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Old January 15th, 2008, 10:43 PM   #21
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1872m between the 2 dilatation parts.
OMG. Now I see Qtya's point.
So it seems we will have a very tight competition here
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OMG. Now I see Qtya's point.
So it seems we will have a very tight competition here
Indeed. It was said(when it was built) that this is the longest in EE and the region,but then
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...5&postcount=20
-a croatian viaduct is 2485m long.
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Old January 15th, 2008, 10:51 PM   #23
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You win ... ours is on the paper. Yours is in ... ZA picture
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Interesting how everyone wants to be in the Eastern Europe all of a sudden. We like to say in Ljubljana we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans. Sounds cool... and would be true if Ljubljana were in the Balkans... but it isn't.

Big project btw!

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Old January 15th, 2008, 10:59 PM   #25
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Who am I to argue with the "west"...Wien is west,Prague is east...
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Old January 15th, 2008, 10:59 PM   #26
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Interesting how everyone wants to be in the Eastern Europe all of a sudden. We like to say in Ljubljana we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans. Sounds cool... and would be true if Ljubljana was in the Balkans... but it isn't.

Big project btw!


Good point ... it seems CE is EE today
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Old January 15th, 2008, 11:11 PM   #27
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the next thing we hear...
in Switzerland they build the longest...(something) in EE..
its EE charm , it is irresistible!
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Old January 15th, 2008, 11:17 PM   #28
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I mean, it's so much more obvious considering we don't like to be considered Balkan... cause some people still consider us Balkan, regardless of geography, and when that particular skyscraper was built (in 1933), we were in Yugoslavia, a country that was almost entirely Balkan. So saying Ljubljana is in the Balkans, we get our hair risen, but saying we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans, is perfectly fine, actually encouraged. I'm seriously surprised the Wikipedia article says it was the highest in Yugoslavia, I really expected the word "Balkans", we always say that. Ok, enough OT.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 05:04 PM   #29
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OMG. Now I see Qtya's point.
So it seems we will have a very tight competition here
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Interesting how everyone wants to be in the Eastern Europe all of a sudden. We like to say in Ljubljana we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans. Sounds cool... and would be true if Ljubljana were in the Balkans... but it isn't.
Hmm... Who said anything about EE, CE, WE?

RawLee and I were only comparing the two viaducts...

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Nebunul's post says it will be the longest viaduct in EE, and you replied you have a longer one in Hungary, so Hungary = EE by you.
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Nebunul's post says it will be the longest viaduct in EE, and you replied you have a longer one in Hungary, so Hungary = EE by you.
Does it really matter who has the longest? Nothing can beat the one at Millau,so it is pointless to compare ours. It will certainly be the longest in Romania(for now),and I doubt there is/will be a longer one on the left side of the Danube in the near future.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 08:44 PM   #33
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Nebunul's post says it will be the longest viaduct in EE, and you replied you have a longer one in Hungary, so Hungary = EE by you.
It was just an effort for a simple, plane old RO-HU rivalry... NO EE, NO CE, NO WE, just US! (Not the States of course... )
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it's all about dick measuring here, Verso nothing more
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it's all about dick measuring here, Verso nothing more
And always will be...
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Is a section of this motorway already finished? Where will be the longest and tallest bridge and the longest tunnel of this motorway?
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Is a section of this motorway already finished? Where will be the longest and tallest bridge and the longest tunnel of this motorway?
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The official also mentioned that the Suplacu de Barcau-Bors section of Autostrada Transilvania is to be finished in 2009, together with the viaduct. According to the official, Bechtel works on this section are progressing at the pace established with the authorities.


Asphalt works on Transilvania motorway will start this summer
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Bechtel representatives presented yesterday to journalists of Cluj details related to the status of works on Autostrada Transilvania and promised that this summer asphalt casting works will start as well
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The sub-section Câmpia Turzii - Gilău of the Transilvania motorway might become functional starting with 2008
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Section 2 Targu Mures (Ogra) - Cluj 90 km
Section 2A Ogra (Targu Mures) - Campia Turzii
Section 2B Campia Turzii - Cluj Vest (Gilau)


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More money for Bechtel
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The amount allotted this year by the Ministry of Transport for works at Autostrada Transilvania is EUR 520 million- about three times more than in 2007.

Autostrada Transilvania works are advacing at a fast pace. Representatives of American company Bechtel required an amount 2.5 times larger than the Ministry of Transport allotted last year- reaching EUR 480 million. Taking into consideration the pace of works in 2007, the Transport Ministry considered it necessary to grant the company a larger amount than requested, so the total amout allotted for 2008 went up to approximately EUR 520 million. In August and Septembera 2007, the pace of Autostrada Transilvania expenditures exceeded 1 million EU every day. “Bechtel initially demanded EUR 480 million, but we are going to allot a budget of about EUR 520 million for this year”, declared Dorin Debucean, deputy general manager of the National Romanian Company of Motorways and National. Last year Transport Ministry granted Bechtel EUR 185 million for the works performed.

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This year the authorities allotted larger funds for Autostrada Transilvania, as two motorway sections, namely Campia Turzii – Gilau (52 kilometers) and Suplacu de Barcau – Bors (64 kilometers), are to be finished in 2008. The motorway, due for commissioning in 2012, will be 415 kilometers in length, with more than 55 km of bridges and viaducts, 94 passageways, 58 overpasses, and 16 interchanges. Moreover, this very same year works are bound to start on two other motorway sections: Mihailesti – Suplacu de Barcau and Gilau – Mihaileati. “This March works will start on section 3B, between Mihailesti and Suplacu de Barcau (76 kilometers)- which is the third tronson undergoing works. The Consultant began field works in December, the feasibility study has been revised and the technical design is currently under revision, so that Bechtel may start works in March”, explained Dorin Debucean. The Mihailesti – Suplacu de Barcau will cost EUR 489 million and is to be commissioned on December 31st 2011, while works on section 3A, Gilau-Mihailesti, will cost EUR 149 milion and are to be finalized by December 31st 2011. “Search Corporation is to revise the feasibility study, so the works may be started in September 2008”, said Dorin Debucean.

Costs
Construction costs for Autostrada Transilvania may double from EUR 2.2 billion to over 4 billion, because construction materials and land are being acquired at other prices than previously estimated. Moreover, the original feasibility study did not include viaducts and other expensive construction elements. There are also several clauses in the contract with American company Bechtel that will affect final costs. “A doubling of the costs is possible. What is certain is that the design will be more expensive, because the feasibility study did not provide for several costs. For example, the 3km viaduct between Suplacu de Barcau and Bors, which will cost EUR 60 million, was not provided in the study”, declared Mihai Grecu, General Manager of the Company of Motorways. The 415 km of motorway are scheduled for completion in 2012.


They're pushing again for the initial deadline 2012. I suppose Nokia, Mercedes and other investors have put pressure on government
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