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Old June 25th, 2019, 03:48 PM   #1721
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Hoarding complete around site:



They’ll be attacking it from the back. Only small changes, but most windows knocked out, walls knocked down on both sides (only pillars remain)...workers taking a break. So ready to go.



Here’s how it looks on Google Street View:

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What's intricate and fascinating about simple vertical fins?

Am I missing something?


The varied spacing and depth to the facade vertical fin designs on both the podium and tower section should give the building a different look from different angles.

A lot of buildings around the world make use of fins to emphasise verticality (particularly in lower towers like this one - which is only 88m after all) however most of them do not incorporate variations in depth and spacing.

While I welcome this I do agree with some commentary that the western facade up to the restaurant terrace is maybe a bit risky. (the depth of each fin here is 750mm - roughly twice that on the opposite side of the tower) Hopefully it will work out and the quality of materials has to be excellent.

I think the eastern and northern facade will look virtually identical to City Quay. Plenty of glazing visible from most angles and a very clean form.

The western and southern side fins are visibly deeper of course (due to sun) - there is some variation on the southern side. (I also like the look of the "wrap" every 3 floors on the facade which adds more angles).

It looks to me like a lot of thought and careful consideration has been given to the facade here, more than might be appreciated on first look.

What I want to see and is crucial to the success of this on the skyline is the same standard finish applied as on City Quay. If they achieve that this will look really good.

I don't agree with those saying they should get rid of the fins as without them the design would be very flat and much more uninteresting in my opinion. Also given the building is only 88 meters it could do with the vertical element.

Needless to say given the location this project needs to be implemented really well and it has to project itself really well. The last thing we need is another excuse for the naysayers on high rise.
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Old June 25th, 2019, 04:17 PM   #1723
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Graffiti in Dublin is so crap. Nothing artistic, just dumb tags.
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Old June 25th, 2019, 04:54 PM   #1724
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Is there any planning already granted for this site?
CORRECTION - I found it:3794/18.

Can we have planning ref.number added to first post on this thread (https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1805325)

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Old June 25th, 2019, 05:49 PM   #1725
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Is there any planning already granted for this site?


You been living under a rock?
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Old June 25th, 2019, 07:56 PM   #1726
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Squirrel coming down this week according to this tweet

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Old June 25th, 2019, 09:15 PM   #1727
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Graffiti in Dublin is so crap. Nothing artistic, just dumb tags.
Particularly good graffiti on that building, on the Tara street side. Not visible in the pics above.
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This building next to it (Ashford House I think) will be demolished for the Metro station, so they better not skimp on the design or finish for the back as it will be facing onto a public space.
No that's not right, the building they need for Metrolink is College Gate which is this one.
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Old June 25th, 2019, 10:08 PM   #1729
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No that's not right, the building they need for Metrolink is College Gate which is this one.
Both have to go. Nobody cares about Ashford House because its "just" office space so you won't have seen it all over the media like College Gate but its blatantly clear in the Metrolink docs.
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Looks like a fair bit of progress for one day



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Old June 26th, 2019, 02:20 AM   #1731
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Old June 26th, 2019, 10:22 AM   #1732
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Graffiti in Dublin is so crap. Nothing artistic, just dumb tags.
This is simply not true, Dublin has and has had many amazing pieces. Unfortunately DCC are trigger-happy to paint over all of them as they are "unauthorised". There is some push back against this policy. Check out the grey area project.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-36940341.html
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Old June 26th, 2019, 10:42 AM   #1733
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Particularly good graffiti on that building, on the Tara street side. Not visible in the pics above.
its crap mate

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This is simply not true, Dublin has and has had many amazing pieces. Unfortunately DCC are trigger-happy to paint over all of them as they are "unauthorised". There is some push back against this policy. Check out the grey area project.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-36940341.html
Like the Mrs Doyle but the president?? ooh how subversive.. big pictures of presidents are for countries like Syria and Venezuela
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Old June 26th, 2019, 11:34 AM   #1734
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Looks like a fair bit of progress for one day



Pic Darragh Doyle, Twitter

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What an ugly building. It makes Hawkins house look like the Burj Khalifa
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Old June 26th, 2019, 11:57 AM   #1735
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The varied spacing and depth to the facade vertical fin designs on both the podium and tower section should give the building a different look from different angles.

A lot of buildings around the world make use of fins to emphasise verticality (particularly in lower towers like this one - which is only 88m after all) however most of them do not incorporate variations in depth and spacing.

While I welcome this I do agree with some commentary that the western facade up to the restaurant terrace is maybe a bit risky. (the depth of each fin here is 750mm - roughly twice that on the opposite side of the tower) Hopefully it will work out and the quality of materials has to be excellent.

I think the eastern and northern facade will look virtually identical to City Quay. Plenty of glazing visible from most angles and a very clean form.

The western and southern side fins are visibly deeper of course (due to sun) - there is some variation on the southern side. (I also like the look of the "wrap" every 3 floors on the facade which adds more angles).

It looks to me like a lot of thought and careful consideration has been given to the facade here, more than might be appreciated on first look.

What I want to see and is crucial to the success of this on the skyline is the same standard finish applied as on City Quay. If they achieve that this will look really good.

I don't agree with those saying they should get rid of the fins as without them the design would be very flat and much more uninteresting in my opinion. Also given the building is only 88 meters it could do with the vertical element.

Needless to say given the location this project needs to be implemented really well and it has to project itself really well. The last thing we need is another excuse for the naysayers on high rise.

Oh...you're being very serious.

Couple of points to note. The fins may assist with solar gain but from some angles the fins are all you will see, it'll basically be a wall of metal/stone (depending on fin material). That's not a good thing, from some angles it'll look monolithic and frankly just awful.

What good is glazing if you barely see it

Cases in point;


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That College Green view is rotten. Poor quality renders and all that, but still.
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Old June 26th, 2019, 02:01 PM   #1738
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Like the Mrs Doyle but the president?? ooh how subversive.. big pictures of presidents are for countries like Syria and Venezuela
The article was the point there, re the policy DCC has toward graffiti. The thing that you were complaining about. You encounter less high-quality graffiti because DCC is nuking it all.

However, much still survives. Clearly you've never taken a walk around smithfield, portobello, the liberties.
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Oh gods, liberty hall is actually the looker in that pic. Dire straits indeed.
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Looks like a fair bit of progress for one day



Pic Darragh Doyle, Twitter

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Cisto's graffiti is a very visible cyst on the streetscape. It's good to see that going. Even the Tara St "Tower"'s presence alone should be enough to actually lift the general vicinity out of the doldrums of mediocrity. The extra footfall and attention that will be paid to the area should help keep it looking more welcoming, irrespective of the relatively dull design of the "Tower" itself.
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