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Old September 17th, 2019, 05:15 PM   #13021
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It seems two buildings were given only temporary approval by municipality...

Is it not responsibility of buyers to ensure building has proper approvals


Maradu flats: Builders were given only temporary building number for two apartment complexes


Documents said that the Alpha Ventures and Jain Housing, builders of the apartment, were given only UA number (unauthorised construction) by the municipality. UA certificates are given to buildings constructed violating rules. According to reports, UA certificate was given to two Maradu flat complexes with a condition of eviction if the court asks to do so.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 05:17 PM   #13022
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How was the tax paid...no one bothered to check the temporary approval...

This is a lesson for all...
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Old September 17th, 2019, 06:54 PM   #13023
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DLF Case is different. The constructions in DLF Case are in CRZ-II area, not CRZ-III area. The problem with DLF was regarding 'when to obtain' the CRZ -- not a case of not obtaining at all. DLF is eligible for CRZ clearance under the current norms -- whereas Maradu constructions are not.
Maradu was included under CRZ 2 as per the notification from the Ministry of Environment on Feb 28. Even Justice Mishra during the judgement quoted the same. He told that it doesn't matter whether the building is legal now, it should be razed since it was illegal at the time of construction, which actually seems irrational. And as for the DLF case, the HC order against DLF demolition was upheld by the SC agreeing that demolition would cause more damage than retaining it. This can be considered in Maradu case too. As per Madras IIT report, demolition of the four apartment buildings would adversely affect the environment including the nearby canals, vegetation and nearby houses. The report also says that the demolition would cause air pollution around a circumference of 1 sq.km and disposing of tens and thousands of tonnes of debris will become a huge liability.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:00 PM   #13024
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It's a catch 22 situation...

If govt support flat owners..it means it's legalising illegal buildings.
If it doesn't support...then govt is not supporting public sentiment.

After reading the news that two buildings were only given temporary approval that too mentioning that it's a illegal construction..

I feel investors should have been careful... you can't assume that building is legal just bcoz some banks approved the housing loan.

It's really surprised to see how this was not verified..

NRIs who book flat during some property show in gulf
will be now double careful.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 11:01 PM   #13025
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Nothing will happen KMC . Ellarkum pattikkaanum ellarkum drohichu suicide cheyyikkaanum pinneyum Gulf Malayalees baakky undaakum . Not realizing the fact that without gulf remittance and bevco and lottery Keral is a dead state .
But there is a welcome change
Pravasy chitty ettu nilakku potty .
Even NRK Malayalees are trying to open their eyes .
U can fool some for sometime but not all for all the time
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Old September 18th, 2019, 04:40 AM   #13026
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Cinelpolis closure, Maradu flats. Palrivattom flyover. things are not good for kochi
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Old September 18th, 2019, 05:29 AM   #13027
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Public are eager to construct houses/apartments (a) at the edge of narrow roads (b) close to water bodies (even if that means their houses are submerged in floods).
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Old September 18th, 2019, 06:21 AM   #13028
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Apart from sentiments, the following questions remain.

2. Are the buyers so uneducated not to know that there is a CRZ rule in India? I do not think so. These are high end flats and the buyers must be surely rich and educated. Are they so dumb not to know the implications of a temporary permit? I have not seen these buildings in person. But I have seen the news video clippings. The buildings are so close to the water body that any fool can notice the implications. I for sure will not buy it without scrutinizing the documents.

2. The present law squarely place the responsibility on the buyer more than on the vendor. You can sue the vendor later on. That is a different matter. If you join a fraudulent financial scheme like a chit fund and get duped, even when the company is following all the rules, do you expect the government and the general public to come to your rescue. Never. You did what you did at your own risk. You or the government can prosecute them later on. But the society at large is not responsible for it.

3. To whip up the NRK sentiment is all baloney. Are NRKs above the law? Where were and where are our sentiments when poor people are evicted every day all over India for illegal constructions or illegal occupation of land. There is a hue and cry when rich and mighty people are touched. Because all the politicians and executives are beneficiaries of their largesse. See the attitude of MM Mani in Munnar cases. Suicides are only blackmailing. That is not a solution.

4. This is not the first time a residential tower is getting demolished on a court order. It has been done in many major Indian cities including some floors of Adarsh flats built for defence personnel in Mumbai. Kerala is not something special.

5. The government can surely take action on the builder. Also on the local body officials who connived with the builder. Why it has not been taken? There is a clear collusion between the government, builder and the local body. I also suspect a collusion between the buyers and builders. Otherwise why didn't a single buyer file a case against the builders and the local body officials? Even after all these fiasco.

So keep aside your sentiments (for the rich). And be pragmatic.
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Old September 18th, 2019, 06:54 AM   #13029
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There are a handful of high rise residential towers in Kannur. All of them, except two, are in safe zones.

I am worried about these exceptional two. I do not want to name them. But they are twenty and thirteen floor structures situated on a high rocky coast in Payyaambalam. One is hardly ten metres away from the sea water built on a hanging rocky formation protruding directly to the sea with an approximate height of ten metres. The other one is hardly twenty metres away on the very same rocky coast hanging over the sea.

Just below the rocks huge waves are hammering the rocky coast day in and day out. Huge rocky boulders broken away from this rocky coast are strewn all below.

