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Old December 3rd, 2011, 11:14 AM   #1
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Vidarbha pros and cons

Hi People, long time the many people have talked about having separate Vidarbha state. Also people have made remarks the reason for backwardness of the area is because of certain partisan attitude. Lets we over selves identify and discuss whether this is really meaningful.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 04:17 PM   #2
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Separate Vidarbha state

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Hi People, long time the many people have talked about having separate Vidarbha state. Also people have made remarks the reason for backwardness of the area is because of certain partisan attitude. Lets we over selves identify and discuss whether this is really meaningful.
Separate state of Vidarbha has been discussed many times on several threads. What one can see is indeed, the governments (any) in power did not do enough to develop this region (the natural resources of this region is exploited, the benefits of it did not go the local populace).

This has happened due to very weak, greedy short vision politicians from Vidarbha. It looks like, the so called marathi (Maharashtrian) populace of Vidarbha do not belong here.....populace of Vidarbha are different from rest of the Maharashtra, in culture, language, thinking, civic, business and these two major groups never mixed (melting pot) together well.

These so called Maharashtrians living in Vidarbha have nothing to do with it, they eventually settle down some where in Western Maharashtra (Pune being the favorite destination). Vidarbha populace failed to rise up against these so called Maharashtrians.

Look at the current and past politicians of Vidarbha. To secure there seat they have compromised the total / overall development of this region. In turn they received Engineering / Dental /Medial colleges, this shut their mouth, forever. The overall development of the region never occurred.

Those who were capable, were not interested to stay where they belong to. There are number of examples where CMs are from Vidarbha region, but once they went to Mumbai, they have forgotten their own region.

It is pathetic to see the suffering of local populace because of lack of irrigation water, proper irrigation system, lack of safe drinking water, lack of electricity etc etc, even though all these fundamental needs are made and are readily available. It is pathetic to see that the electricity generated in Chandrapur super thermal power station is shipped to Mumbai with 12-18 hours of load shading forced in this region. It is pathetic to see farms in Vidarbha still rely on monsoon showers, though there is water in the dams (which is used by Thermal power stations).

Both, the people of Vidarbha and the politicians (the Government) are to blame for this sorry state of the region.

Neither the populace nor the politicians (the Govt) really want to do anything
which will help develop this region. Just look at the Mihan saga....tis a shame.

Will separate Vidarbha help develop the region?

To answer this question, one needs to think whether there exist a capable leadership in the region who can dedicate time, efforts towards development.
If there is no one, then even separate Vidarbha will not help....it may turn into a state like Bihar.

More thoughts?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 09:27 PM   #3
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Will separate Vidarbha help develop the region?

To answer this question, one needs to think whether there exist a capable leadership in the region who can dedicate time, efforts towards development.
If there is no one, then even separate Vidarbha will not help....it may turn into a state like Bihar.

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whatever leadership exists will be sufficient since they won't have to fight with other politicians in same govt to bring development to this region.. weak leadership is an issue when vidarbha is in maharashtra but not when it is a separate state, in my opinion.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 11:51 PM   #4
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Lets avoid jingoism and see the potential

Vidarbha holds two-thirds of Maharashtra's mineral resources, three quarters of its forest resources, and is a net producer of power. Throughout its history, Vidarbha has remained much calmer during the communal troubles than the rest of India; but it is plagued very much by poverty and malnutrition. It is less economically prosperous compared to the rest of Maharashtra. (Refer Wikipedia)

Who is to blame for such ineptitude. Naturally the region bestowed with so much resources like:
Power
Qualified human resources.
Abundance of undeveloped land mass.
Technically we have an assembly session in Nagpur, so administratively not so far off. Etc.

Each time we talk about vidarbha the discussion reached to the failure of politicians. But what we vidarbhites can do????
This is something interesting to think...
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Yes there is a lot of potential. If Chattisgarh can work, Vidarbha will work better! We have better education infrastructure. And not to forget our forests - wildlife tourism is the industry to look forward to. More that required power (to separate Vidharbha state) is already being produced here.
Also, the farmer-suicide crisis that Vidarbha is facing now will be addressed more efficiently.
what are the cons, btw?
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Old December 4th, 2011, 08:40 AM   #6
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I fully support the separation of Vidarbha from Maharashtra for the better of the region, but I don't think it will happen for a while.

