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Old March 23rd, 2007, 03:57 PM   #41
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Kick-off at last for 2010 stadium

By Lindsay Dentlinger

The South African Football Association (Safa) in the Western Cape says it will push for at least six 2010 World Cup games to be played at the Green Point Stadium.

This will be at least two more games than other stadiums are likely to get, says Safa's Western Cape representative Vernon Seymour .

"We have a lot of confidence that we will get them and have the largest number of matches," he said.

Seymour said that in its proposal to Fifa the association would draw on the appeal of Cape Town to the international footballing community.

Seymour said Cape Town would hope to get three first-round matches, one top 16, a quarter and a semi-final. Originally only three first round matches were to be played in Cape Town but the decision to build a stadium at Green Point would allow for a semi-final.

After yesterday's sod-turning and blessing there is now no turning back on the controversial 2010 stadium at Green Point, with construction set to start in two weeks.

The Murray & Roberts and WBHO joint venture told the Cape Argus they would need that time to mobilise staff and equipment and finalise sub-contractors. Excavation works are only expected to begin in the next six to eight weeks.

Murray & Roberts group executive director Sean Flanagan said those involved in the project, including consultants and city officials, would meet at the golf course tomorrow for a team-building exercise and also to play the last round of golf on the course.

Flanagan said design information was still outstanding, and the company had to do a lot of procurement before construction got under way.

The joint venture for the R2.85 billion, 68 000-seater stadium is an equal partnership between the two companies - with risk and reward being shared in the same amount.

WBHO chairman Mike Wylie said his company viewed the project as so important that its local managing directors were being pulled off other projects to assist in the building of the stadium.

Flanagan said the consortium had decided to bid only for the stadium project in Cape Town as it was well aware of the risks of building stadiums internationally.

Mayor Helen Zille said yesterday the completion of the 2010 stadium project would indicate to the world that Africa could manage to host an event of this magnitude.

"With all the legacies that we have to leave behind, we have to assign Afro-pessimism to the dustbin of history," she said.

But Zille emphasised that the far greater achievement for the city in preparation for 2010 would be revamping the public transport system. "It makes the stadium look like the opening round," she quipped.

Premier Ebrahim Rasool also emphasised that the legacies of the 2010 World Cup were all-important, including improved public transport, increased GDP, the creation of jobs and turnover of tourists, both before and after the event.

The event was merely the "cheese in the trap", he said.

"As an ANC member I know that we would have preferred Athlone [for the new stadium], the DA would have preferred Newlands and the residents of Green Point would have preferred anywhere else. The debate is now closed and the fighting has ended."

He said the sod-turning ceremony represented the "victory of co-operation and unity over division".

Published on the web by Cape Argus on March 21, 2007.
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Stadium site

The new stadium will be constructed adjacent to the existing stadium in picture at the golf course site:

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When does demolition begin? cos here in durban they have been at work on the site since October, so cape town has a good 5 months, nearly 6 to make up. Lets hope its full steam ahead
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Old March 26th, 2007, 01:10 AM   #47
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Great photos Mo

I had the BEST seafood-platter in a restaurant in that turquoise-roofed building on the left of the first pic If I wasn't at Uni I'd love to go back to South Africa for the World Cup in 2010... the stadium will look excellent

To Mo: You know both of the URL addresses in your signature link to the same thread? lol
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Urban park set for public participation process

City residents to have their say on green zone

By Lindsay Dentlinger

The sixth public participation process related to the building of the Green Point Stadium is due to start on Thursday and city residents are invited to have their say about the design of the urban park at the site.

Residents will have until May 25 to comment on the proposed redevelopment of Green Point Common, including as to whether the city will be able to proceed in building a new golf course for the Metropolitan Golf Club on the portion earmarked for this purpose.

At a series of 10 public meetings residents will be provided with images and information about the plans for the sports and recreation precinct.

Information packs will also be available at city libraries.

City of Cape Town 2010 spokesman Pieter Cronje announced yesterday that the meetings would be held in Atlantis, Woodstock, Gugu-lethu, Mitchell's Plain, Muizenberg, Athlone, Strand, Parow, Khayelitsha and Kraaifontein. The venues, dates and times will be advertised in local and community newspapers this week.

The city has to provide Environment, Planning and Economic Development MEC Tasneem Essop with designs and plans for the urban park by July 6. Public comments are to be included in this report.

