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Old November 26th, 2008, 10:20 PM   #121
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Tak neviem co si o tom mam mysliet...
...asi to s tou izbou bez okien myslia vazne...kks...

Ako je mozne, ze z tohto tvojho postu zmizol floor-plan?
Zeby ho Jarabiny stiahli a architekt uz preraba dispozicie?
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Old November 26th, 2008, 11:27 PM   #122
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na piatom podlaží to je inak
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Old November 26th, 2008, 11:33 PM   #123
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Zvlastne, ze podorysy sa vratili.

Pavlacova chodba v lavo dole je tam na vsetkych podlaziach. Hrozne!
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Old November 26th, 2008, 11:39 PM   #124
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ale ta izba bez okien uz je prec. toto je amaterizmus uplne novej kategorie
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Old November 26th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #125
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Na vyssom obrazku je 8 poschodie a na nizsom piate.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #126
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aha, fakt. jedine piate ma tu izbu normalne.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 01:51 AM   #127
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Ako je mozne, ze z tohto tvojho postu zmizol floor-plan?
Zeby ho Jarabiny stiahli a architekt uz preraba dispozicie?
ten obrazok je hostovany na imageshack takze jarabiny nan nemaju dosah. asi im (imageshack) nesiel chvilku server.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 08:14 AM   #128
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Zvlastne, ze podorysy sa vratili.

Pavlacova chodba v lavo dole je tam na vsetkych podlaziach. Hrozne!
Ta pavlacova chodba je tipujem v mieste, kde je ten bodovy dom, alebo je to z hladiska odhlucnenia od cesty, orientacie bytu na svetove strany, ci napriklad nevzhladneho skladoveho a priemyselneho arealu priamo pod oknami.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 08:17 AM   #129
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A-ha, diky.
Uz som si myslela, ze Jarabiny si vstupili do svedomia.
A ludia budu vetrat izby do spolocnej chodby? Je to OK?
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Old November 27th, 2008, 08:45 AM   #130
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A-ha, diky.
Uz som si myslela, ze Jarabiny si vstupili do svedomia.
A ludia budu vetrat izby do spolocnej chodby? Je to OK?
vsak pavlacove bytove domy su uplna normalka. okna sa v tom pripade robia s parapetom vo vyske 1800 mm nad podlahou, alebo sa robia nepriehladne napriklad zo sklobetonu s vetrackou prave v tejto vyske.
Trochu si myslim, ze to nemusi byt na skodu, pavlacovou chodbou eliminujes priamy kontakt s hlucnou ulicou, je to aj akusticky predel, jedine vznika problem s priecnym prevetravanim bytu - ale to je aj pri chodbovych typoch bytovych domov (KR)
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Old November 27th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #131
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no ja neviem. snazil som sa v tom zorientovat (blok A3), a vychadza mi, ze tie pavlace su tu:



takze ziadna hlucna ulica
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Old November 27th, 2008, 09:19 AM   #132
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jj, je to tam, aj mne to tak vychadza.

podla mna je pavlac v 21. storoci jedine absolutna neschopnost architekta popasovat sa s priestorom, pripadne zufala snaha spravit fasadu niecim zaujimavou.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 09:31 AM   #133
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strummer a co sever? Tym padom im na tej fasade nevychadza svetlotechnika....

Last edited by zuzana; November 27th, 2008 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Jop, je to sever
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Old November 27th, 2008, 09:38 AM   #134
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jj, je to tam, aj mne to tak vychadza.

podla mna je pavlac v 21. storoci jedine absolutna neschopnost architekta popasovat sa s priestorom, pripadne zufala snaha spravit fasadu niecim zaujimavou.
Pavlac vobec nepatri do kategorie prezitych prostriedkov na riesenie fasady. Najma v pripadoch, ked sa jedna o takyto blok, pripadne ked je v susedstve dialnica (Hrachova), ked sa jedna o poziadavku co najviac malometraznych bytov pri co najmensom pocte schodisk a vytahov... Nehovorim, ze je to najuzasnejsie riesenie, ale je to prirodzene riesenie.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 09:39 AM   #135
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no a dalsim stupnom je chodbovy typ bytoveho domu, kde je vsak potreba orientacie hlavnych fasad vychod - zapad - aj to mate v tych jarabinach, v tom druhom ramene L.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 09:40 AM   #136
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strummer a co sever? Tym padom im na tej fasade nevychadza svetlotechnika....
hej, orientacia je zhruba na sever. ja sa v tychto technickych zalezitostiach nevyznam, takze co to znamena? ze tam museli dat pavlac, lebo by to inak nesplnalo svetlotechnicku normu?
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Old November 27th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #137
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hej, orientacia je zhruba na sever. ja sa v tychto technickych zalezitostiach nevyznam, takze co to znamena? ze tam museli dat pavlac, lebo by to inak nesplnalo svetlotechnicku normu?
Nie, pavlac je tam z toho dovodu, ze keby tam chceli riesit napriklad preplavajuce byty (take s oknami na dve fasady), muselo by tam byt este jedno schodisko, dom by sa zmenil z chodboveho na sekciovy, a naklady investora by boli vyssie (napriklad uz len dalsi vytah na rovnaky pocet bytov). preto su tie koncove byty na pavlaciach na obe strany fasady, tie medzi su dvojizbove.
Vsimni si napr. KR - chodbovy bytovy dom - Jedno unikove schodisko, dva vytahy, na poschodi 14 bytov, z toho 7 trojizbovych a 7 dvojizbovych. Princip je v podstate rovnaky ako pri pavlaci, akurat tu bola vyhodnejsia orientacia na svetove strany:

Keby to bolo otocene o 90 stupnov, polovica bytov by tam byt nemohla. Tym padom ti vznika pavlac...
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Old November 27th, 2008, 12:22 PM   #138
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Old November 27th, 2008, 12:40 PM   #139
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Old November 27th, 2008, 03:32 PM   #140
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No neviem, v pripade tohoto internatu sa jedna o Karloveske Rameno a neviem ako vy, ale ja si myslim ze to je jeden z tych lepsich projektov.

PS. nehante Zuzke jej byvanie, ja jej ho celkom zavidim
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