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Old July 25th, 2018, 01:11 PM   #121
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One of my few (crazy) ideas. The first one should be the most feasible except for the challenge of building a station on top of the underpass.

(I forgot to move the PUV/Bus station but just around that area maybe is fine, also it's not a terminal nor serving provincial buses)

All will have same interchange link but not just a footbridge but will also serve as commercial blocks on street-level and shops inside the link which will be paid area (inside the faregate).

The other two are the crazier ones that require additional ROW acquisition for the line, both will involve at using Isetann ROW and few others for the guideway before going back to Quezon Blvd.


This one involves building a station just beside Line-2 Recto station. The guideway should run underneath of the Line-2 guideway if vertical clearance is possible, assuming trains are not using an overhead power supply and will use 3rd-rail like MRT-7. Basically, the guideway would be the similar height as Line-1. The station concourse would be on 2nd floor instead and might physically integrate to Line-2 station building.

This is probably will not happen.
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Old July 25th, 2018, 03:53 PM   #122
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^ I made one as well...would want this area to be less claustrophobic and grey....
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Old July 25th, 2018, 04:07 PM   #123
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^ I made one as well...would want this area to be less claustrophobic and grey....
Was it posted in this thread too? Yeah, sorry I was in the rush making those graphics. I was actually intending to make it more detailed but not enough time atm.
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Old July 26th, 2018, 04:55 PM   #124
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Yang Bilibid Prison ang dapat maging Central Station at maging terminus ng Manila-Clark at Manila-Calamba railways. Strategic yung location di gaya sa Tutuban. Pag galing ka ng MOA, Pasay, Makati CBD, sa LRT1 ka lang sasakay.

Kaso nga lang may ROW na sa Tutuban
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Old July 26th, 2018, 10:44 PM   #125
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Yang Bilibid Prison ang dapat maging Central Station at maging terminus ng Manila-Clark at Manila-Calamba railways. Strategic yung location di gaya sa Tutuban. Pag galing ka ng MOA, Pasay, Makati CBD, sa LRT1 ka lang sasakay.

Kaso nga lang may ROW na sa Tutuban
Bilibid was in the old JICA plans, as the main interchange for the urban rail lines. Not sure how far it is from Tutuban and if they can connect with Bilibid (like walkway or moving sidewalk. I only wish they stuck to the old plans.
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Old July 27th, 2018, 04:13 AM   #126
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There are supposed to be an Interchange facilities in Edsa-Taft, Cubao, Recto and Monumento based on the old MMUTIS proposed projects for Metro Manila dated 1999-2004.

The interchange of PNR is supposedly located in Monumento to connect with MRT 3 north extension, LRT line 1 monumento station and PNR Northrail Caloocan station. With all the MRT woes, the plan was changed forever. Line 1 is the one extended to north instead the MRT 3 so the common station is now in North EDSA.

DOTr must follow the original plan now at least for the Recto integrated station as the original plan for the Monumento, Cubao and EDSA-Taft miserably failed for having physically connected common stations.

The fate of this Integrated Recto terminal is doomed now that Megawide has their line terminates in Lerma.
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Old July 28th, 2018, 12:22 PM   #127
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Never really understand why everytime we make a new line, we never do interchanges for no good reason. Everything has been treated to be a completely isolated line and only later to be connected with half-baked solutions like bridges. We never get the most out of our train system if we more often like this and just accept the inefficiency.

Seriously though, have they not realized that the lack of interchange is also causing much of the suffering for the commuters? Not sure why we often have to end up with this half-baked solutions. It's not like the solutions don't exist was never done by others.

Terminating only at Lerma just missed another opportunity to fix the disconnected system. I really feel sad about this.
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Old July 28th, 2018, 01:16 PM   #128
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bilib nako sa sobrang dame ng study at reports na ginawa para sa metro manila kahit walang nangyare sa kanila
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Old July 29th, 2018, 05:12 PM   #129
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Are those red circles really supposed to be interchanges?

