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Old October 19th, 2015, 12:15 PM   #1
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The National College for High Speed Rail | Venture Way | Birmingham Science Park | 3fl | Comp.

Client: HS2
Contractor: Willmott Dixon
Cost: £26m



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Background

The National College for High Speed Rail (NCHSR) will support the high
speed rail industry generally, but have a specific role in ensuring the
skills requirements of HS2 are met. It will act as a centre for excellence
leading the development of broader curriculum requirements and linking
with other providers to ensure connectivity both in terms of sharing
intelligence and flow of learners.

The College will operate from two sites; Birmingham and Doncaster, as
announced in September 2014 and the College headquarters will be
housed within the Birmingham building.

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Project Proposals

The project comprises the demolition of an individual building on the
Venture Way site, including an adjacent area of hard standing, currently
used for car parking, and the construction of a new 5,703 m2 College building that will also serve as the operational headquarters of the
College.

The building will be constructed over three storeys and
accommodate up to 700 students and NCHSR managerial and
administrative staff and will include a workshop and learning spaces
reflecting the curriculum emphasis on digital technologies at the
Birmingham building. The building will exploit the opportunities offered
by the canal side location to create attractive external social space and
the access and visibility afforded from the adjacent to Dartmouth
Middleway within an established education and science cluster
(including Aston University and Birmingham Science Park).
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Procurement

The contractor for the construction of the College building in
Birmingham is being procured through the Constructing West Midlands
(CWM) Framework operated by ACIVICO on behalf of Birmingham City
Council.

Following a mini competition Willmott Dixon Construction were selected
as the preferred contractor in July 2015 and took responsibility for
progressing the design on the 14th August 2015 from the end of RIBA
Stage 2.

RIBA Stage 3 design is underway and is scheduled to complete by 6th
November at which point a planning application will be submitted.
The site clearance and demolition of the building is being progressed as
an advanced works package through Willmott Dixon and is currently out
to tender.

Equipment within the scope of the capital application to BIS will be
procured via Willmott Dixon Construction via the CWM Framework.
A decision will be made by the College Board in due course on how
additional equipment to be provided via the Employers’ Leadership
Pledge and HS2 supply chain partners should be procured
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Consultation

A public consultation event is planned in October 2015 prior to
submission of the Planning Application. Consultation has taken place
with various rail industry employer organisations through a series of
employer engagement sessions facilitated by HS2 Ltd during the brief
development phase of the project. Aston University; Birmingham
Science Park and Canals & Rivers Trust have all been consulted as
neighbouring interests and/or key stakeholders.
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A plan, at last! Good catch, Birmingham!
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Old October 19th, 2015, 02:01 PM   #3
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What will they teach & what will this railway demand from it's employee's what other railway companys in the UK don't?
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What will they teach & what will this railway demand from it's employee's what other railway companys in the UK don't?
How to go 250mph instead of 125?
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Old October 19th, 2015, 02:16 PM   #5
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Where is this situated in Birmingham for the non brummies amongst us ?
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Old October 19th, 2015, 02:19 PM   #6
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Aston Science park bordering the ring road, not impressed location wise. Could have been encorporated into the Eastside plans.
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Where is this situated in Birmingham for the non brummies amongst us ?
Bit in the middle of nowhere although plenty of development planned.



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This is too small in height to be at Eastside and anyway, it`ll only be a ten minute walk from the college to Curzon St.

Let`s hope it`s an attractive building because there`ll be so much passing traffic. Along with the UNITE H/O, it`ll be a big coup for the Science Park and could help it to become a genuine part of the city centre.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 08:49 PM   #10
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Has Brum been short-changed again?
Our college is smaller than Doncaster's college yet will also house the management of both centres.
Birmingham - 5,703 sq m. Doncaster - 7,200 sq m.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 09:22 PM   #11
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Great public transport links...
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Old October 19th, 2015, 09:38 PM   #12
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I'm sure you know Harborne, Curzon street station extends up to between Moor street and La Tour hotel.
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I'm sure you know Harborne, Curzon street station extends up to between Moor street and La Tour hotel.
My map is indicative, the footprint is huge. But you're right, of course.

Birmingham has done very well out of the HS2 infrastructure dish-out, but I still don't understand Doncaster being picked for half of the college. All I can think of is that they wanted to future-proof the spur to Leeds to make sure it happens.

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I didn't think it was supposed to be exact. But there are some particularly among the no to hs2 brigade that believe it terminates at the old Curzon Street Station.
Which then allows them to make all sorts of statements about it taking 15 minutes to walk to Birmingham New Street etc. when the reality is it will probably take 5 mins at most.
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Birmingham has done very well out of the HS2 infrastructure dish-out, but I still don't understand Doncaster being picked for half of the college. All I can think of is that they wanted to future-proof the spur to Leeds to make sure it happens.
My guess is the Doncaster college is a token gesture, there would have been a lot of competition between cities on the route. Recently on the west side of phase 2 Stoke and Crewe were competing for a station.

Following this logic politically it would have been easier, though less sensible to give Coventry a college for the same reasons.
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My map is indicative, the footprint is huge. But you're right, of course.

Birmingham has done very well out of the HS2 infrastructure dish-out, but I still don't understand Doncaster being picked for half of the college. All I can think of is that they wanted to future-proof the spur to Leeds to make sure it happens.
Watch the news clip below and find out why or how Birmingham and Doncaster won the bid:


National College for HS2 to be based in Birmingham


Consortium of colleges from Greater Birmingham bid for HS2 Training Centre
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There is an historical precedent for choosing Duddeston district for the College.
Prior to the London to Birmingham line a journey was made in July 1837 from Liverpool to Birmingham-the intended terminus in Curzon Street and the viaduct approaching it still unfinished-to a temporary terminus at Vauxhall (Birmingham's first 'railway station' taking its name from the nearby pleasure park).
By 1839 the line into the intended terminus at Curzon Street had been finished,and Vauxhall was abandoned as a passenger station.
Duddeston station,on the line to Walsall,now stands on the site.

Above paraphrased from the late Chris Upton's exemplary History of Birmingham, Chapter Fourteeen.
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How to go 250mph instead of 125?
So that's £37143 per student to learn at a cost of £149.00 per extra mile per hour
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So that's £37143 per student to learn at a cost of £149.00 per extra mile per hour
You laugh, but that's cheap in engineering terms. As speed increases so does the relative density of the air, so every mph has to be fought for using clever technological innovations.
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What I do enjoy is the figures. Birmingham has to put more money (% wise) into establishing the HS2 college than Manchester does in creating a threatre at 4 times the cost.

Can you imagine Brum being handed £78m to build a performance venue.
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