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Old March 13th, 2007, 06:12 AM   #101
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You can get some Energie stuff in some places in Melbourne....really miss energie shops!!!! Any Inditex store would be welcome, but I agree that Massimo Dutti would fill a hole in the menswear market here in Oz. I literally had to bring back a suitcase full of Inditex clothes from Europe because family, friends and friends of family had asked me to buy all this stuff. Mango has arrived from Barcelona so hopefully some other stores won't be far behind.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 06:21 AM   #102
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but with the response Stella McCartney has received today, I think it's obvious that almost any big name overseas label opening a Sydney/Melbourne store would rake it in. H&M, Topman, M&S, Energie and Zara NOW!
Absolutely. I don't know if anyone looked at the H&M site that was posted earlier, we haven't even got H&M yet and they have already launched another brand called COS www.cosstores.com.

In regards to the story about Myer and Zara, I have found an article.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/busine...143908971.html

Myer-Lew feud flares again over Zara label

Retail magnate Solomon Lew is on a collision course — again — with the Myer management over the arrival of top Spanish fashion label Zara on the shelves of its department stores.

The rag trade battle centres on the department store's recent move to circumvent a long-standing joint venture between Mr Lew and the Zara fashion label, by importing left-over merchandise.

All 61 Myer shops began stocking Zara products last week.

This is the first time shoppers in Australia have been able to buy the brand as the Lew-Zara joint venture has not opened any shops.

On another front, Mr Lew is looking to bolster his stable of retail brands with the purchase of the ultra-cool Sass & Bide fashion label.

The deal, valued at between $5 million and $10 million, is believed to be close to completion and, if successful, will prove another cog in Mr Lew's expanding retail empire.

The feuding between the Lew and Coles Myer empires dates back to Mr Lew being ousted from the retailer's board in late 2002 after a bitter boardroom battle. He had been on the Coles Myer board for 17 years, including four years as chairman.

He has since been a thorn in the side of Coles Myer chief executive John Fletcher's management team through his 5.9 per cent investment in the retailer, which is now worth close to $700 million.

Mr Lew has long been rumoured to want to acquire the troubled Myer department stores, which in recent years have caused several financial headaches for the parent Coles Myer.

A director at the Australian Centre for Retail Studies, Lenore Harris, said Myer's approach was ill thought out and that bringing in such poor-quality Zara stock could undermine the brand.

"It will damage the brand," she said. "Zara has such a good reputation for cutting-edge design and the way this has been done by Myer makes it a lost opportunity for Zara. The products available are mixed and matched and it is confusingly laid out in-store."

A spokesman for Myer said the deal with Palm Tree — an official Zara agent — would allow customers to get four seasonal selections of overrun or unsold Zara merchandise.

"We are working with the agent to improve the stock," he said. "This is just the first shipment from the first batch and more will be coming in over the next few weeks," he said.

A spokesman for Zara's publicly listed parent group, Inditex, confirmed that the fashion label had a joint venture with International Brand Management, the company of Mr Lew's son Peter.

"We have a joint venture with Solomon Lew's family for the Australian market, but as yet no confirmed plans to open a store," he said.

Inditex is believed to be closely monitoring any potential long-term damage to its brand that could be caused by Myer stocking last season's unsold produce.

Zara is one of Europe's fastest-growing retailers, with 758 stores in 55 countries.

The Lew empire has been bolstered in recent weeks by his purchase of a 17.8 per cent share in Just Group. He has also reportedly acquired a 4 per cent stake in David Jones, on top of a long-held 29 per cent holding in Housewares International and 11.8 per cent of Country Road.

He also has the Australian licences for French Connection, Witchery and Nine West.

A Lew spokesman said the organisation never commented publicly on anything in relation to the Zara brand.
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a little birdie told me MYER is doing badly and DAVID JONES is taking over many of its stores - 2 weeks later BURWOOD MYER has its massive closing down sale... DAVID JONES will now occupy the space. Also other MYER stores are closing, i dont have locations as yet but MYER Burwood has a MASSIVE 75% off already reduced stock!!!
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That is old news.

