouldn't be locked and all proposed and U/C mass transit projects in Metro Manila should have their own threads. Once each project is complete, the thread can then be locked and discussions can continue in MM Mass Rapid Transit thread.
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sorry for my ignorance but what is AASHTO?
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Old August 11th, 2015, 03:22 PM   #23
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Update: Inusog nila yung barrier kaya ngayon hanggang sa ilalim na siya ng overpass ng Robinsons Metro East. You guessed it, the traffic is horrible. 20 minutes from SM Marikina to Ligaya. Literal na walking pace.
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Yes, it's AASHTO, not box girder type. The plan was posted here several pages back.



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Pati rin sa West AASHTO. Baka dmci mananalo


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sorry for my ignorance but what is AASHTO?
Hayy grabe talaga pagtitipid ginawang I-Beam but its better than nothing nga naman at least may MRT-2 na soon sa Antipolo and hopefully Port Area would follow real soon
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Old August 11th, 2015, 05:26 PM   #25
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Sa station design ako mas concerned. Dun tayo laging failure. Kahit yung bagong atations ng NEP, wala sa kalingkingan ng Japan made LRT 2.
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masinag is Antipolo City
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Old August 11th, 2015, 06:23 PM   #27
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Sa station design ako mas concerned. Dun tayo laging failure. Kahit yung bagong atations ng NEP, wala sa kalingkingan ng Japan made LRT 2.
Sa website ng dotc meron na ata design pdf yun ha. Download yun. Sangkaterbang blueprint
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http://www.mexpresa.com/productos/vigas_p-e.php

AASHTO Type Girders



While the original LRT/MRT-2 used the BOX type girders:
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Old August 12th, 2015, 05:42 AM   #29
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This remains to be seen. The reason why LRT2 is the most challenging to build of all the LRT/MRT lines is the sheer congestion of the corridor. You need the box girder type to squeeze in the narrower Aurora Blvd and between buildings and viaducts on parts of old Manila. Because they were using a gantry crane, its also easy to do box girders for most of the line, but AASHTO is still present in a few parts.

AASHTO would make a little more sense along Marcos Highway because its wider with no sharp curves, hence easier and cheaper to build. Even sunlight blocking won't be an issue because the roadway is so wide and buildings not so tall. This is, after all, an extension at this point so this method will save time and won't require procurement and assembly of a gantry crane (which is actually time consuming...took three months just to assemble Vancouver's Evergreen Line's crane!)

For the Western extension, we are still not sure DMCI will be the contractor. The public relations nitemare with Torre de Manila isn't helping them, so there could be some politics there within the city of Manila. But even if DMCI wins, I think they maybe forced to use box girders with a gantry crane since the roadway is narrower and there could be a sharp turn heading towards North Harbour.
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walang consistency
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Old August 12th, 2015, 07:24 AM   #31
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Sorry for the ignorance but how do they build it in other countries so there is consistency? In all probability in developed counties its the government that builds it to ensure consistency. At least here, can we have just one design agency even if it gets bidded out to different contractors.
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Sorry for the ignorance but how do they build it in other countries so there is consistency? In all probability in developed counties its the government that builds it to ensure consistency. At least here, can we have just one design agency even if it gets bidded out to different contractors.
I can only speak for Canada but there is actually no consistency. For example in Vancouver's Skytrain, the guideway of the older Expo Line looks different from the newer Millennium Line. This could be due to both different contractors and technological improvements. For the even newer Evergreen Line which is underconstruction, the guideways are consistent with the Millennium Line because the contractor and technology using to build are the same. But if it was a different contractor using a different method, it would have not been consistent. Its the same deal with Calgary's C-Train and Toronto subways and LRT lines.

Even if DMCI were to use box girders and a gantry crane for the West Extension, it may not look the same as the existing. What is important is they are compatible, like how DMCI manage to seamlessly connect the LRT1 NEP with FF Cruz's MRT3 guideways near Trinoma.
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Phase 2 of the LRT-2 line will be extended from Masinag all the way to Antipolo City proper. I'll post the plan later.
Phase 2 will be extended from Masinag to Antipolo proper via Sumulong Hiway (most likely the future project will terminate near Antipolo church via an underground station). West extension will terminate at the Manila's future Financial district (North/South Harbour CBD) and will interchange with either a tram or BRT plying the Roxas Boulevard stretch to the Entertainment City.



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Old August 12th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #34
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Manila Financial Centre? Antagal pa bago yan ma convert from its current structure and looks to something like that. Ewan ko lang pero sana kung maglalagay ng financial centre, wag na sa sobrang congested na area.

Yay for the extension! Parang under-utilized talaga yung infrastructure ng LRT-2, kung sana ganyan kaganda / kaayos yung sa sa LRT 1 at MRT, medyo kayang i-handle yung volume ng tao.
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Manila Financial Centre? Antagal pa bago yan ma convert from its current structure and looks to something like that. Ewan ko lang pero sana kung maglalagay ng financial centre, wag na sa sobrang congested na area.

Yay for the extension! Parang under-utilized talaga yung infrastructure ng LRT-2, kung sana ganyan kaganda / kaayos yung sa sa LRT 1 at MRT, medyo kayang i-handle yung volume ng tao.
It is already under PPP bundled together with Manila's tourism sites (i.e. Manila Post Office, MET, etc). Roll out will happen by the next admin.
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Lim's plan for the Manila Financial Centre is to have it side by side with Baseco. Brilliant!
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Old August 13th, 2015, 03:25 AM   #37
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Hopefully that L2 Manila Pier westward extension will be fully operational by 2022.
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Old August 13th, 2015, 06:17 AM   #38
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Lim's plan for the Manila Financial Centre is to have it side by side with Baseco. Brilliant!
Manila LGU has no jurisdiction over PPA. Similar to Intramuros, it functions on its own. Hence, former Mayor Lim is just reinstating what PPA's future plan is. To educate you, any port in the world follows a cycle. Once it reaches the maturity stage, the port becomes a development zone. You can do research on the history of Yokohama port in Japan.
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Mods, please do not lock or delete this thread. This is a better way to keep track of the specific LRT2 project. Plus this will ensure relevant info on the LRT2 remain easily accessible and not be buried from the bajillion posts from the main thread.

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Agree agree! It's easier to check the updates of ongoing projects in separate threads than in a merged thread with hodgepodge of issues of completed projects.

This thread shouldn't be locked and all proposed and U/C mass transit projects in Metro Manila should have their own threads.

Once each project is complete, the thread can then be locked and discussions can continue in MM Mass Rapid Transit thread.

Agree.

LRT2 Extension Thread = Construction Progress.
MRT Main Thread = Plans / Operations and Maintenance.


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Old August 14th, 2015, 05:51 AM   #40
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IMHO, I don't think the LRT-2 will be actually extended to Antipolo proper. I don't think there's critical volume for the project to be feasible plus consider the topography of the area. Maybe by Antipolo, what they really mean is Masinag.
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