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Old September 2nd, 2006, 04:33 PM   #1
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Stoke-on-Trent - Regeneration?

I know it's hardly a powerhouse, but I've been wondering if anything will be developed here in the six towns. Stoke's formally tallest building Unity House was demolished recently and now the site stands empty - albeit with painted boards around it. I haven't seen any designs for it's replacement, although it's demolition is a step in the right direction, it being an eyesore.

I have however found what they're planning for the site:

"Developer St Modwen confirmed today that it wants to create space for up to five retail units or restaurants on the ground floor of a three-storey building proposed for the Unity House site in Hanley.

News of the new plans comes as St Modwen gears up to demolish the derelict Unity House building, at the junction of Potteries Way and Broad Street."
September 2002

Hopefully they wont go for something that small, and build something of equal height as Stoke residents don't seem to be as afraid of heights as in some cities, many people saying how Unity House used to be a landmark to tell them they're home.

There was a section in The Sentinel (local paper) on regeneration, although any pictures were small and the proposed developments looked a bit rubbish.

There are a number of good things going for Stoke, it's nightlife is pretty good and it's also not bad for music with enough gig spots to keep you satisfied. However the state of the architecture there is horrific. There's a number of sites that need demolishing, starting with the bus station and the former Hanley Shopping Centre (now superceded by the Potteries one).

So if anyone is from the area or with any news or interest in it, please post here. It's probably the worst city in the UK architecture-wise, but this could give Stoke a competely fresh start with a modern look (must be well designed though).

A few pictures of the buildings I listed above:

Unity House and it's Demolition:








These need to go:

Hanley Bus Station & Shopping Centre:






This could do with going too:

Parliament Row - the main shopping street:

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Old September 9th, 2006, 03:00 PM   #2
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The Unity House area of Hanley is to be developed along side the completion of the ring road so plans are on hold until Tesco ecide to start construction.
As for the bus station and old shopping precinct they have tentative plans for a new 3 storey shopping centre with an airport style bus station to be built underneath.This would be linked to the existing Potteries Centre by roofing Parliament Row from the Potteries Centre to the new Shopping centre by means of a glass roof providing sheltered shopping for nearly 50% of Hanley.
The Potteries Centre have purchase the now closed nightclub Jaxx and are looking into extending it northwards.The multi storey car park already has its foundations in place for any levels required.
Also in Hanley on the nortern side of the proposed completion of the ring road they have just passed planning permission for a hotel and casino.

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Old October 20th, 2006, 02:46 AM   #3
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The Unity House area of Hanley is to be developed along side the completion of the ring road so plans are on hold until Tesco ecide to start construction.
As for the bus station and old shopping precinct they have tentative plans for a new 3 storey shopping centre with an airport style bus station to be built underneath.This would be linked to the existing Potteries Centre by roofing Parliament Row from the Potteries Centre to the new Shopping centre by means of a glass roof providing sheltered shopping for nearly 50% of Hanley.
The Potteries Centre have purchase the now closed nightclub Jaxx and are looking into extending it northwards.The multi storey car park already has its foundations in place for any levels required.
Also in Hanley on the nortern side of the proposed completion of the ring road they have just passed planning permission for a hotel and casino.
Certainly hope Tesco don't grab hold of that site, it'd be a disaster for the regeneration stakes. As for a new shopping centre and bus station, I give them my full support, currently that site is really depressing and seems to attract thuggish youths. The airport style bus station sounds interesting, certainly hope it's nice and bright and not dark and dingy like the current one. As for these glass walkways on parliament row, that sounds a little ambitious and far fetched. First and foremost what they need to do is remove the many examples of bad architecture in Hanley, then they can progress. I think entire rebuiling of streets, like parliament row, in stylish boulevard like developments is the way forward, which could also create a greater sense of unity among the buildings, and not just the cheap red brick option.

I have seen the extension plans, although very little information is given on it's design, just the outline:

http://www.capital-shopping-centres....elopments.html

Certainly don't think the Potteries Shopping Centre is anything to shout about when it comes to architecture, but it is a fairly large one and quite useful to have.

By the way, do you know of any websites where I could access some of the designs or where you got some of the information shown here from?

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note how even a blank sign has to be chanined to a lamp post (no offence to the good people of Stoke).
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Old November 7th, 2006, 01:08 AM   #5
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I hope Stoke gets the regeneration, it needs it. Had a friend who went to uni there and I visited a few times, but didn't really strike me as somewhere I would want to stay. I don't think the multi-centre thing helps it at all, and Hanley seemed to be full of places that seemed a good idea in the sixties.
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Old November 8th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #6
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Studied in Alsager for a while before transferring to Manchester. Hanley was the best night out in Staffordshire/South Cheshire IMO. People are fantastic with a top accent, and the Sugarmill is ace.