But anyway some info for those who don't know -

Population: 23,003,179 (18th most populous if it were a state)

Pop. Density: 236 /km2 (611 /sq mi)

Area: 97,321 sq km (37,576 sq mi) (12th largest if it were a state)

Largest City: Nagpur | population - 4,653,171

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Old December 4th, 2011, 09:24 AM   #7
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Cons but i say challeges

Since long the economy of vidarbha revolved around agriculture. The main agriculture comprises of Cotton and orange. The squeezing of MSP and the rise of cost in agriculture production has drained the cash from the people of region.
To bring justice to the agriculture production and revive crippling economy certain polices like levying higher import duty on cotton etc has to be formulated.

Also the investment required for the major upliftment (irrigation, writing off old debts and funding major projects)requires funds to the tune of thousands of crores moreover certain radical change in national policy.
These im anticipating would be very hard to come by to a state of vidarbha. If at all it is made it would still be a bankcrupt state. Because the cash and the tax generation regions like mumbai pune etc would not be supporting any more.
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Thanks to "Vidarbha" for starting this thread. One can see a great response and interest in having a separate state of Vidarbha.

There is no doubt small states work more efficiently, as mentioned in this thread of Chhattisgadh, also there are many small states in different parts of the world, take example of the USA. There is no doubt about it.

And sure, administratively there is little doubt that Nagpur (the capital of Vidarbha) cannot handle the parliament sessions, they have been doing this for decades.

All what is needed is people's mandate which eventually influences Delhi Govt to make the change. To start with, center should ensure proper transfer of money from the parent (the amount for the current backlog), this amount itself runs into lakhs of corods (billions ??) of INR. It will be center's decision where to this money from. May be Govt in Mumbai has some share in this amount, center has to ensure this.

With Telangana issue on the table, center should come up with small state policy to deal with such situations. Latest on the row is splitting UP in four states.

Center should think splitting Maharashtra on the same lines if they are serious. I heard Maratwada and Kokan are also in the same boat as of Vidarbha.

If such a policy is put into effect, Vidarbha (keep aside the rest) will surely see a light of independence.

But are all the Vidarbhaites ready for this change? I am sure the so called Maharashtrians will vote against this.
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Old December 4th, 2011, 04:49 PM   #9
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Each time we talk about vidarbha the discussion reached to the failure of politicians. But what we vidarbhites can do????
This is something interesting to think...
Good point. What can Vidarbhaites do? On a micro scale, what we can do here on this thread? Can we come up with a plan to start this movement (or whatever we want to call it)? This can eventually help the things on a larger scale?

Thoughts / ideas ??
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Old December 4th, 2011, 06:44 PM   #10
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There should be a six lane expressway connecting Nagpur to Mumbai, Pune, Nashik, Western Maharashtra. That could attract industry to Nagpur region. I have no hopes from Indian Railways for faster trains.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 01:16 PM   #11
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Something is funny im not able to make a post...
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Something is funny im not able to make a post...
You just posted a message.
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Old December 8th, 2011, 09:26 AM   #13
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What do they speak in Vidarbha?
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What do they speak in Vidarbha?
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Language of Vidarbha

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Varhadi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varhadi_language
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What do they speak in Vidarbha?
Varhadi. Here is the wiki link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varhadi_language
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Varhadi language

Do not want to stretch this language thread too much, but would like to mention the following.

"marathi movie mala aai vhhaychy! " is believed to be in this language. also the film maker/producer belongs to the same region.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyLpo4mJWjk

Some one was surely interested in this movie.

Obama watches Mala Aai Vhhaychy
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Still the question remains [ which were already raised in this thread ]

For a state / province to function, it needs income / revenue
For state like Vidarbha, it can generate revenue from agriculture, industries and many more

1) Can it provide seeds/furtilizer/money/power and water to farmers to produce goood quality agro products at a reasonable price?

2) Can it provide electricity / human resource and better policies and governance to become a successful industrial state?

3) Any other mode of income / revenue ????? Ahhh....Tourism ???

Thoughts / Comments ????
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