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Old September 4th, 2016, 05:32 PM   #441
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While Asians learned industrial and scientific production from the West....Africans are stuck in useless religions and traditions.

The Southern Nigerian who started and initiated the auto industry called INNOSON or some like that and the Ghanian that has started the Konte auto or something do not even get support from their fellow countrymen, let alone other Africans....this continent is really doomed to poverty and backwardness.
You can your traditions and cultures and be technologically savvy at the same time.Actuallly,that is what all Asians(chineses,japaneses,indians,koreans...) are doing.And there aren't so much differences between Asian traditional cultures and African ones.Before being technological superpowers,asian countries are first and foremost cultural and spiritual superpowers!




These guys you see in this video aint you ordinary dumbass *****The amount of knowledge they have and what they can do with their minds and body defy science.A lot of them hold phds in maths,physics,computer science......or were successful businessmen.But they gave away all that to live the life of a sadhu(holy man).And they are sacred in india.
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Asians are something else:Quiet,efficient!
Qu'est ce que le développement? On a pas besoin d'importer le savoir des autres

La ferme Songhai (Benin)

Combien de chefs d'Etats se sont précipités là bas? Et pourtant un excellent modèle de développement à moindre coûts!





Il y a de l'innovation en Afrique, on a intérêt à s'unir et à rester uni!! Les gens n'en parlent pas, l'Ouganda nous doit de l'argent, pourquoi le Congo ne négocierait pas en obtenant des compensation en nature au lieu d'aller acheter les bus en Chine?

Ouganda premier bus solaire africain



Au niveau de l'habitat, on doit valoriser les matériaux traditionnels mais qu'est ce qu'on entend?



Si on combine le projet Songhai & habitat >>> la pauvreté reculera
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Old September 4th, 2016, 07:06 PM   #443
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You can your traditions and cultures and be technologically savvy at the same time.Actuallly,that is what all Asians(chineses,japaneses,indians,koreans...) are doing.And there aren't so much differences between Asian traditional cultures and African ones.Before being technological superpowers,asian countries are first and foremost cultural and spiritual superpowers!
).And they are sacred in india.
East Asia are in a league of their own or par with North America and Western Europe.

India is a real country, unlike African countries, ...I also respect India for the facts that it easily agreed to let Pakistan, Bangladesh go their own ways...again, unlike Africans who like to sticking to things that do not work or function.

You are right there are lots of similaritie between India and Africa, India is a bit too traditional for it own good...It cultural socio caste system is horrible, its one of the reasons why its still behind it fellow giant China, China is far ahead.


Africans have very serious issues, ....Really the only traditions they need to comeback to are keep their cultural names, use their local languages and create real countries if they really ever want to progress.
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Qu'est ce que le développement? On a pas besoin d'importer le savoir des autres

La ferme Songhai (Benin)

Combien de chefs d'Etats se sont précipités là bas? Et pourtant un excellent modèle de développement à moindre coûts!





Il y a de l'innovation en Afrique, on a intérêt à s'unir et à rester uni!! Les gens n'en parlent pas, l'Ouganda nous doit de l'argent, pourquoi le Congo ne négocierait pas en obtenant des compensation en nature au lieu d'aller acheter les bus en Chine?

Ouganda premier bus solaire africain



Au niveau de l'habitat, on doit valoriser les matériaux traditionnels mais qu'est ce qu'on entend?



Si on combine le projet Songhai & habitat >>> la pauvreté reculera


Very emcpuraging!!! and I like that innovative farmer, now that is a real Pan African! and a real intellectual!!!

I love those busses as well, how innovative!!!

Exactly, Congolese and other Africans should go buy those busses...they'd boost that entrepreneur.
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Un autre exemple est le professeur Michel Babadjide du Bénin, il a été marginalisé mais il a persévéré et aujourd'hui il est reconnu dans son pays! On doit pas avoir peur de se remettre en question...

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Old September 5th, 2016, 12:00 AM   #446
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While Asians learned industrial and scientific production from the West....Africans are stuck in useless religions and traditions.

The Southern Nigerian who started and initiated the auto industry called INNOSON or some like that and the Ghanian that has started the Konte auto or something do not even get support from their fellow countrymen, let alone other Africans....this continent is really doomed to poverty and backwardness.


It has to do with high costs and pride . African-designed and made vehicles cost more than the foreign produced vehicles at this time....until there is mass production which must come as a result of a deal between African countries....