This latest public participation process is a condition of the revised environmental Record of Decision, issued by Essop in January, confirming the site for the building of the stadium.

This week a consortium of Murray and Roberts and WBHO is expected to move on site to prepare for the construction of the stadium next month.

At the meetings, Cronje said, the concept of the urban park will be explained to interested members of the public.

The proposed park will comprise a consolidated sports precinct for cricket, rugby, soccer, tennis, golf, bowls and athletics and a public pedestrian network linking the historic sites of the Mouille Point Lighthouse headquarters on the beachfront promenade and Fort Wynyard.

In addition, a display at each venue will contain aerial photographs, conceptual drawings, and plans. These will cover the history, uses of and proposals for the urban park.

The size of the Green Point Common sports, park and recreation area, which will be around 60 hectares, will also be compared with other park areas in the metropolitan area.

A visual presentation will also be given at each public meeting, and questions from the audience will be answered by subject experts from the city and consultants. An independent facilitator will run the meetings. Minutes will be taken and members of the public will also be able to record their comments in writing.

Published on the web by Cape Argus on March 26, 2007.

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1. The R120 million urban park will surround the world cup stadium and will become and intergrated park and sport environment.

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11th-hour interdict to thwart 2010 stadium

March 26 2007 at 01:57PM

By Lindsay Dentlinger

A high-powered legal team for the Cape Town Environmental Protection Association (CEPA) is working around the clock to bring a High Court application to stop the building of the Green Point Stadium.

Papers could be served on the City of Cape Town before the end of the week.

CEPA chairman and former city councillor Arthur Wienburg said that the intention was to get an interdict against construction even before contractors began their work.

'There are a multitude of legal reasons'
But the matter was taking time because it was "more complex than first thought".

"There are a multitude of legal reasons to oppose the building of the stadium and there are many more reasons (on which) to base this application than originally thought," Wienburg said.

He did not want to elaborate on these yet.

Despite numerous failed attempts by objectors to stop the building of the stadium, Wienburg says the association is not backing down.

"It's not a case of if, it's when," he said.

'It is not a random project'
A meeting of the association was held on Thursday night but it was closed to the media. Wienburg said it had been held to encourage people to join the recently formed association and feel comfortable about expressing their views.

Another meeting at which supporters can join the association will be held this week.

Wienburg said there had been "overwhelming support" so far for the association's first project and that there was "real anger" among Capetonians over the building of the new stadium.

Wienburg said CEPA membership had reached the 100 mark and the opposition to the building of the stadium was being supported beyond residents living in the immediate vicinity.

The sod-turning ceremony took place last week and contractors are expected to be on site within the next two weeks.

But Wienburg said he did not believe it was too late to bring the project to a halt.

"It's only too late if you leave it and do nothing," he added. Wienburg said he did not believe that the city had been sharing all the necessary information on the stadium with ratepayers.

While the association was not against the 2010 soccer World Cup tournament itself, its concerns were rooted in financial and ecological arguments, he said.

The association did not want to see the Green Point Common "decimated" for a huge stadium.

"We want to stop all this madness taking place," Wienburg said.

"People will die in hospitals because of budget cuts while a few people watch 90 minutes of soccer."

The city's 2010 spokesperson, Pieter Cronje, confirmed that the city had received a request from CEPA's legal team to provide them with information on the statutory processes that had been followed in approving the building of the stadium.

The city was preparing a response to this, he said, but it viewed the association's intentions as "unproductive".

"There have been so many processes, with public participation and appeals, which have arrived at this conclusion (to build the stadium at Green Point)," Cronje said.

"It is not a random project. There is development at the Waterfront, Somerset Hospital and the (Central Business District)."

Cronje said the question that needed to be asked was whether the city wanted to continue maintaining the Green Point Common in its current run-down state.
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11th-hour interdict to thwart 2010 stadium

March 26 2007 at 01:57PM

By Lindsay Dentlinger

A high-powered legal team for the Cape Town Environmental Protection Association (CEPA) is working around the clock to bring a High Court application to stop the building of the Green Point Stadium.

Papers could be served on the City of Cape Town before the end of the week.

CEPA chairman and former city councillor Arthur Wienburg said that the intention was to get an interdict against construction even before contractors began their work.

'There are a multitude of legal reasons'
But the matter was taking time because it was "more complex than first thought".