Unfortunately I think you are right architecture wise - nothing that memorable at all. Maybe a period of sixties carbuncle termination is in order (a la Coventry) before we see the buildings and infrastructure that you Stokies deserve.
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Old November 9th, 2006, 12:56 AM   #7
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Quite a lot in the pipeline for the stoke/newcastle area. I have worked on a few projects as a structural engineer. Mainly residential up to 8 storeys.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:28 AM   #8
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Look for the regeneration body Renew North Staffordshire. Plenty going on in Hanley, Middleport/Burslem, Meir and Knutton & Cross Heath. I worked on it for a while, interesting stuff. The Hanley area is apparently being redeveloped by Countryside Properties, who have won plenty of awards for other projects, although whether they'll pull out all of the stops in this area remains to be seen.

Have to say though I'm afraid I personally found that the vast majority of Stoke could do with "starting again"...
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Old December 16th, 2006, 12:01 AM   #9
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can i suggest knocking all of stoke down as a good start..reminds me a lot of middlesbrough..urghhhhh!
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Old January 5th, 2007, 01:01 AM   #10
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Just found this PDf file on the future of Hanley.
It was written in 2005 and was suppose to start in 2006 but as per usual the council seem to be dragging their feet.
Good read though.
http://www.instaffs.co.uk/documents/...MasterPlan.pdf
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 03:14 AM   #11
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Had a look at your development master plan there... Good read. I hope Stoke does see significant redevelopment in the future, why the hell not? Good luck Stoke
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Purely Out of interest -

With regards to 'Hanley' and 'Newcastle-U-L'', and the area being 'the potteries', what, or perhaps 'where' exactly is Stoke? Is it the entire built up area? Or is just another name for what is officially Hanley?
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Old January 28th, 2007, 03:33 PM   #13
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Purely Out of interest -

With regards to 'Hanley' and 'Newcastle-U-L'', and the area being 'the potteries', what, or perhaps 'where' exactly is Stoke? Is it the entire built up area? Or is just another name for what is officially Hanley?
The City of Stoke-on-Trent is made up of 6 formerly seperate towns: Hanley, Burslem, Longton, Tunstall, Fenton and Stoke-UPON-Trent. Hanley is just the main commercial area of the city and is not interchangable with Stoke or Stoke-Upon-Trent. Stoke-Upon-Trent is probably the more historical of the towns, it's home to the University, Britannia Stadium and the main railway station. Newcastle-Under-Lyme is not part of the city as it is a seperate borough, but it is part of the urban and metropolitan areas of the the Potteries, as well as Stoke-on-Trent and Kidsgrove. The entire built-up area is simply known as the Potteries.
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Old February 12th, 2007, 12:23 AM   #14
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Heres a couple of developments going on at the moment:

Houses and flats at Waterside



Lock 38 in Shelton


opposite this site its just been announced that the old Twyfords building alongside the canal(120,000 sq ft) is to be turned into apartments,shops and 2 office towers by Modus Properties,will post artist impression as soon as its released.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 12:44 AM   #15
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Just found this:

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...entPK=17288867


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£100M VISION OF CITY'S FUTURE
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DAVID JOHNSON

09:40 - 11 May 2007

Multi-million pound plans to transform the city centre have been revealed for the first time today.

Iconic five-storey high transparent bottle kiln structures, transformed public squares, shared spaces for cars and pedestrians, spectacular lighting and an amphitheatre are all part of the £100 million plans to put Stoke-on-Trent on the national and international map.

The designs are by internationally-renowned architects and designers Glenn Howells as part of its winning bid to help kick-start Stoke-on-Trent's economy by drawing in visitors from across the country.

And they are to be officially unveiled by the Princess Royal during a visit to the city today.

Work will start within months - although the exact designs could change following public consultation - and the whole project is due to be finished by the end of 2010.

Mark Meredith, elected mayor of Stoke-on-Trent, said: "Second best is not good enough. We will create a place that every resident of North Staffordshire can be proud of so they tell their family and their friends to come and look at our special city centre."

The designs feature water jets and a huge fountain in Fountain Square, and a Green Mile running through the city, connecting Central Forest Park with Hanley Park.

Councillor Roger Ibbs, who is Stoke-on-Trent born and bred and has been a councillor for more than 20 years, sat on the panel which chose the winning design.

He said: "I am very, very excited.

"In my lifetime we will get one chance to really change things in Stoke-on-Trent. This is that time and we are going to do it properly."

The city council is putting up more than half of the £20 million of public money being ploughed into Hanley's transformation.

The balance is coming from Government agency English Partnerships, and experts hope private sector investment will bring the amount invested to more than £100 million.

