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Old February 8th, 2007, 10:48 PM   #41
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you better be right, because we have enough of this crap. In twenty years it will look like this

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Old February 9th, 2007, 12:35 AM   #42
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you better be right, because we have enough of this crap. In twenty years it will look like this

wow, tato architektura by mala mat svoje miesto v historii, sice vobec neriesi otazku estetiky-ale to sa mi na nej prave paci, je to len par desiatok rokov dozadu ale uplne ine zmyslanie...mne by sa mozno aj pacilo keby vychadzala ta 170metrova budova z "panelakovej" architektury,

ale aj tak nebude vyzerat ako panelak-tym som si isty,ta vizualizacia trocha metie
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Old February 9th, 2007, 10:39 AM   #43
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Toto je len prvý návrh, kým sa to postaví, bude to možno vyzerať úplne inak. Uvidíme.
za tych 19 miliard to uz mohol navrhnut aj Foster
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Old February 9th, 2007, 03:04 PM   #44
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To je problém slovenských developerov. V prvom rade im behajú po mysli len metre štvorcové a ich cena, na architektúru, či nebodaj na nejaký prínos okoliu sa pozerajú len minimálne, alebo keď ich k tomu niekto donúti.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 05:21 PM   #45
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To je problém slovenských developerov. V prvom rade im behajú po mysli len metre štvorcové a ich cena, na architektúru, či nebodaj na nejaký prínos okoliu sa pozerajú len minimálne, alebo keď ich k tomu niekto donúti.
A to je problem Slovakov (Bratislavcanov). Vsetci vedia furt len pindat na developerov, bez ktorych by sme boli v roku 1991.
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Old February 10th, 2007, 07:19 AM   #46
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A to je problem Slovakov (Bratislavcanov). Vsetci vedia furt len pindat na developerov, bez ktorych by sme boli v roku 1991.
no nastastie nie vsetkych aj ked s tebou suhlasim.... podla niektorych asi lepsie nic... keby bolo na nich, tak este ani zeleznice nemame.... aj ked konstruktivna kritika sa vzdy zide
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Old February 10th, 2007, 02:43 PM   #47
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Bratislava prešla od pádu režimu veľký kus cesty, ale je to skôr cesta zväčšovania plochy kancelárskych priestorov, nákupných centier a drahých obytných objektov. Postavilo sa tu veľa architektonicky kvalitných budov, no ešte viac architektonického odpadu. To je nepopierateľný fakt. V dnešnej dobe nie je vhodné stavať bez ohľadu na susedné stavby a na výzor samotnej budovy. Môžme mať milióny metrov štvorcových kancelárií a podobne, ale čo z toho, keď sa na ne nebude dať pozerať. Ekonómia by si mala viac uvedomovať, že cena za meter štvorcový nezávisí len od kvality priestorov, ale aj od takých vecí, ako je fasáda budovy, jej umiestnenie, zaujímavé architektonické riešenia, atď.
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Myslim, ze developeri sa chovaju tak ekonomicky ako sa len da, takze sa vonkoncom neobavam ze by zabudali na napr. vzhlad budovy, ako naznacujes.
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Old February 10th, 2007, 04:45 PM   #49
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Skúsim to na príklade. Aupark tower je vzhľadom pekná budova, dokonca sa mi páči, len mi na nej vadí jej umiestnenie. Nehovorím, že všetko je škaredé, no osobne sa mi aspoň podľa prvých vizualizácií nepáči napr. Lipový park, iné budovy zase nie sú škaredé, len sú akoby bez nápadu, napr. Millenium tower III, Lakeside park atď. Myslím si, že až budúcnosť ukáže, ktoré stavby sú naozaj kvalitné a ktoré sú len do počtu.

PS: Nezabúdaj, že sme na Slovensku, nech by tu developer postavil hocijako škaredý bytový dom, všetky byty v ňom budú predané skôr, než začnú stavať posledné poschodie. V tomto sme ešte nedospeli na úroveň Západnej Európy.
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Osobne by mi bolo jedno keby si developer postavil nejaku neosobnú, priemernú kocku niekde na kraji mesta alebo uprostred panelákov, prípadne na Prievozskej. Mrakodrap Twin City ale bude jednou z dominánt mesta a preto dúfam že prezentované riešenie nie je definitívne. V podobnej situácii ako Bratislava je momentálne napríklad Sevilla, tam sa má postaviť zhruba 200m mrakodrap a naštastie vzíde z architektonickej súťaže (vo finále je Architektonica a Caesar Pelli a obidva návrhy sú viac než k svetu ...). Mimochodom...rád vedel kto je architektom TC
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Old February 13th, 2007, 02:47 PM   #51
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Trafil si kliniec po hlavičke. Myslím, že developer by sa mal pri stavbe takejto dominanty obrátiť apoň k odbornej verejnosti a zapracovať do svojho projektu ich pripomienky. Ešte lepšie by však bolo, keby si prizval nejakých renomovaných architektov, za tých 17 miliárd si to hádam môže dovoliť.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 09:47 AM   #52
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To je problém slovenských developerov. V prvom rade im behajú po mysli len metre štvorcové a ich cena, na architektúru, či nebodaj na nejaký prínos okoliu sa pozerajú len minimálne, alebo keď ich k tomu niekto donúti.
Since demand is (much) higher than supply, they do what earns them highest profit.
It's expected that in 2008-2009 demand for office space in Bratislava should equal supply so developers will have to do more to attract buyers to sell their projects.
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Old April 15th, 2007, 01:20 PM   #54
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awesome project! good for Bratislava ! one of my favourite european cities
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Old April 15th, 2007, 04:34 PM   #55
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Since demand is (much) higher than supply, they do what earns them highest profit.
It's expected that in 2008-2009 demand for office space in Bratislava should equal supply so developers will have to do more to attract buyers to sell their projects.
I'm not sure it will be in 2008-2009 but I hope it will improve the architecture of the new office buildings. On the other hand, when the supply will be lower than demand the developers can also build even worse buildings to attract the customers with lower prise. We will see...
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I'm not sure it will be in 2008-2009 but I hope it will improve the architecture of the new office buildings. On the other hand, when the supply will be lower than demand the developers can also build even worse buildings to attract the customers with lower prise. We will see...
No, that's not how it works. And I was talking about A-class office space obviously.

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I hope it's not how it works and I think almost every new office in Bratislava is A class.
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I hope it's not how it works and I think almost every new office in Bratislava is A class.
regarding the pricing I am also interested how the exchange rate will influence new projects?
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Stronger Koruna can make prices lower because especialy companies can afford more things in foreign countries so for them is investing to the real estate in Slovakia less profitable. Although, remember Slovakia will very probably adopt Euro in 2009 and then we could expect quite big inflation. The best thing you can do to protect your money is investing them to the realty so prices of real estates will be growing in the near future.

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Stronger Koruna can make prices lower because especialy companies can afford more things in foreign countries so for them is investing to the real estate in Slovakia less rentabile. Although, remember Slovakia will very probably adopt Euro in 2009 and then we could expect quite big inflation. The best thing you can do to protect your money is investing them to the realty so prices of real estates will be growing in the near future.
1. Investor's believe of continuous and unlimited realty price growth is a common mistake.
2. Declared sell price (bid) ain't definitely sell price for real. It's only "market measure" of unrealized (wannabe) profit. Market self is not about current status, it's about further predictions. They may change.. especially at small (and volatile) regions...
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