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Old June 12th, 2013, 03:42 PM   #81
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While I don't really care for the look of the rest of Earls Court...


It is a crime that they are knocking down the gorgeous front Art Deco bit.... There are so few examples of Art Deco in London, they should be listed.... At least move the front bit elsewhere...
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Interesting transport article about the Earl's Court Redevelopment from London Reconnections:

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...t-development/
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Old June 14th, 2013, 04:04 PM   #83
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It's an interesting discussion there.

There's quite a few people complaining about the fact the West London Line is not going to be made into a four track route through Earls Court, to recess freight trains, but I agree with the view that says such a move would not in fact help the flow of traffic along the WLL.
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While I don't really care for the look of the rest of Earls Court...


It is a crime that they are knocking down the gorgeous front Art Deco bit.... There are so few examples of Art Deco in London, they should be listed.... At least move the front bit elsewhere...
i like earls court. some of it is lovely. and the bits that aren't - well fine, at least they provide vaguely affordable accommodation somewhere that isn't totally hideous.

the front should probably be moved somewhere else and saved. but in general, i'm in favour of the whole development, minus the knocking down of the council flats at gibbs green.

this, and the coach park that cuts into kensington gardens at the north, are the two things in that strip of west central london that need sorted out asap.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 10:00 AM   #85
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The scheme has been rubber stamped by the Mayor:

Earls Court demolition plan approved by Mayor of London
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4 July 2013
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Plans for a 77-acre redevelopment in Earls Court and West Kensington have been approved by the Mayor of London.

The scheme involves demolishing two estates and the Earls Court Exhibition Centre.

Developers want to create four "villages" and a "high street" and say the plans will create 7,500 homes and thousands of permanent jobs.

But campaigners from Save Earl's Court West Kensington & Gibbs Green estates have opposed them.
'Massive boost'

They argued the loss of Earls Court would damage trade and that the centre should be listed.

London mayor Boris Johnson could have chosen to turn the scheme down or call for a public hearing when he met with his planning team on Wednesday.

He said he was "acutely aware of the concerns" some residents had.

But, he added: "I'm in no doubt that the development will provide a massive boost not just to this part of the capital, but to London's wider economy as well."

Labour London Assembly Member Tom Copley said on Twitter: "Very disappointed but not at all surprised that the Mayor has approved demolition of Earls Court Exhibition Centre.

"An appalling decision."

The development, straddling the boroughs of Kensington and Chelsea and Hammersmith and Fulham, is expected to take 20 years to complete.

London Mayor approves £8bn Earls Court plan
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Plans for a 77-acre redevelopment in Earls Court and West Kensington have been approved by the Mayor of London.

The ambitious proposals drawn up by Sir Terry Farrell will see the famous Earls Court Exhibition Centre demolished along with two housing estates.

This will pave the way for developer Capital & Counties to build 7,500 new homes across four new residential districts in West London.

Proposals also include include offices, leisure, hotel and retail space, as well as a new primary school, library, an integrated health centre and 5-acre public park.

The 10million sq ft plan is so large that it stretches across two London boroughs, which have already given outline approval despite some opposition from residents in the area.

London mayor Boris Johnson said: “I’m in no doubt that the development will provide a massive boost not just to this part of the capital, but to London’s wider economy as well.”
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Old July 4th, 2013, 12:12 PM   #86
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While I don't really care for the look of the rest of Earls Court...


It is a crime that they are knocking down the gorgeous front Art Deco bit.... There are so few examples of Art Deco in London, they should be listed.... At least move the front bit elsewhere...
It's actually Art Moderne rather than Art Deco, and as examples go, it's not a particularly good one - most of it is corrugated aluminium, hiding a multitude of sins.

The plaques from the top might be worth preserving.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #87
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Some of my first memories of London are coming to Earls Court for the Motor Show with my dad, what an amazing treat, even the tube from Kings Cross was an amazing adventure let alone the incredible Earls Court itself... all... big... and architecturey...

Since moving here I've been under it a billion times but not to it and rarely even past it. So my perspective was erring towards the "aww, knocking it down, seriously?" side, but I went over there tonight for some 'before' shots, and, ok, it's basically a dump isnt it



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Front of Earls Court by stevekeiretsu, on Flickr

Even from this 'pretty face' angle I can see (now I'm not 8 and three quarters) it sort of has the overall broad brushstrokes of Art DecoModerne but with no real quality in the execution/detailing

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Earls Court One by stevekeiretsu, on Flickr

this angle doesn't really inspire rallying cries for listing

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Seagrave Road Car Park - looking north by stevekeiretsu, on Flickr

and from over here it's just a pile


Anyway for those who really really like looking at pictures of empty car parks here is the seagrave road site and earls court itself, but really I took the photos on the basis they'd be interesting in 5 years time rather than now...

