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Old April 10th, 2019, 01:03 PM   #521
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Nowhere in the world do you see trash being thrown on streets, nallahs, rivers, lakes, rooftops, parks etc etc like you do in India which without any doubt is the dirtiest country in the world, not to mention open defecation even when toilets are provided & made available.
No cities other than those in India need to remove muck & garbage from every street side gutter prior each monsoon rain. Why?
So, it is the dirty & undisciplined culture & not mysterious problems with waste collection, disposal or lack of "modern dump". If "Waste to Energy combustion plants" are missing, its because of deep rooted corruption & tax dodgers that cripple municipal & federal budgets.

Really? Guess you haven't traveled abroad & are just typing something wishy washy. Visit Hounslow, Wembley, Southall or Harrow in London. Visit Jackson heights in New York or India square in Jersey city. Compare them to Chinese areas or other ethnic areas in the same city & you'll see how dirty Indians abroad are.
Agree with everything youíve said save for one little sentence about the chinese... chi town in NYC is disgustingly filthy.
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Old April 10th, 2019, 01:35 PM   #522
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Nowhere in the world do you see trash being thrown on streets, (..)
You obviously haven't traveled much in our world. This "nowhere in the world" allegation and misinformation is just nonsense.

I can post hundreds of photos from around the world to prove you wrong, but this forum isn't the right place for that.

Trash throwing in streets, rivers, drains, beaches and such is common in impoverished countries everywhere. Sanitized tourist spots for "foreign exchange earnings" in many parts of our world tend to be cleaner.

You can read about the universality of solid waste problem in WHO, WB and other sources such as this one, this one, and so on.
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Some images and articles on solid waste problems in the streets and towns elsewhere.

Egypt (2018): Link

Nigeria: Link

South Africa: Link

Benin: Link

Pakistan: Link

Indonesia: Link

There are numerous more. Those are just a few examples. You can hundreds of such links and studies. Solid waste throwing, or more accurately solid waste collection, transport and then its safe ultimate destruction is a global problem. It is far more visible in underdeveloped as well as developing but densely populated regions of our world.

It is wrong to blame, allege, insult and attack a particular people culture or national origin or people when the same problem exists irrespective of culture or national origin, and when the root causes of a problem are elsewhere and in need of science and process management analysis.
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Old April 23rd, 2019, 05:08 AM   #524
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Isn't it D-day for this project?
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Old April 23rd, 2019, 08:04 AM   #525
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Isn't it D-day for this project?
Yes. but by the look of it the stay will remain until after the holiday season. sad to see a deserted look on the work site everyday.

Same activists want to stop

1. Coastal Road
2. Metro 3
3. Shivaji Statue
4. MTHL
5. Parking lot at linking road

after delays the same activists will complain about the increase in cost of the project. lost hope with these idiots. what is annoying tis hat so many well travelled citizens of breach candy opposing the project without any facts, and will then talk about how beautiful their summer was in developed countries and how good the infrastructure is over there.

god save the project.
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Old April 23rd, 2019, 01:13 PM   #526
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This was expected at Least 2-3 times in the project.
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Old April 23rd, 2019, 01:15 PM   #527
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It's sad, but BMC had it coming, how can they start work based on clearance for another stretch? There is enough merit in mishandling on this project to justify this stay order. Let's hope they go through the right channels and get it sorted by the end of monsoon. Else another project which will take decades to complete.

MTHL and Metro 3 have really done the groundwork, so the work will continue despite various cases. Not that case with this project.
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Old April 23rd, 2019, 04:33 PM   #528
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Yes. but by the look of it the stay will remain until after the holiday season. sad to see a deserted look on the work site everyday.

Same activists want to stop

1. Coastal Road
2. Metro 3
3. Shivaji Statue
4. MTHL
5. Parking lot at linking road

after delays the same activists will complain about the increase in cost of the project. lost hope with these idiots. what is annoying tis hat so many well travelled citizens of breach candy opposing the project without any facts, and will then talk about how beautiful their summer was in developed countries and how good the infrastructure is over there.

god save the project.
Those people don't want to ruin their sunsets, isn't that how it started a few months ago? The ones around priyadarshini park have also proposed a new site for the interchange lol.