When Myer was sold by Coles Myer they had to renegotiate their leases with Westfield. Westfield used this as the opportunity to get DJs into two centres (Chermside and Doncaster) where previously the lease with Myer had prevented bringing in a second department store, and to boot Myer out of their Burwood centre in favour of DJs. This has nothing to do with Myer not doing well at the moment (although that may well be true), it just all is a trickle down effect from the sale of Myer last year.

At this stage DJs isn't taking over any other Myer stores.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 06:51 AM   #105
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Also what is happening witn Coles. I read in the papers that they were failing miserably and could not compete with Woolworths and there was talks of Walmart and Tescos and other overseas chains buying them and maybe even opening up another large third retailer to help competition. I say third as in Woolies, Coles and a new chain, even though we have IGA, Bi-lo, Aldi's etc that dont have a great market share.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 07:08 AM   #106
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I can't ever see a large third player in the Australian Market, the market is just sown up by Coles and Woolworths as it is. If you think about what would be required to enter the Australian Market place it would be massive. New Stores (where would they get permission), distribution centres, Head Office etc.

If say Wal-Mart was to enter the market they would buy someone out like they did with ASDA in the UK. Of course that was has been mooted already.

Isn't IGA a collection of independant individual stores (similar to the 'Happy Shopper' chain).
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Old March 13th, 2007, 07:21 AM   #107
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Bi-lo is owned by Coles and most stores will eventually be rebranded as Coles because they have higher profit margins.

IGA is Metcash which has about 17-20% of market share. Metcash owns the IGA brand but is a distribution and marketing company. IGA is more like a franchise system, while Coles and Woolworths are company owned.

Woolworths has about 40% and Coles has 35%.

I think Aldi has like 2 or 3%?
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I can't ever see a large third player in the Australian Market, the market is just sown up by Coles and Woolworths as it is. If you think about what would be required to enter the Australian Market place it would be massive. New Stores (where would they get permission), distribution centres, Head Office etc.

If say Wal-Mart was to enter the market they would buy someone out like they did with ASDA in the UK. Of course that was has been mooted already.

Isn't IGA a collection of independant individual stores (similar to the 'Happy Shopper' chain).
Sorry I meant that Coles are losing money and cannot compete and are looking at being bought out, Tesco, Sainsbury, Walmart and Karsdat were all mentioned and they thought if this happens a third MAY come along, which I think it does need.
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I can't ever see a large third player in the Australian Market, the market is just sown up by Coles and Woolworths as it is. If you think about what would be required to enter the Australian Market place it would be massive. New Stores (where would they get permission), distribution centres, Head Office etc.

If say Wal-Mart was to enter the market they would buy someone out like they did with ASDA in the UK. Of course that was has been mooted already.

Isn't IGA a collection of independant individual stores (similar to the 'Happy Shopper' chain).
Sorry I meant that Coles are losing money and cannot compete and are looking at being bought out, Tesco, Sainsbury, Walmart and Karsdat were all mentioned and they thought if this happens a third MAY come along, which I think it does need. So maybe Coles could be rebranded or at least some of their stores in a Tesco, for example.
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Ya I'd love some Tesco or Walmart stores.
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I seriously wouldn't want Walmart here at all.
Coles aren't necessarily losing money, it's not as profitable. It's not making as much profit as it used to be.
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Old March 14th, 2007, 02:14 AM   #112
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Walmart would be very bad in many ways. Lower prices paid to farmers, lower staff wages and the forcing out of competition amongst other reasons.
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Old March 14th, 2007, 03:53 AM   #113
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Sorry I meant that Coles are losing money and cannot compete and are looking at being bought out, Tesco, Sainsbury, Walmart and Karsdat were all mentioned and they thought if this happens a third MAY come along, which I think it does need. So maybe Coles could be rebranded or at least some of their stores in a Tesco, for example.
Coles is not loosing money and are still making a profit. The current troubles stem from the fact that last year they were the target of 18.2 billion takeover attempt from a consortium led by US private equity giant Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR).

Coles rejected this offer and predicted a growth forcast of 25% or 30%, but instead they only managed 2%. Now this is where the trouble lays, as this lack of growth has effected their shareprice. Specially considering they lost most of this growth to Woolworth's in the supermarket industry who already have a commanding lead over Coles.