"There are a multitude of legal reasons to oppose the building of the stadium and there are many more reasons (on which) to base this application than originally thought," Wienburg said.

He did not want to elaborate on these yet.

Despite numerous failed attempts by objectors to stop the building of the stadium, Wienburg says the association is not backing down.

"It's not a case of if, it's when," he said.

'It is not a random project'
A meeting of the association was held on Thursday night but it was closed to the media. Wienburg said it had been held to encourage people to join the recently formed association and feel comfortable about expressing their views.

Another meeting at which supporters can join the association will be held this week.

Wienburg said there had been "overwhelming support" so far for the association's first project and that there was "real anger" among Capetonians over the building of the new stadium.

Wienburg said CEPA membership had reached the 100 mark and the opposition to the building of the stadium was being supported beyond residents living in the immediate vicinity.

The sod-turning ceremony took place last week and contractors are expected to be on site within the next two weeks.

But Wienburg said he did not believe it was too late to bring the project to a halt.

"It's only too late if you leave it and do nothing," he added. Wienburg said he did not believe that the city had been sharing all the necessary information on the stadium with ratepayers.

While the association was not against the 2010 soccer World Cup tournament itself, its concerns were rooted in financial and ecological arguments, he said.

The association did not want to see the Green Point Common "decimated" for a huge stadium.

"We want to stop all this madness taking place," Wienburg said.

"People will die in hospitals because of budget cuts while a few people watch 90 minutes of soccer."

The city's 2010 spokesperson, Pieter Cronje, confirmed that the city had received a request from CEPA's legal team to provide them with information on the statutory processes that had been followed in approving the building of the stadium.

The city was preparing a response to this, he said, but it viewed the association's intentions as "unproductive".

"There have been so many processes, with public participation and appeals, which have arrived at this conclusion (to build the stadium at Green Point)," Cronje said.

"It is not a random project. There is development at the Waterfront, Somerset Hospital and the (Central Business District)."

Cronje said the question that needed to be asked was whether the city wanted to continue maintaining the Green Point Common in its current run-down state.
1. WP athletics where were u during the countless public participation meetings etc.
2. CEPA where were you during the countless public participation meetings?
Where were you when GPCA was fighting the stadium?.

Its too late now. good luck in going up against the gvt of RSA.
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but they will. where will the WP athletics move?
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but they will. where will the WP athletics move?
as i said good luck to them. You spend a year dealing with every single legal process and listening to everyone, even the narrow mindedness of some of the GPCA members and after that CEPA(anyone heard of them before????) make statements like "cape town is against the stadium" and decide thats its their turn to make some noise.

As before, this has been mentioned.

The construction team will retain the grandstand, and a grass embankment will surround the other end of the stadium. A decision will be made on whether to retain the grand stand or construct a smaller more suitable venue. Various other excellent facilities exist in CT, that are/were used far more frequently than greenpoint.
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Comparison: Cape Town World Cup stadium , Allianz Arena

Allianz Dimensions

* Stadium: 258 m x 227 m x 50 m
* Playing level: 120 m x 83 m
* Gross grass area: 111 m x 72 m
* Playing field: 105 m x 68 m
* Parking garage: 270,000 m▓
Cost: 340 million Euros


Cape Town Dimensions (after height and radius reduction)

* Stadium: 274 m x 242 m x 48 m
* Playing level: 127 m x 83 m
* Gross grass area: 125 m x 72 m
* Playing field: 105 m x 68 m
* Podium: 40,000 m▓
Cost: 295 million Euros

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Capacity 2010:68,000 seats
Permanent Seats: 55,000
Temporary: 15,000 modular seats, removed post 2010

The design team has used its best resources to balance the project’s internal demands of delivery with the justified requirements brought to the site by current and potential future users. The vision of Green Point Common as a high value and high quality urban park and recreation area available for safe and flexible use by its citizens, has been one of the key drivers of the design thinking. Against the backdrop of Table Mountain and in the presence of the Atlantic Ocean, the stadium has been consciously designed as an element extending and contributing to the urban fabric and texture of Cape Town.

The roof


• The roof

Is located above the highest level of seats, and contains an accessible roof including
the ‘Ring of Fire’ lighting and media zone, with catwalk access into and through the
roof structure.

