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Old March 21st, 2008, 11:22 PM   #41
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has already started with the construction of the complex which includes offices, apartments, hotels and shopping malls. The complex, planned to be finished in 5 to 6 years
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Old March 21st, 2008, 11:29 PM   #42
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Frankly if i were on raiffesein banks place i would never finance such a project,in an political unstable region,with high unemploymant and almost no economy,they have to be crazy,that investment is just too risky
obviously they thought it's not too much of a risky investment or was your bigotry talking for you? thanks for the comments either way mr. donald trump.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 11:33 PM   #43
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Because nobody gave a flying f** about Bulgaria. Kosova is considered as the west's "baby" and they'll do anything they can to make it work.



and thats the reason you are not their financial advisor. There are 17000 NATO troops in Kosova. There is a huge military base called Boondsteel and nobody can do anything to Kosova. The Serbs aren't that stupid to try that.
Sorry man, but what are you talking about? The reason Bulgaria didn't experience an investement boom after the fall of communism had to do with the fact that there were many other Eastern European countries "introduced" to the world. It had nothing to do with the West not giving a **** about Bulgaria or giving a **** about Kosovo. Raiffasen is a private company. It will continue investing in Kosovo if it thinks will make money, not if Kosovo is the darling of the West or not. Going back to Bulgaria in 89, there were other Eastern European countries which were in a better position and which provided the same level of rerturn. Places like Hungary and Czech Republic come to mind. I visited both Bulgaria and Hungary in 1990 and the differences between the two were visible even to a 7 yr old child. That's the reason why Bulgaria didn't experience a investment boom right away and Kosovo might today.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:10 AM   #45
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What am I taking about? I'm talking about the fact that the US and EU are working to help Kosova and it's economy get on its feet, due to the fact that they were the main "sponsors" of Kosova's independence. The fact that there is a huge NATO presence in the areas also helps alot assuring foreign investors that their investment will be safe. If you think that this is not one of the main reasons that foreign investors are investing in Kosova then you're delusional. It is true that nobody cared about Bulgaria and the rest of Eastern Europe. The economic systems changed and everyone knew the transition would not be easy. However in Kosova things are different. They've laid a foundation in the last 9 years which will help things move faster, much faster than the ex-communist countries of EE in 1990s.

Ajo pergjigja qe ti citove ishte drejtuar atij qe une e citova sepse u duk qellimi i tij me ate koment qe beri(sic e tha edhe Dardani) , dhe une ja ktheva ne menyren e duhur. Heres tjeter behu pak me i kapshem edhe mos i fut hundet do kudo si femi i vogel.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:25 AM   #46
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So you think of the EU and the USA as some kind of babysitters? Oh God, I think this delusion will soon come to a bitter end. It's very simple, if you don't help yourself, noone will do it for you. There was this common misbelief that somehow, mysteriously, the West would solve all our problems itself just because we moved out of the socialist block and this happened in all EE countries, unfortunately we as well as the Romanians were some years late to understand it.

Anyway, that's a long story. I'm just stunned by the fact that someone may fall into thinking the same stupid shit nowadays. As if there were not enough bad examples to take into consideration.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:34 AM   #47
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So you think of the EU and the USA as some kind of babysitters? Oh God, I think this delusion will soon come to a bitter end. It's very simple, if you don't help yourself, noone will do it for you. There was this common misbelief that somehow, mysteriously, the West would solve all our problems itself just because we moved out of the socialist block and this happened in all EE countries, unfortunately we as well as the Romanians were some years late to understand it.

Anyway, that's a long story. I'm just stunned by the fact that someone may fall into thinking the same stupid shit nowadays. As if there were not enough bad examples to take into consideration.
There's nothing to be delusional about. I never said they were going to solve our problems. Learn to read before opening your mouth.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:36 AM   #48
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I don't get why Kosovo should be underestimated. I've read that the land there is rich of valuable raw materials. Greece are now trying to bribe EU to use the 30 years concession over some coal mines signed with Milosevic years ago in exchange of Kosovo's recognition .... I think if kosovars use wisely the treasures their land keeps they have bright future.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:38 AM   #49
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In fact I opened my mouth just to gulp some beer while writing the post

But you wrote that:
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I'm talking about the fact that the US and EU are working to help Kosova and it's economy get on its feet
...and that sounds weird

Hey, I'm not gonna spoil that idilic mindset anymore though Enough said (ops...written)
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:56 AM   #50
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What's soo wierd about that? Aren't a couple billions of euros considered "help"?
Of course it is considered "help". It just depends by whom - the political/business 'elite', by some foreign consultants working on some project, by the banks that make opportunist contracts or finally the people of Kosovo. Don't get me wrong - I'm not at all one of those anti-Kosovo pro-Serbian haters. In fact I support independant Kosovo and I hope it will eventually become a prospering country. However I don't like the opportunity of having Kosovo the economic blackhole of the world. And that "they_are_obliged_to_help" attitude is really frightening to me.

Instead of this "they_are_going_to_give_us_blalbla_money_to_help" I'd prefer some news about future economic plans, concrete measures to battle corruption and unemployment, some ideas to gain foreign investments (like tax policies, etc).

Most countries in Africa rely on foreign help since decades BTW. Don't you think they deserve it more than Kosovo? You don't have 30% HIV-positive population, starving to death.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 12:58 AM   #51
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bgrs, did you had the chance to watch "Corridor #8" movie last week on SFF ? It was quite educatuonal about those parts of the Balkans.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 03:54 AM   #52
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has already started with the construction of the complex which includes offices, apartments, hotels and shopping malls. The complex, planned to be finished in 5 to 6 years
5 -6 years is an awful lot of time... but if you look at the only render we have currently, you will see that it is not just a tall skyscraper... the project has another separate tower too (although lower than the main one), plus some other lowrise buildings, probably from 5 to over 10 floors.. My guess would be it will be built in different phases to ensure profits and reduce the risks..