PNR's right of way in Caloocan is so far away from Monumento. I don't think an interchange would be possible unless they ditch the ROW and divert the line to Monumento moving up towards McArthur highway.

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Old July 30th, 2018, 03:28 PM   #130
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Spur line ng LRT1?
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Old July 30th, 2018, 03:32 PM   #131
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Never really understand why everytime we make a new line, we never do interchanges for no good reason. Everything has been treated to be a completely isolated line and only later to be connected with half-baked solutions like bridges. We never get the most out of our train system if we more often like this and just accept the inefficiency.

Seriously though, have they not realized that the lack of interchange is also causing much of the suffering for the commuters? Not sure why we often have to end up with this half-baked solutions. It's not like the solutions don't exist was never done by others.

Terminating only at Lerma just missed another opportunity to fix the disconnected system. I really feel sad about this.
Vested interest lagi yan saka dagdagan mo pa ng pagiging incompetent. Laging una ang cost sa mga financier at contractors imbes na makapagbigay ng magandang serbisyo.
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Old September 7th, 2018, 05:47 PM   #132
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Any update on this line?
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Old September 20th, 2018, 04:28 AM   #133
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Old September 20th, 2018, 03:29 PM   #134
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You say Sec Tugade is better than Abaya? After 2 years watching his move, the valedictorian knows how to cater to special interests. He wasn't listening to his boss?
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Old September 20th, 2018, 07:45 PM   #135
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Can we have both lrt and brt for this route?
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Old September 20th, 2018, 08:38 PM   #136
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I understand that this is still being studied by DOTr.
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Old September 21st, 2018, 04:11 PM   #137
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Can we have both lrt and brt for this route?
Yes, you can have both a BRT line on this route, same as in EDSA but NOT the BRT concept the DOTr is considering, taking up the median. They can have the LRT in the middle and one lane on the curb each side as a bus rapid transit lane. LRT and bus rapid system can complement each other but NOT compete with each other which this DOTr plan will end up.
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Old September 21st, 2018, 04:37 PM   #138
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You say Sec Tugade is better than Abaya? After 2 years watching his move, the valedictorian knows how to cater to special interests. He wasn't listening to his boss?
Yes, Sec Tugade is better than Joseph Emilio Aguinaldo Abaya, who is simply the definition of ineptitude and incompetence. If you think Tugade is that bad, Abaya is light years far more worse! For one, not a single rail was laid under Abaya's watch. The only thing he did was LRT2 East Extension viaducts with NOTHING on them! At least Sec Tugade still has some ongoing projects, not to mention ending other stupid transport stuff like Tanim Bala at the airports, lack of driver's license cards and plates. Seriously, Joseph Emilio Aguinaldo Abaya is just so bad how can anybody say he is better than Tugade or any other Transport Sec (except Mar Roxas, which is another idiot).
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Can we have both lrt and brt for this route?
Its either one or the other. Otherwise they will be competing in the same space. And given the higher capital cost of rail, short sighted politicians will opt to not do anything if BRT is built first! If East West Rail was a continuation of MRT7 or LRT2, there could be some advantage. But since its a stand along line, same with the BRT, then they are competing for the same ridership.
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Its either one or the other. Otherwise they will be competing in the same space. And given the higher capital cost of rail, short sighted politicians will opt to not do anything if BRT is built first! If East West Rail was a continuation of MRT7 or LRT2, there could be some advantage. But since its a stand along line, same with the BRT, then they are competing for the same ridership.
Shall we kill this thread now? If it is one or the other, it will be game over for the LRT line. And if they take the median for the BRT, game over for the rail line. Again, it doesn't have to be but there are other ways to do a brt not just the gold standard, Curitiba style. The objective of doing all these plans to people's mobility.

The LRT based on its alighment will interchange with MRT 7 if I'm not mistaken underground at QC Circle.
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