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Old July 7th, 2019, 11:44 PM   #801
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Even when using ETCS a train driver should stop to a red signal and call the operating room. When a line is equipped with more than a signalling system they can not provide different information, and if so the most restrictive signal must be respected. This is the procedure in Italy but I think it's also common sense.

If they are really authorized to constantly ignore red light signals then they could as well turn the entire system off and get more safety... it's really a BAD situation.
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Old July 22nd, 2019, 03:29 PM   #802
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Also, the Kiato to Aigio segment of the Athens-Patras line should open by August, without signalling and electrification, which will come in late 2020-2021.
Did you find any Greek news about the opening of the line soon? Or is the opening postponed?
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Old July 27th, 2019, 03:07 PM   #803
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Probably this will happen in the summer (if there is no additional delay).
Any news on all the safety tests? I assume summer was too optimistic and it will be later in 2019?
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On the platform of Kiato this August I heard from an employee that the opening of the line would be 6 September. Any news about this?
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Old September 18th, 2019, 03:10 PM   #805
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Any news on further journey time improvements/increase in frequency in the new December timetable?
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Any news about Pendolinos?
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Old September 19th, 2019, 04:42 PM   #807
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Any news about Pendolinos?
Indeed, was about to ask the same question..
Next to the Pendolino's, does FS have any intention to transfer more redundant rolling stock to Greece ? I'm thinking of E402B's which already have 25kV capability, along with some UIC-Z coaches which are in better shape than the Greek ones..
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Old September 20th, 2019, 11:28 AM   #809
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Indeed, was about to ask the same question..
Next to the Pendolino's, does FS have any intention to transfer more redundant rolling stock to Greece ? I'm thinking of E402B's which already have 25kV capability...
I thought the E402's had their 25kV pantographs removed? Or was that only E403? Are those locomotives today still seen as multisystem in practice (capable of running on 25kV without adjustments)? They seem to be used as DC's AFAIK.
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I thought the E402's had their 25kV pantographs removed? Or was that only E403? Are those locomotives today still seen as multisystem in practice (capable of running on 25kV without adjustments)? They seem to be used as DC's AFAIK.
Yes, that were the E403's which were transferred to IC & Night train services (and some repainted in IC Sun livery).

The E402B that were adapted for operation in France (numbers 139-158) had 3 pantographs: 1 for French 1.5kV, 1 for French 25kV and 1 for Italian 3kV.
Pictures of the raised French 25kV pantograph here:
http://www.forum-duegieditrice.com/v...p?f=16&t=63068

The 2 pantographs for the French systems were removed from 2010 onwards after the fitting of SCMT (interim system between RS Codici and ETCS L1) to these locos, which needed a new homologation for the French network.

Still, the E402B should be able to run under 25kV with its current pantographs (in Italy at least). Possibly another contact strip (wider or different material) may have to be fitted for operation in other countries.
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