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Old March 22nd, 2008, 04:11 AM   #53
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Even though I believe that this project will not be realized (not saying that in later years Prishtina will not have other such great projects, but for this project I simply think it is speculation)...I would love to see Kosovo/a go forward...whether as an independent state or Serbian province...we finally have to have strong states in the Balkans that fight each other on the basis of economical growth and popular wellness, and not over churches and mosques

Congratulations for the boost of good news about large projects that Prishtina has seen in the last month, hopefully all of them will be realized...if not, the future is in front of us
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 04:19 AM   #54
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Here is the article from the austrian "Wirtschafts Blatt" in german, a newspaper about business & investments:


Raiffeisen bei 250-Mio.-€-Projekt in Pristina dabei



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Pristina. Nur 50 Kilometer südlich der Krisenregion rund um Mitro vica im Norden Kosovos, nämlich in der Hauptstadt Pristina, wird bereits heftig investiert: Die kosovarische Firma ENK Invest Group, im Eigentum von fünf lokalen Unternehmern, plant einen Büro-, EKZ- und Wohnkomplex im Zentrum von Pristina um stolze 250 Millionen€ zu bauen. Auf einem 26.000 Quadratmeter großen Grundstück soll insgesamt 285.000 Bruttonutzfläche entstehen - geplant sind Bürotürme, Einkaufscenter, Wohnungen, ein Hotel und Garagen.

Nach Angaben von ENK-Miteigentümer Edmond Krliu wird bei dem Projekt die Raiffeisenbank die Hauptkreditgeberin sein. Auf WirtschaftsBlatt-Anfrage wollte Krliu die Kredithöhe aber nicht näher beziffern, für das Projekt werden aber noch Co-Investoren gesucht, so Krliu. Auch Raiffeisen Kosovo-Chef Oliver J. Whittle wollte "über Kundenbeziehungen" nicht mit Medien sprechen.

Umtriebiger Investor

Gerüchteweise soll Raiffeisen selbst eines der zu bauenden Gebäude beziehen, nämlich ein 5400 Quadratmeter grosses Bürohaus. Krliu: "Wir haben darüber mit Raiffeisen gesprochen, aber noch ist nichts fix." Die Bauarbeiten haben begonnen, der gesamte Komplex soll in fünf bis sechs Jahren fertig sein, sagt Krliu. Das Gebäudekomplex soll das neue Wahrzeichen der Kosovo-Hauptstadt Pristina werden, die ja mit modernen Büros, Wohnungen und Hotels nicht gerade gesegnet ist.

Der in Mazedonien geborene Unternehmer ist in Österreich durchaus kein Unbekannter: Als sich die Telekom Austria Anfang 2007 um eine Mobilfunklizenz in der ehemaligen südserbischen Provinz bemühte, wurde sie vor Ort von Krliu vertreten. Krliu hat weiters Beteiligungen an einer Handvoll Firmen vor Ort, darunter im Bereich Medikamente-Einkauf und Polyethylen-Verarbeitung. Die ENK Invest Group hat fünf Aktionäre, außer Krliu sind das vier aus Albanien stammende Unternehmer.

Raiffeisen war im Kosovo ein "Early Mover": Die Bank wurde im November 2001 zunächst als American Bank of Kosovo gegründet, seit 2003 gehört sie zur Gänze dem Raiffeisen-Konzern. Heute ist die Bank die zweitgrößte Kommerzbank in dem seit Kurzem von Serbien abgespaltenen Land, das rund zwei Millionen Einwohner zählt.

http://www.wirtschaftsblatt.at/archiv/319205/index.do

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Old March 22nd, 2008, 04:30 AM   #55
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Frankly if i were on raiffesein banks place i would never finance such a project,in an political unstable region,with high unemploymant and almost no economy,they have to be crazy,that investment is just too risky
I was just there two weeks ago. Aside from the unrest in Mitrovica, you wouldnt even know you are in Kosovo if you are a westerner. It was completely safe in the rest of Kosovo.
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you wouldnt even know you are in Kosovo
and how would you know that you are in Kosovo?
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and how would you know that you are in Kosovo?
lol

well what i meant is that, for example i live in Canada, and the media here is just like in the US. They dramatize things. For example during the first week of independence, there would be headlines such as "Kosovo Chaos" and what not. People get the wrong idea when they see such headlines. But if you were to read that news and then actually go to Kosovo, you are in disbelief, because everything is quiet normal. Aside from that, there are coutnless indicators that yes, you indeed ARE in Kosovo.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 09:21 AM   #59
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go prishtinaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Even though I believe that this project will not be realized (not saying that in later years Prishtina will not have other such great projects, but for this project I simply think it is speculation)...I would love to see Kosovo/a go forward...whether as an independent state or Serbian province...we finally have to have strong states in the Balkans that fight each other on the basis of economical growth and popular wellness, and not over churches and mosques

Congratulations for the boost of good news about large projects that Prishtina has seen in the last month, hopefully all of them will be realized...if not, the future is in front of us

Both articles say the construction have started yet you state doubt this would be realized, do you even read the article itself or just the headline and rely on your instinct since its location is Kosova it can't happen? Plz enlighten me why it is a "speculation".
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