Furthermore, national pride prevent a Kenyan-made vehicle for example to be sold in other African countries...
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It has to do with high costs and pride . African-designed and made vehicles cost more than the foreign produced vehicles at this time....until there is mass production which must come as a result of a deal between African countries....

Furthermore, national pride prevent a Kenyan-made vehicle for example to be sold in other African countries...
You are correct, there is no "Patriotism".


Cost is not the problem..IMO
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You are correct, there is no "Patriotism".


Cost is not the problem..IMO

Yep, cost is also a problem....since those African-made vehicles are practically hand made....almost like a Ferrari...and you must know how much hand-made vehicles like Ferrari cost....
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Yep, cost is also a problem....since those African-made vehicles are practically hand made....almost like a Ferrari...and you must know how much hand-made vehicles like Ferrari cost....
Ferrarris, are exceptional because they are designed and built to be "Luxuries"......Ferrarris engines themselves are extremely expensive because they are very powerful.....UnlikeNissans , Toyotas, WV etc...which are basic engines, very basic.....BTW, Ferraris use a high quality epecial fuels and Oils..
Busses, Trucks, Tractors are hand made anyws since they are not needed in massive numbers like passanger cars.

ly dacdes of ge industry.


Auto industries depend on subsidies anyways, especially iin it early d decades before they get well establish themselve.......Just like agriculture from small and medium to large commercial sizes. even the.

In 2008 cris, Ford, GM, Crysler etc all got massive amount from Federal govt bailouts...most of that money will never be repaid.


In countries like Cingo, Kenya, Nigeria etc which are still agrerian economies, you do not need a vast number of cars like US and Japan produces, keep the industries save like France, Sweden, UK, Italy, mostly for local and regional consumption.
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BTW; Most cars in Africa are second hand cares,
Just a very tiny minority buy brand new cars with exception of SA which has credit system like US.
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Les questions sur l'éducation, la faim, l'emploi et l'habit n'ont pas encore trouvé de solutions et ont veut que les gens consomment et à crédit en plus? Vraiment...
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En soit,l`ideal panafricain est un ideal noble,apres tout,il nya pas un seul etat africain qui toutes les masses critiques necessaires pour etre competitif sur la scene mondialeans leurs etats actuels,les etats africains ne font que gerer le quotidien.Le real test will come when these states will try to transition from raw materials based economies to manufacturing economies.La les gens vont commencer a comprendre ce que c`est que les economies d`echelle!
Mais je pense que le panafricanisme doit etre defini en termes plus realistes.Les hommes etant ce qu`ils sont,il faut compter avec leur selfishness,greed for power,......La metaphore de la tour de babel me vient a l`esprit!
My old man me disait que la colonisation francaises9+
avait cree 2 federations en afrique noire:La federation de l`afrique de l`ouest avec pour capitale Dakar et la federation de l`afrique centrale avec pour capitale Brazzaville.Ces federations fonctionnaient tres bien a l`epoque colonial,mais lesquesl ont detruit ces federations?Les africains!Chaque petit negre venu de paris avec son petit diplome a deux sous,voulait son petit territoire a lui-meme afin d`etre "chef d'état" et jouir des comme les blancs.Des gens comme Houphouet-Boigny,senghor,etc.....sont parmi les plus grands fossoyeurs de l`afrique.Un etat federal ne sera possible que si c`est etat initie de la base par les peuples et non cree par les politiciens.Laisses a eux-memes les peuples trouvent toujours le moyen de vivre ensemble sans problemes.Mais que vienne un politician assoiffe de pouvoir,la zizanie commence!
D`autre part quand on parle de Federer l`afrique,de quelle afrique parle-t-on?Les arabes ne se sont jamais consideres africains et de toutes les facons cela ne fait meme sens dans une affaire des noirs.A choisir entre l`occident et l`afrique,les arabes vont toujours choisir l`occident coz leurs phenotypes sont voisins.
Il y`a aussi le problem des etats-tampons comme l`ethiopie,la somalie,l`erithrea,djibouti...Il est difficile de miser sur leur commitment a 100% si l`on considere que ces etats ont toujours trouve plus d`affinites avec les arabes et les occidentaux qu`avec les africains.Et je n`ai jamais pourquoi le siege de l`union africaine est en ethiopie si l`on considere que ce pays a toujours ete inconfortable avec son africanite.