It won't be surprising if some elements in these come out in support of this project in a month, citing all queries answered. After all, having equipment on the ground is going to cost 100+ crores in losses, it would be much easier to have some sort of settlement?

God save the nation from these elements!
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Old April 23rd, 2019, 05:45 PM   #529
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Well then they can live through the crumbling traffic and suffer in trains and metro all their lives. What will they get out of it? A bad quality of life in return of a sunset view.
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Old April 23rd, 2019, 05:51 PM   #530
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Or maybe loosing power forever due to the political parties they don't like will be getting credit for infrastructure development..... These nature, heritage, poor people etc etc are just excuses for them (sorry I am a political freak and I see it in everything except shirts and pants )....Let the general elections and state election of Maharashtra get over, I am sure these projects will progress after that
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Old April 24th, 2019, 07:22 AM   #531
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Stay extended until next hearing on 3rd June. Doomed. Hope SC appeal helps.
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Old April 24th, 2019, 08:02 AM   #532
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It may be a blessing in disguise! The coastal road can be built fully elevated from Priyadarshini Park to BWSL without any need for reclamation!! Time for MCGM to rethink.
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I’m all for the coastal road just like the majority of Bombayites are... but... the residents of the areas being affected by the coastal road have a right to know what is going on. No impact studies have been shared in the public domain so far.
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Iím all for the coastal road just like the majority of Bombayites are... but... the residents of the areas being affected by the coastal road have a right to know what is going on. No impact studies have been shared in the public domain so far.
Transparency is good but it will be fallacious to assume sharing it with the public is going to solve issues. As a researcher, I can say, a good study (and I emphasize good) has a lot of nuanced points which are well outside the reach of a person not in the field. A significant number of these studies go through peer review where fellow academics and scholars critique them. But not average residents. Beyond that, sharing studies will have the same effect as not sharing. People will still complain. But this time, cherry picking studies n results
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Transparency is good but it will be fallacious to assume sharing it with the public is going to solve issues. As a researcher, I can say, a good study (and I emphasize good) has a lot of nuanced points which are well outside the reach of a person not in the field. A significant number of these studies go through peer review where fellow academics and scholars critique them. But not average residents. Beyond that, sharing studies will have the same effect as not sharing. People will still complain. But this time, cherry picking studies n results
Sharing critical studies in the public domain isnít going to change opinions overnight, but will certainly start to steer the latter in the right direction. The fact of the matter is that most coastal residents have a problem with the lack of information dissemination and the general high handedness of the BMC.
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Why are scum like zoru bhatena allowed to litigate against virtually all infra projects in the city? The treasonous milords happily delayed the judgement to June. Who TF is going to pay for the 10 crore DAILY cost escalation?
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Because its a free country and anyone can have a say and protest against anything they want in the name of "public interests". Whether it is in the public interest or not, it is upto the court to judge. And going by the recent judgment from the Indian courts, they are just increasing the case of such PILs as Against-PILs.
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Why are scum like zoru bhatena allowed to litigate against virtually all infra projects in the city? The treasonous milords happily delayed the judgement to June. Who TF is going to pay for the 10 crore DAILY cost escalation?
Simple question: why is Zoru Bathena scum? Is it because he happens to be richer than the average mass-transit-traveling Bombayite who lives in chawl-like apartments in the far flung suburbs and fully utilises his fundamental right to seek answers to questions he put forth to the BMC? Anyone who happens to question massive infra projects in the city is not automatically a scumbag. Really.

Hopefully the courts will not delay the project further.
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Are there any other democratic countries which can start such massive project using tax payers money, but without public consultation or discussion?
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Why are scum like zoru bhatena allowed to litigate against virtually all infra projects in the city? The treasonous milords happily delayed the judgement to June. Who TF is going to pay for the 10 crore DAILY cost escalation?
BMC has to pay, who asked them to start work and not take all necessary permissions? As much as I want this project to get made, one needs to do the due diligence.
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