The roof is a critical component of the interior architecture. As a suspended roof plane, it focuses attention downwards onto the playing field. At the same time, the underside of the roof surface, hovering above the spectators, operates in a way similar to the fašade. The translucent mesh skin under the
steel cable and truss structure will act as a luminous disc during days of sunlight and will transmit the colour and atmosphere of the day into the stadium interior. The double skin design of the roof further makes it possible to accommodate (unsightly) services therein and, for example, avoid the use of pylons for the floodlighting. It fulfils an important function as far as noise attenuation is concerned. The roof structure is designed as an acoustic "body” with its own internal volume. The principle of utilising the air space inside the body of the roof as a noise buffer is one of the compelling simple and active design principles applied to the stadium. The key to this principle is the requirement that the “inner” (lower) and “outer” (upper) surface of the roof structure must have different densities and therefore display different acoustic performance characteristics.

Use of ETFE (used in the Beijing Olympic Stadium and the skin of the Water Cube(Olympic Aquatic Centre), Allianz Arena - stadium roof and walls




The current design foresees and ETFE (fibreglass-like) cloth membrane, which is partly permeable. This “breathing” softer inner skin disperses sound waves and, since it is not a hard surface, absorbs sound into the body of the roof. The outer (top) skin is currently designed and budgeted as a fixed glass skin, which provides a hard resonant surface which reflects sound waves back into the body of the roof. Through the sloping surface of the roof, sound waves are diffracted back against the soft inner skin membrane, where they are further dispersed.

The Green Point stadium has one primary fašade system, which is a cable-suspended ETFE membrane similar, if not identical, to the lower skin of the roof structure. The exact type of ETFE membrane will depend on the results of the acoustic model. ETFE membranes are available in many types of grades and textures, which have been independently tested for their acoustic performance. The starting point of the fašade design, therefore, is a scientific
certainty as to the basic acoustical properties of the primary fašade material.

The ETFE membrane forms a continuous, taut but flexible skin, clipped into a lightweight aluminium frame. The frame is stiffened against the massive concrete structure of the stadium by means of round hollow steel sections. Vibrations occurring in the fašade itself, either from emitted noise or from wind vibrations imposed on the structure, are absorbed through the stiffening rods into the building’s massive structure.

Less than 15% of the bowl’s inside surface lets through sound waves directly to the outer walls of the building. In addition, only about 70% of the stadium
fašade is covered only by the vertical mesh membrane.

This results in about 10.5% of the outer fašade being exposed to direct noise emitted from inside the stadium. As mentioned previously, some of the areas that are directly under the roof edge will have a more carefully detailed double fašade skin application, which will perform better than the average outer fašade.

The continuous outer skin has to deal with about 8% of the direct noise from inside the stadium, after these areas have been accounted for. Preliminary tests indicate that the ETFE membrane selected for the fašade, has a porosity of 60%, meaning that it further breaks down sound waves directed at it.



Noise control and ventilation

Concerns have been voiced about the noise emission from the plaza level (level 2) exits from the stadium, which occur under the outer fašade. This is being tested in detail in the acoustic model. The intention is to apply sound-absorbing or sound-reducing materials to the ceilings of these public entrances, to break up reflecting sound waves between floor and ceiling at this level of the stadium. The vertical gab between the inside bowl and the corridor is only 2.2m and the middle tier is cantilevering over the lower tier. 38 of 72 grids are open to the outside, all others contain restrooms toward the outside and concessions towards the inner concourse. The inner corridor has a depth of 17m towards the concession stands. The distance from the concourse towards the outer edge of the fašade column varies between 11 and 30 m. The substantial floor plate depth (i.e. distance between bowl edge and outer structural edge of stadium) on this level assists in dispersing sound waves escaping from the stadium bowl into the space under the raked stadium seats. Further, as in all modern soccer arenas, the pitch is subject to huge ventilation problems. A blanket of cold air will accommodate itself on the pitch and the opening in the roof alone is too small to circulate the
air down to and on the pitch. Good ventilation can only be achieved with cross ventilation above the lower concourse together with four diagonal openings in the corners. Thus 53% of the concourse area is open to the outside and cannot be closed to achieve a ventilation effect. The design is aimed at finding an optimal solution for both sound and ventilation aspects.


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just wondering how the roof is supported
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just wondering how the roof is supported
1. Temporary seating will be used in the third tier. (13,000) After the world cup will be used as office and convention space.
2. Roof is supported by cables between the double layer of ETFE membrane.
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The stadium kind of reminds me of Allianz
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