Le problem de la langue:On sait qu`il ya un grand divide linguistique en afrique qui freine l`integration des peuples africains:Le divide Anglophones-francophones!
Un etat panafricain ne sera viable que s`il est base sur un medium linguistique africain commun.Il serait insense d`utiliser une langue etrangere comme langue de l`etat federal africain.It will negate the purpose of this state which Is to free Africans from cultural slavery!Quelle langue pour l`etat africain?Le Swahili?

La religion:Tous ceux qui prient ensemble restent ensemble!
On sait que ,plus que autre chose,la religion est le plus grand facteur de division entre les peuples.Et en afrique aujourdhui,nous avons une croissance exponentielle des religions semitiques importees(islam,christianisme,judaism,.....).Depuis que ces religions sont presentes en afrique,elles n`ont rien apporte de bien sauf des conflicts,destructions,morts.Quelle sera la place de ces religions au sein d`un etat federal africain?Faudra-t-il les bannir?Et que proposer a la place ,puisque les humains ne vivent pas que de pain et d`eau?
What do you meant by what is in blue? Could you please enlighten me?
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Un etat panafricain ne sera viable que s`il est base sur un medium linguistique africain commun.Il serait insense d`utiliser une langue etrangere comme langue de l`etat federal africain.It will negate the purpose of this state which Is to free Africans from cultural slavery!


Quelle langue pour l`etat africain?Le Swahili?

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Just a question. ......Football is an imported sport introduced during colonialism. ....But today Africans are crazy about football

Does this also constitute cultural slavery..?...Just for our reflection. ..
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We are not talking about credit.
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We are not talking about credit.
Je fais un parallèle. On ne prête qu'aux "riches" dans le monde capitaliste. C'est pour vous renvoyer à l'image que seuls les besoins et services dont on a besoin sont prioritaires.
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Just a question. ......Football is an imported sport introduced during colonialism. ....But today Africans are crazy about football

Does this also constitute cultural slavery..?...Just for our reflection. ..
L'éducation, l'économie et ses conséquences sont elles plus importantes sur la vie d'un humain que le football?
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L'éducation, l'économie et ses conséquences sont elles plus importantes sur la vie d'un humain que le football?
Let's stay on topic......the question was specifically about football.......economy and education are different topics. ...
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Just a question. ......Football is an imported sport introduced during colonialism. ....But today Africans are crazy about football

Does this also constitute cultural slavery..?...Just for our reflection. ..
I never said we have to close our borders and ourselves to anything coming from outside.although japan did for centuries with the success we all know.Football ball is a technique like computer science,mathematics......we cant afford -even for security reasons-to cut ourselves completely from the outside world.It would be careless and suicidal!
When the portugueses came to the kongo kingdom,they had guns and these guns gave them the upper hand.And what kongo kings did?They sent their kids to Portugal ,not so spy on portugueses and steal the technology,but to become priests.The same thing happens with our ambassadors today:They are just in ngandas in paris or bruxelles eating ntaba na kwanga and entertaining big mamas on top of spying on their kinsmen.What is their inputs to our national well-being?
But when whites go to somewhere,they collect anything possible and take it back home.You see whites going to spend years with pygmees in the deep equatorial forest when we look with contempt on the same pygmees,not knowing these same pygmees have an amazing knowledge of the forest,the plants and their medical values.
That is to say,we have to be proactive in our quest for knowledge and very cunny in our relations with others.But we have to be like jews:Be ourselves with our own culture and spiritualite and conquering the world in the same time.We don't have to lose ourselves to conquer the world!
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Qu'est ce que le développement? On a pas besoin d'importer le savoir des autres

La ferme Songhai (Benin)

Combien de chefs d'Etats se sont précipités là bas? Et pourtant un excellent modèle de développement à moindre coûts!





Il y a de l'innovation en Afrique, on a intérêt à s'unir et à rester uni!! Les gens n'en parlent pas, l'Ouganda nous doit de l'argent, pourquoi le Congo ne négocierait pas en obtenant des compensation en nature au lieu d'aller acheter les bus en Chine?

Ouganda premier bus solaire africain



Au niveau de l'habitat, on doit valoriser les matériaux traditionnels mais qu'est ce qu'on entend?



Si on combine le projet Songhai & habitat >>> la pauvreté reculera
J`aime bien ces maisons traditionnelles.C`est vraiment mon type d`habitation!I cant stand big concrete dwellings and sight of hlms always make me very depressed.
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Let's stay on topic......the question was specifically about football.......economy and education are different topics. ...
Alors pourquoi avoir emmené le foot? Tu voulais faire de l'humour? Je te retournes dans le sujet.
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