So currently everyone is wondering what Coles will with themselves as they clearly don't have the right internal infrastructure in place. Hence some are suggesting they will sell themselves to an international consortium. Others think they will continue on restructuring while more thinking that they will sell or spin-off some of the companies such as Target or Office Works.

Coles today said that while 2006/07 earnings were expected to remain around its target of a $787 million net profit, the supermarket contribution would be lower than anticipated. - February 23, 2007
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Old March 14th, 2007, 05:50 AM   #114
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Walmart would be very bad in many ways. Lower prices paid to farmers, lower staff wages and the forcing out of competition amongst other reasons.
Not necessarily - the company is a behemoth but increasingly it is failing in growth rates and profitability to other stores in the US like Target, which have a more middle class clientele, trendier products and nicer store layouts (in the US).
Walmart has actually pulled out of operations in Germany & S Korea where it couldn't compete with existing low-cost operators like Aldi & Lidl or couldn't adapt to local tastes.

I'm all for healthy competition, rather than the current virtual duopoly we have in Oz. If you're worried about lower prices/costs paid to people, try the retail scene in N.Korea I guess its just a cause and effect of globalisation, which overall is a gain to all consumers. Even Woolies & Coles are going for the 'homebrand' expansion which causes losses to some existing brands (and gains to other producers)
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A List of countries where M&S currently have store located. These are currently franchise stores located in the following locations (taken from Wikipedia).

Bahrain, Bermuda, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Gibraltar, Greece,
Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Kuwait, Latvia, Malaysia, Malta, Oman, Philippines, Poland, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, United Arab Emirates

M&S expanded into Canada in 1973, and at one point had 47 stores across Canada. Despite various efforts to improve its image, the chain was never able to move beyond its reputation in Canada as a stodgy retailer, one that catered primarily to senior citizens. The stores in Canada were smaller than British outlets, and did not carry the same selection. In the late 1990s, further efforts were made to modernize the stores and expand the customer base, and unprofitable locations were closed. Nonetheless, the Canadian operations continued to lose money, and the last 38 stores in Canada were closed in 1999.

The expansion into France began with stores opening in Paris at Boulevard Haussmann and Lyon in 1975, followed by a second Paris store at Rosny 2 in 1977. Further expansion into other French and Belgian cities followed into the 1980's. Although the Paris stores remained popular and profitable, the whole of the Western European operation did not fare as well and all the stores were closed in 2001. Branches remain in some European countries, such as the Czech Republic.

The first M&S store in central Asia was built in Kabul, Afghanistan in the 1960s. The store was later shut down.

In February 2007, Marks & Spencer announced the opening of the world’s largest Marks & Spencer store outside the UK at Dubai Festival City.
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I'd like to see Tesco's have a crack at Australia. They have a brilliant array of high quality own-brand products, and to the best of my knowledge they usually try source ingredients and products locally (I have been to stores in loads of countries and most products seemed to be locally sourced). Not sure if they'd bother here though, they have such massive market share in the UK, they might not seem interested in Australia if there are stringent regulations (1 in every 8 pounds spent in the UK is spent at a Tesco's, apparently).

And Walmart would be terrible. We don't need them anyways, we've got Big W, Target and Harvey Norman, that's more than enough.
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Aldi is doing quite well in Australia and already has more than 100 stores. An amusing line in the AFR that stated Aldi specified their massive distribution centre in Melbourne was to have a roof capable of withstanding 6 metres of snow...

... does Aldi know something about climate change we don't??

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Yes! And Energie/Miss Sixtytoo. The only designer store of note I can think of in Sydney is Diesel, and the store is shite. They may be Euro-centric, but with the response Stella McCartney has received today, I think it's obvious that almost any big name overseas label opening a Sydney/Melbourne store would rake it in. H&M, Topman, M&S, Energie and Zara NOW!
There is a Miss Sixty store in Melbourne.
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Almost all the products in Aldi stores are exclusive to Aldi. They really have unique products you can never find anywhere else. I think that's the secret of their success.
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i thought aldi's secret was its limited range of stock and that they tend not to shelf their products so they don't have to employ many packers to unpack the stuff. i thought it was about simplicity, hence keeping costs down.
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That's one of their strategies but that alone isn't enough to compete against the giants. I think people go there to find things you can't find in other supermarkets. Aldi's nappy is the best quality among all the brands available in Australia according to my sister...
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