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London Power Tunnel shaft by stevekeiretsu, on Flickr

There was a small worksite in the SE corner of the car park, I wondered if it was somehow prep for Seagrave Road (aka Lillie Square) already but it turned out to be a shaft for the National Grid - London Power Tunnels project.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 12:55 AM   #88
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I am going to miss it, shame they aren't providing space for four tracks in the Overground encasement either.
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Am I the only one who doesn't think it's that important or good looking? It's certainly not ugly but I won't miss it that much.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 01:03 AM   #90
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It has great sentimental value for a lot of people though, it's not the best looker but it's iconic. Like BBC television centre.
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Ah, fair enough
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Old July 17th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #92
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I've been to Earls Court but I can't remember what exhibition it was for. It was only ever just a place I would pass on my way to Heathrow, so I'm not really as attached as a local west/sw Londoner may be.

Will Faichney recently took some good photos of the condemned estates in the vicinity:

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Old July 17th, 2013, 02:07 PM   #93
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Thanks for using this, I feel it's important to record these places as many dismiss them and don't do that
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Old July 18th, 2013, 12:14 AM   #94
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I wouldn't mind but every visual I've seen of the new Earls Court development just looks incredibly bland, it's a pity the exhibition centre could not of been incorporated more imaginatively into the design.
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Old July 19th, 2013, 12:19 AM   #95
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A deal has been struck today between CapCo and TfL, the last hurdle. The project is now ready to go, Earls Court's fate is sealed:

- Reuters: CapCo seals deal to flatten London's Earls Court centre

- Bloomberg: CapCo Agrees With Transport for London on Earls Court Framework

- Financial Times: Discussions between Capco and TfL advance
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Old July 19th, 2013, 02:19 PM   #96
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Last time I went to an exhibition at Earl's Court I made a point of studying the detail of the building - both inside and out. For an art deco building of such importance at the time of building it is remarkably banal. There really isn;t anything on the inside of the least interest or worth saving. I for one will not regret its demise - though I do agree with the comments about sentimental value. Earl's Court WITHOUT Earl's Court is hard to imagine.
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Earl's Court WITHOUT Earl's Court is hard to imagine.
The Manorial court the place is named after is long gone.
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To many, Earl's Court is the Exhibition Centre, though. The very name has become synonymous with certain, high profile events. The 02 is great, but it lacks that cultural association yet. It all feels a bit too, fake. Earl's Court is in a real, fancy inner city bit of London with all the shops and restaurants that sprung up around it, grass roots. The chains of Greenwich cannot emulate this.

My oldest memory of it was a Royal Artillery performance at Earl's Court 2. Saw the Foo Fighters on my 18th birthday at 1. Been attending Eurogamer in the smaller rooms every year for the past 4. Not sure where Eurogamer is going now, if it is East London that will be a royal pain in the arse (right now, we change from the slow Portsmouth train to the Overground at CJ).

They really need to revise the Overground provision though. Leave space in the 'tunnel' for four tracks, passive provision.
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It has great sentimental value for a lot of people though, it's not the best looker but it's iconic. Like BBC television centre.
and in engineer terms is enormously important historically.

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My oldest memory of it was a Royal Artillery performance at Earl's Court 2. Saw the Foo Fighters on my 18th birthday at 1. Been attending Eurogamer in the smaller rooms every year for the past 4. Not sure where Eurogamer is going now, if it is East London that will be a royal pain in the arse (right now, we change from the slow Portsmouth train to the Overground at CJ).
the exhibitions held at earls court contribute £1 billion a year to the british economy apparently - largely to british manufacturing and the creative industries, actual wealth creators. there's nowhere else for them in london which means we need a new exhibition centre, or lose that to birmingham and glasgow, neither of which have the international cachet of london. most of the people against it who are politicians oppose the project on the basis of a long term benefit cost ratio. there's more than a few politicians who would CPO the exhibition centre if they could.

in terms of the local businesses it's devastating. many hotels in the area exist for delegates going to earls court, they aren't going to be there any more. a lot of local businesses will go bust.
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Are you talking about how the whole thing (1 and 2) is rafted over a myriad of Rail junctions and mess?
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