Sounds alright, not sure where you can go to see the detailed plans though. They've got Glen Howells on board so that's not so bad, they've just recently designed a 37 storey scraper up in Bradford where I go to Uni which looks class, also the ones behind Snow Hill in Birmingham. Wish there was something a bit more inspirational than 5 storeys though, we could really do with a modern replacement of Unity House to punctuate the skyline. It seems we weren't afraid of building tall before, why not again? At the moment the city has that lilliputian nature of architecture about it, mostly everything's very low rise. The glass pot banks sound like an interesting idea to include Stoke's industrial past in it's future, though whether it'll actually look good is another thing, certainly interesting and different though. Just hope the first thing they pile a bulldozer through is the bus station, absolutely horrible thing.
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Hopefully with this development and the City Waterside development surrounding the bus station area then it will have a knock on effect and will speed up the powers that be into a decision.
The main reason for the non start on the new bus station and shopping centre is they are waiting for a major department store to come on board but with the City Waterside development coming along at pace and bringing better housing and apartments and inevitably more money to the locality it might just kick start a dept store into a decision.


Hers some pics of the City Centre Vision that they are originally calling UrbanVision:






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Sounds quite good, is there any larger renders?
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Its still in its infancy stage ans the fina; designs are subject to change so no better renders at the moment im afraid.
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New regeneration project unveiled including 17 storey tower on Lichfield Street, Hanley:


City Slipway














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235 'HOMES OF THE FUTURE' SET FOR CITY

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09:40 - 22 January 2008

Radical designs have been unveiled which could see residents living in a 17-storey tower block, or the 21st-century version of terrace housing.

The scheme, drawn up by London-based architects RCKa, has been unveiled as the winning entry in Europan9 - the world's largest housing and urban design competition for young architects.

Now regeneration leaders will meet RCKa with a view to transforming a 5.7-acre clearance area off Lichfield Street in Hanley "over the next few years".

The plans, called City Slipway, include a central walkway running from the top of the site to a new basin on the Caldon Canal at the bottom.

Cars and pedestrians would have equal right of way in the terrace "homezones", and there would be activity areas at the end of each residential street for play, market stalls or public performance. In all, 235 apartments, town houses and family-sized homes would be built.

Stoke-on-Trent City Council and Government regenerationx agency Renew North Staffordshire believe the eye-catching project will help attract new residents, and keep younger, better-paid locals in the city.

Hardial Bhogal, director of Renew, pictured below, said: "Taking part in Europan9 has put Stoke-on-Trent on the map by demonstrating the importance we place on quality design and good architecture that will attract people back to live in central parts of the city.

"The young architects' enthusiasm for innovative solutions to city centre living, while paying the greatest respect to the heritage of the area, is reflected in an amazing vision."

Councillor Mervin Smith, Stoke-on-Trent City Council's portfolio holder for regeneration, said: "Taking part in Europan has meant that some of the best young architects in Europe have brought innovative and cutting-edge ideas for a major gateway to Stoke-on-Trent city centre."

Europan is promoted in England by the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment, a Government advisory body.

The competition aims to encourage cities and developers to find imaginative architectural solutions to transform urban locations, and the Lichfield Street spot was one of 73 sites chosen across 22 countries.

The site is in the middle of the new City Waterside neighbourhood, where about 2,400 new homes are planned over the coming 10 to 15 years, and it is set on a south-facing hil.

RCKa spokesman, Tim Riley, said: "RCKa are delighted to have been selected to help realise this exciting project, and look forward to working alongside the development team.

"At the heart of our scheme is a new public route that unlocks the potential of the canal, and the housing proposals are a modern interpretation of the traditional terrace housing that graced the area for many years.

"By ensuring new homes are designed to take advantage of the many positive aspects of the site and suit the needs of modern families, we hope to create a great place to live.

"We look forward to developing our ideas with our new partners, and building upon Stoke-on-Trent's important heritage for the future."

What do you think of the revolutionary plans for housing?
http://www.thisisthesentinel.co.uk/d...pNodeId=244935


Here's two of the other designs that lost out:


Urban Village




Tea Set




http://www.europan.org.uk/europan9/stoke/commended/


Strange given these large in part look quite a bit better than the winner of the competition, except maybe for the absence of a tower.


The site as it currently stands:




Personally think more of the terraced housing in Stoke should be done-up and reused for the low rise structures. Their replacements look pretty dire and appear made of steel sheeting as far as I can make out. The design of the tower looks alright, sort of like a modern looking mobile phone, and could act as a good gateway. Pity it's a gate to open up to very little of any worth architecture wise.


http://www.rcka.co.uk/flash.php?page=&gclid=
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Old February 8th, 2008, 01:18 AM   #20
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Thanks for the update Daniel.
I now live down in London and dont get to see Stoke nearly half as much as i would like or should do for that matter.
saw these plans last week and i quite like them.
Im assuming the new terraced houses are made up of wood pannelling rather than metal sheets. Difficult to tell with the black and white imaging.
Finding it impossible to find any decent pics on internet of the developments which were either in the pipeline or had started when i moved down here in July like Lock38, the ring road area and city waterside from Leek Rd upwards.
How is the Urbansplash development within CityWaterside coming along.


Cheers anyway Daniel....exStokey33
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