Forget all the CRZ laws. I have no idea which fool gave permissions for these two buildings. And which fools purchased it. Even the thought is terrifying to me. What if the rock split due to the weight if these huge structures? What if the ground give away due to natural water channels beneath the ground? How about a land slide bringing down these structures to the sea down below?

There are no answers. You can be as callous and stupid as you can be. But I may not stay in these buildings even if a flat was given free to me. You may say nothing has happened so far. But nothing happens till it happens.
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Old September 18th, 2019, 03:59 PM   #13030
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Excellent news for Kochi & Kerala!

Kochi to be a terminal node of the National Industrial Corridor.

The Union Government has approved the Kochi - Coimbatore Industrial Corridor, which would extend the Chennai - Bangalore Industrial Corridor to Kochi.



https://www.manoramanews.com/news/br...-corridor.html
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Old September 19th, 2019, 03:12 PM   #13031
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Excellent news for Kochi & Kerala!

Kochi to be a terminal node of the National Industrial Corridor.

The Union Government has approved the Kochi - Coimbatore Industrial Corridor, which would extend the Chennai - Bangalore Industrial Corridor to Kochi.



https://www.manoramanews.com/news/br...-corridor.html
It'll really help boost our port 😍
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Old September 25th, 2019, 01:59 PM   #13032
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It seems nobody liked my 'meen' post. And the online 'matsyam' advertisement by that online gentle man whose dreams are shattered now. And what about the citizens of Kochi who prefer to have their fish delivered online - cut, cleaned and carried to their door step by a poor courier boy whose wife is bound to divorce him for his unbearable fishy smell in her bed? Sad.

And what about 'Kochi metro's' deleted post?
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Old September 25th, 2019, 08:30 PM   #13033
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Ithokke vannal parayam vannu ennu.


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Excellent news for Kochi & Kerala!

Kochi to be a terminal node of the National Industrial Corridor.

The Union Government has approved the Kochi - Coimbatore Industrial Corridor, which would extend the Chennai - Bangalore Industrial Corridor to Kochi.



https://www.manoramanews.com/news/br...-corridor.html
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Old September 25th, 2019, 08:36 PM   #13034
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Cinepolis closure and Maradu flats cannot be spoken in the same breath Maradu is much much more serious.

If Cinepolis closes down people can go to PVR or Oberon or X, Y Z and even if the dont watch movies for some days nothing is going to happen

But Maradu flats now the electricity and water has been disconnected . Disgusting that people who have invested several lakhs are being put to this kind of dilemma.

Now everyone will think twice before investing in a flat anywhere in Kochi.

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Old September 26th, 2019, 08:18 AM   #13035
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Why should any one 'invest' in flats? What sort of an investment is this? I thought flats are residences to live in. You can invest in land, deposits, shares, gold, industries and even in lotteries and bit coins. If you are that greedy invest in goat/pig/teak/manchium/money chain schemes. Why invest in 'flats'?
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Old September 26th, 2019, 08:30 AM   #13036
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Am I surprised? Not at all.

Now the cat is out of the bag. Today's news paper reports state that there are more than 1800 residential buildings in Kerala which are built breaking one law or the other.

I have been shouting about it from the roof top for a very long time. Only to be decried by worshippers of high rise concrete towers. They think these sorts of ugly things shall make their city great!

Now all of those who 'invested' in these 1800 illegal structures can have very beautiful sleep less nights ahead. A grand majority of them must be in Kochi.

Does my heart melt with the milk of human compassion for them? Not at all. As you sow, so you reap.
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Old September 26th, 2019, 08:45 AM   #13037
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Now the Kerala government has slapped criminal charges against the builders of Marad apartments. And frozen their bank accounts. If convicted they are all assured of 'government food' as Pinarayi aptly described it in a different context.

Now what about the local body elected representatives and officials who connived with the builders? Why the Kerala government is not charging them? Will they ever?
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Old September 26th, 2019, 09:02 AM   #13038
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I think technically, the builders are safe if they goto court since they haven't in principle committed crime, and the blame goes to the officials who interpret the law. Maybe if there is proof, the bulders can be blamed for bribe charges. The government should set an example of punishing the officials who were behind approving these 1800 buildings, nothing less than dismissing them from service. 1800 പോയിട്ട് ഒരു 50 ഫ്ലാറ്റ് പൊളിക്കാനുള്ള വരുമാനം പോലുമില്ലാത്ത സർക്കാരാണ് .
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Old September 26th, 2019, 12:29 PM   #13039
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One video clip of a young girl, Greta Thunberg, has gone viral. The speech she gave in UN climate change meet - "How dare you?"

I think it is valid for our small state Kerala also. This must be played again and again to our planners, government, politicians, local body members, Mayors, builders and public in general.

Let some light enter their lives.
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Old September 26th, 2019, 01:21 PM   #13040
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I saw somewhere you posted about the importance of Thalassery Mysore Rail link. The single project which is going to affect entire ecosystem of Western Ghats. What is your stand in that now??

Environment fanatics and development fanatics are two sides of the same coin. first group cry about environment until they get a project benefiting them. Development people will cry for development until their land or house get demolished for development.
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